A.P. Richelieu
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There is a new government in Egypt, The Swedes know this, so the deal if Egypt is interested might still go through, by the way they have sold the system to Pakistan.
There was this submarine affair that did not work with the Germans too.
The German tanks to SA faced opposition.
Does this mean that Northern Europeans have something against the Arabs? While they pretend that the human rights record plays a big role in their defense sales, they give their best armaments for free or for a symbolic payment to Israel, the world's most notorious human rights violator apartheid entity.
Is there a lesson to be learned for the Arabs concerning this matter that most certainly hides more grievances?
At least Iran did understand this and started an overall self sufficiency program and achieved it.
There is this story of the Viking coming to Andalusia and starting to loot villages, rape women and kill innocent people, in no time, maybe within 24 hours a huge Arab army faced them, surrounded them and killed most of them, the remaining ones, the elderly the children and the women were allowed to take their boats and go back to where they came from, they never came back again. Maybe this still engraved in their collective memory. This is just to say that the values they are bringing up today do not belong to them, it is an irony of the times that these values belong to the Arabs who are criticized today by these looters, who are now looting history itself.
Nope, wouldn't export to Greece + Chile under the Juntas, Apartheid South Africa, North Korea.
Countries involved in Civil War are out. UN sanctions block exports.
Democracies are acceptable as a general rule, non-democracies not.
Can't start exporting to countries involved in wars, but would obviously support existing deals.
Arab countries are generally off limit, due to bad forms of government.
Egypt is really doubtful with summary trials resulting in death penalties without people beeing heard.
In short, lots of rules, and also domestic political considerations.
South Africa nowadays, India, Thailand and Brazil are examples of non EU/NATO countries
that got approval. The Pakistan order is actually a little surprising to me.
Apparently they sustained heavy damage/was destroyed last year, and SAAB
cannot get any technicians that wants to support a replacement deal due to the dangerous
situations for foreigners.
Even if the Egyptian justice system has multiple courts for complaints, and the death sentences
may be revoked, it gives bad press.
May be wrong, but I don't think Sweden sells weapons to Israel.
Would have caused a lot of domestic problems.