Enlist Pakistan as state sponsor of terrorism: US Congress committee

[A.M.]

I guess you work for free then?

In that sense, an employee (Pakistan) should not criticize its employer (USA).

 

[khanz]

I have a feeling things will actually improve -U.S just did Pakistan a huge favour and took out another one of our enemies who will be joining Baitullah Mehsud in Hell. The Americans kept silent on the spanking of the afghan army and border gate installation too.Yes we are poor and have many problems and far behind in development-Things have taken a major turn for the better. Afghans must be fuming their plans to destabilize are going down the drain so they are venting their frustration. I admit they were probably closest they'd ever been in 2007-2010 when we experienced nearly daily bomb blasts and TTP rule in swat but it's 2016 now their dreams are shattered. We still unfortunately have some attacks here and there but they are generally rare and isolated for the most part . The improvement in Pakistan's security and stability is massive.

 

[sady]

if pakistani awam is so frustrated then why don't the GoP take a firm stand. who is stopping you to say BIG NO to US.
on one hand you don't need assistance from US and ends up saying you gonna milk US. first be firm with your stance.

International politics isn't two middle aged women calling the relationship quits.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

INP


WASHINGTON: Top US lawmakers on Tuesday called for cutting financial aid and imposing sanctions against Pakistan while prominent think tanks said it is time to consider putting Pakistan on the list of state sponsor of terrorism.

"Patience (on Pakistan) is growing very thin," Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee said.


Just cutting off the funding is not going to be enough, he said and sought for additional measures.

"Those who suggest giving aid to Pakistan need to give justification for using the tax payer’s money," Congressman Brad Sherman, Ranking member of the subcommittee joined Salmon and other lawmakers for actions against Pakistan.

Congressman William Keating, Pro India member of the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Non-Proliferation and Trade argued that there is little reason to believe that Pakistan is going to change its policies of using terrorism as a tool to meet its strategic needs.

Two of the top al Qaeda leaders have been killed in Pakistan, he said.

Keating that the US arms supply to Pakistan is unlikely to help it in the fight against terrorism, but would arm it to be used against India.

Meanwhile, former top diplomats and think tanks said it is time that US consider putting Pakistan on the list of state sponsor of terrorism.

American lawmakers and experts said Pakistan has been treating the US like chumps.

"They are making chumps out of us. They see us we are being so stupid. It seems like paying the mafia," said Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific subcommittee of House Foreign Affairs Committee. "If I may use an undiplomatic term. We have been patsies," former Bush era top diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad told lawmakers along with others how Pakistani leadership had gamed the American system for decades.

"Patsies chumps. Most Americans see out of this and yet our so called leaders do not really get it," Salmon added.

Bill Roggio, senior editor of the Long War Journal Foundation for Defense of Democracies along with Khalilzad called for cutting aid toPakistan and put them in the list of State Sponsor of terrorism.

"Pakistanis are very clever in manipulating us. I have to say that," said Khalilzad, sharing his experience of dealing with the Pakistani leadership when he served in various diplomatic position in the Bush era including the US ambassador to Afghanistan and the Permanent Representative of the US to the UN.

They reach out to distinguished members of the Congress, they invite them for visits, they charm them, they promise once again and they extract statements from us that are "surprising" in the face of facts, he said.

Asked why the US continued with its same policy, Khalilzad said that Pakistani ability to manipulate by their actions in part had been a factor.


"My experience in dealing with Pakistan is that they will only give you something, when they know that they are going to get something," the former top American diplomat said.

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher said the Pakistani government and the Saudi Arabia created the Taliban and the Haqqani network. Rohrabacher said the US' aid giving to Pakistan was "ridiculous".

"People of Baluchistan are being slaughtered by this corrupt oppressive regime. People of Baluchistan should understand that the US is on their side for their independence and self-determination from a corrupt, viscous terrorist supporting regime," Rohrabacher said.


"Same with the Sindhis. Same with other groups in Pakistan. So we got a regime that murders and represses and is corrupt with their own people and yet we still continue to give them some type of support... absolutely absurd," Rohrabacher said during the Congressional hearing.

Salmon said he personally believed that as the first step, the US should completely cut off aid to Pakistan. "That would be the right first step. If we do not make any changes, we move some of the other suggestions, state sponsor terrorism, possible economic sanctions. I personally believe we have the worst policy that we have and what we are doing is rewarding thugs," Salmon said.

On the other hand, spokesperson of the Pakistani embassy in Washington has stated that United States and Pakistan are ‘friends’ and have common goals in war on terror.

He further said that leadership of both the countries have acknowledged sacrifices rendered in war on terror by each other.


http://nation.com.pk/international/...te-sponsor-of-terrorism-us-congress-committee

So the people who murdered millions upon millions of innocent Red indians, Vietnamese, African slaves, Iraqis and Afghans have the audacity to call us killers.........the stench of hypocrisy is chocking. The americans want to make us Pakistanis into a slave race like they have done to some Middle Eastern and Far Eastern nations. The fact that they can't and we won't allow it really hurts & frustrates them. Pakistan really needs to keep the americans as far away from us as possible. We need to keep our contact with them even below bare minimum requirements. Unlike other Muslim nations, the americans can't physically do anything to us so they'll start calling us terrorists and human rights violators.

 

[Tiger Genie]

Really what do you call providing transport infrastructure for 10 years for getting in and out of Afghanistan for no charges at all? Remember?

it is called us cleaning up the mess you created

 

[The Sandman]

Oh the irony "Americans" accusing other nations of sponsoring terrorism

 

[Tiger Genie]

That wasn't aid you dolt....that's what he's trying to tell you. The $300m is CSF funding - the payment the US gives to Pakistan army for services rendered.

services which they never rendered and in fact create more jihadi orgs to bilk us of even more billing. which is what the headline is you hothead.

 

[Hiptullha]

The US has employed this strategy a number of times. We were threatened and sanctioned the same way during the '90s, mainly brcause of nuclear tests, but also because ot what was going on in Afghanistan. Then 9/11 happened, our relevance increased and the US came running back to us. There probably wont be another 9/11 happening but I also think the US doesn't want to create another potential enemy. The key here is to not come running back like Mush did after 9/11 when the US showed signs of rapprochement.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Says the country that openly supports terrorists in the ME? Lol give the world a break. US is full of shit.

 

[Jaanbaz]

USA should look after its Black minority being killed by white police officers, USA should not interfere with other countries if it can't keep its own house in peace.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

These guys are irrelevant and have been doing this since 2003.

 

[Solomon2]

LOL at American talking about slaughtering innocents. From Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran , Pakistan, Sudan , Palestine, millions upon millions have suffered at the hands of this terrorist regime and yet they do not even blink when handing out lectures to others. Mr. Senator, you need a bamboo up your 'you know where'.

Did that outburst make you feel any better about all the Muslim-on-Muslim slaughter that happens without U.S. encouragement or support? Will popularizing such feel-good stuff help solve matters or keep them bloody?

USA should look after its Black minority being killed by white police officers, USA should not interfere with other countries if it can't keep its own house in peace.

Millions of Pakistani feet scurrying to the U.S. are a greater rebuke to your words than anything I could write, yes?

 

[pakdefender]

Khalilzad and Bill Roggio , a gathering of clowns

Instead of focusing on Pakistan , the congressmen should focus on public schooling in the US , which is a mess in some places , especially in places like Chicago

 

[X-2.]

Chilkot is slap on usa and Nato

Usa Israel and India are war criminals

 

[Mysticbuddy]

Dear uncle Sam,
This is what defending national interest is and doing it in difficult times. Your frustration is just. You are not used to countries standing up to you and not getting bombed to oblivion in the process.

Now you may not need us as much so now you bicker, no worries we will find another way to survive. Our existence is our success. We don't need pot bellies and brain dead nation hooked on to credit and vacation craze to make us feel good about our lives. We will live with little but with dignity while milking you once in a while.

Regards,
A Common Pakistani.

Well this is one place where even begging is dignified.

Good luck