Do Indians and Pakistani really understand each other?

[toxic_pus]

This is just your own personal opinions on Pakistan. You cant speak for your large population or your government.

The truth is:

-blah blah blah-

He, being an Indian 'can't speak' for his country, because of the 'large population' and yet, you, being a non-Indian can speak for that very same 'large population'.

Do you even read what you post.

 

[third eye]

This is just your own personal opinions on Pakistan. You cant speak for your large population or your government.

The truth is:

1. Indians hate Pakistanis way more than they hate the Chinese or any other group of people on earth.

2. There are still many people in India (even in your government) who cant get over partition of 1947. For example the recent book on the founder of Pakistan written by a former BJP member that got him banned from the party.

3. There are still many people in India who hate the existence of Pakistan. For example, your media once showed the world 10 steps on how to destroy Pakistan

4. There are still many people in India who dream about Akhand Bharat.

5. There are still many people in India who dream about nuking Pakistan, or breaking it up into many pieces, or merging it with India.

And when I say many I mean millions because your population is over a billion..so there maybe some Indians who want peace with Pakistan and a stable Pakistan, but there are also millions of Indians who want nothing good for Pakistan.

Yes , there are many Indians who hate Pk. The reasons for the hatred is not for the reasons shown above. Yet they are not obsessed with Pk as felt by some. By the grace of god, we have enough probs of our own to be overly concerned by others.

As rgds breaking up pk, India needs to do nothing. Pk is doing a fine job by itself.

The bottom line is that no one understands india better than pakistanis do & no one understands Pakistanis better than Indian do. We are fully aware how each others minds work. The attempt to bleed India thru a thousand cuts did not work.

We make good friends outside the sub continent - even help each other. This is something I have had 1st hand experience of. Once back home , the same hate syndrome takes over.

If peace has to ever come to our region , it can only come when we reconcile ourselves to our geography.

 

[Omar1984]

Who is Ziad Hamid. Is he not your own Media... Man. He is not only talking about destroying but merging it with India and making it Pakistan's part.

Zaid Hamid is not a reporter in any Pakistani news channel. He is just one man.

Your news channels report on steps on how to destroy Pakistan. There was a thread on this forum a while back on pathetic indian news channel and their 10 steps.

 

[Hari]

1. Indians hate Pakistanis way more than they hate the Chinese or any other group of people on earth.

A great majority of Indians don't hate a person just because he/she is Pakistani. There are several Pakistani artists performing in India, Arent they given respect by Indians. What about Pakistani sports persons, They were loved as much as any other sports persons. I think this is the case with most of the Pakistanis as well. What about you Omar? By reading your posts I think you hate Indians more than any thing on the earth

2. There are still many people in India (even in your government) who cant get over partition of 1947. For example the recent book on the founder of Pakistan written by a former BJP member that got him banned from the party.

Every one accepts the existance of Pakistan but a lot of people still believe that we could have peacefully co-existed

There are still many people in India who dream about Akhand Bharat.

I came to know about it from Pakistani sources only

There are still many people in India who dream about nuking Pakistan, or breaking it up into many pieces, or merging it with India.

There are several Pakistanis dream about Nuking India or breaking India . Such type of people do exist in India, But I dont think that there is anyone who dream about merging Pakistan with India.. ya...when I was a child [7-8 yrs old ] we used to talk about the cricket team of Unpartitioned India in which Saeed Anwar and Sachin Tendulkar Opening the innings

 

[VelocuR]

A great majority of Indians don't hate a person because he/she is Pakistani.

Yes , there are many Indians who hate Pk. The reasons for the hatred is not for the reasons shown above. Yet they are not obsessed with Pk as felt by some. By the grace of god, we have enough probs of our own to be overly concerned by others.

Which one is correction?

 

[third eye]

Which one is correction?

Both are correct.. read carefully.

 

[Omar1984]

I've never seen a Pakistani news reporter talk about India like these Indian news reporters are talking about Pakistan. Pakistan's Aaj channel showed the entire nation on how immature Indian news channels are.

In the beginning of the video they show India's report and then Pakistanis response to India's report:

 

[VelocuR]

^ What a rubbish, "BREAKING NEWS ?"....

 

[mahabharath]

I've never seen a Pakistani news reporter talk about India like these Indian news reporters are talking about Pakistan. Pakistan's Aaj channel showed the entire nation on how immature Indian news channels are.

5g7hdOklaTA[/media] - India's 10 step plan to destroy Pakistan but in the end pls witness their missile technology

are you really surprised so much sir? you are talking about one particular channel, which might have been watched more by pakistanis than indians...how about your text books bro? which were doctored so much to inflict hatred in your minds towards india and hindus? have you heard about them?

 

[paritosh]

This is just your own personal opinions on Pakistan. You cant speak for your large population or your government.

The truth is:

1. Indians hate Pakistanis way more than they hate the Chinese or any other group of people on earth.

2. There are still many people in India (even in your government) who cant get over partition of 1947. For example the recent book on the founder of Pakistan written by a former BJP member that got him banned from the party.

3. There are still many people in India who hate the existence of Pakistan. For example, your media once showed the world 10 steps on how to destroy Pakistan

4. There are still many people in India who dream about Akhand Bharat.

5. There are still many people in India who dream about nuking Pakistan, or breaking it up into many pieces, or merging it with India.

And when I say many I mean millions because your population is over a billion..so there maybe some Indians who want peace with Pakistan and a stable Pakistan, but there are also millions of Indians who want nothing good for Pakistan.

Omar...do you know why a considerable percentage of people from both sides hate each other?
because of the lack of person-to-person ties and a general lack of communication and a robust platform of unbiased interaction.As far as the Indians being on this forum is concerned...some come here for the kicks of being able to bash every thing Pakistani...and some,like me come here to understand where our animosity lies.

I am pretty sure that after interacting with some of the Indian members of the forum...you'd have not felt that you are talking to the lineage of satan...

this traditional excommunication of our two countries has given rise to much of the hate...don't you agree?
your points are very valid....but haven't some of the Pakistanis have envisioned the "ghazwa-e-hind" against an "akhand Bharat"
and an eventual break-up of India into 1000 separate states...?
who can forget the air-time that was given to Zaid Hamid?

 

[FlyingEagle]

Dear Friends don't be aggressive. Its true we Indians and Pakistanis hate each other. Its a big fact and reality. If one want to ends this, he should be concentrate on the reason becoz of which this hate started. Some points are as under:

1. Religion:
We both have opposite religion. So its the hate of muslims and hindus.
2. History:
After the decline of Muslim rulers--->Britishers come and divide it into two. Most of the Indians don't accept Pakistan. But now with the passage of time many of them are accepting Pakistan but still on a very minor ratio.

These above two points are endless debateable. So start discussing on being humans. The following are the reasons.

1. Basic rights:
When ever India want, stop water from our rivers. Always go against the moida.

2. Politics:
All the Indian Got. always blame Pakistan openly even before investigation when some up/down occur (One recent example is Mumbai). Yar koi ap pa ilzam laga dy bina sochy samjy to kaya karo gy? usy phoolo ki mala to ni pahnaoo gy na?

3. Media:
Indian media (Channels and Movies) are aginst Muslims. They show muslims as a villan. And the impotant point is they also show a muslim in a good character, a emandar person who can sacrifise his life for India but the impact of villan is more stronger.

4. Kasmir:
Everyone knows abt this problem. In Islam all the muslims are brothers. In kashmir many muslims are suffeing. Just tell me what you feel if someone hurts ur own brother. What u will think abt that person? want to hurt him too if possible otherwise hate him. But u can't love him. In Islam to fogive some on his mistake is a very holy action but if other stop doing this.

Please answer all the points one by one if one can answer.

 

[third eye]

Dear Friends don't be aggressive. Its true we Indians and Pakistanis hate each other. Its a big fact and reality. If one want to ends this, he should be concentrate on the reason becoz of which this hate started. Some points are as under:

1. Religion:
We both have opposite religion. So its the hate of muslims and hindus.
2. History:
After the decline of Muslim rulers--->Britishers come and divide it into two. Most of the Indians don't accept Pakistan. But now with the passage of time many of them are accepting Pakistan but still on a very minor ratio.

There is no relevance between decline of Mughals - British Rule & creation / acceptance of Pk.

These above two points are endless debateable. So start discussing on being humans. The following are the reasons.

1. Basic rights:
When ever India want, stop water from our rivers. Always go against the moida.

Water is being shared according to the provisions of the IWT. Objections raised by Pk on various issues were checked by the world bank. No flaws were found.

2. Politics:
All the Indian Got. always blame Pakistan openly even before investigation when some up/down occur (One recent example is Mumbai). Yar koi ap pa ilzam laga dy bina sochy samjy to kaya karo gy? usy phoolo ki mala to ni pahnaoo gy na?

Accusations by GOI have rarely been proved incorrect. Mumbai definetely had Pk involvment. GOP cannot absolve itself using words like ' non state players'.

3. Media:
Indian media (Channels and Movies) are aginst Muslims. They show muslims as a villan. And the impotant point is they also show a muslim in a good character, a emandar person who can sacrifise his life for India but the impact of villan is more stronger.

Mixed remarks.. no comments. Portyal by media is not restricted to any one class / type of ppl.

4. Kasmir:
Everyone knows abt this problem. In Islam all the muslims are brothers. In kashmir many muslims are suffeing. Just tell me what you feel if someone hurts ur own brother. What u will think abt that person? want to hurt him too if possible otherwise hate him. But u can't love him. In Islam to fogive some on his mistake is a very holy action but if other stop doing this.

Please answer all the points one by one if one can answer.

Ummah is the biggest joke. How many examples do you need to show that muslims nations do not subscribe to this religious theme ? The earlier nations stop using this as a crutch to support themselves the better.

 

[Hari]

We will keep on fighting each other until we have a common enemy as powerful as US or China

 

[ek_indian]

1. Religion:
We both have opposite religion. So its the hate of muslims and hindus..

I see where the problem lies. You guys think that India is a land of Hindus. This is completely false. We have almost every religion on earth. Interestingly, Muslims are the second largest religion in India.

2. History:
After the decline of Muslim rulers--->Britishers come and divide it into two. Most of the Indians don't accept Pakistan. But now with the passage of time many of them are accepting Pakistan but still on a very minor ratio.

No one in India doesn't accept Pakistan. Afterall India was one stakeholder in the partition. And what has mughals or british has to do with it?

1. Basic rights:
When ever India want, stop water from our rivers. Always go against the moida..

Someone already answered this one.

2. Politics:
All the Indian Got. always blame Pakistan openly even before investigation when some up/down occur (One recent example is Mumbai). Yar koi ap pa ilzam laga dy bina sochy samjy to kaya karo gy? usy phoolo ki mala to ni pahnaoo gy na?

I think this is both ways. After Lahore attacks, didn't Pakistan accuse India for it? This was more recent example if go by date.

3. Media:
Indian media (Channels and Movies) are aginst Muslims. They show muslims as a villan. And the impotant point is they also show a muslim in a good character, a emandar person who can sacrifise his life for India but the impact of villan is more stronger.

You seem to hate India too much. You ignonred the fact that Bollywood's biggest stars are muslims. Rest of your rant is nonsense.

4. Kasmir:
Everyone knows abt this problem. In Islam all the muslims are brothers. In kashmir many muslims are suffeing. Just tell me what you feel if someone hurts ur own brother. What u will think abt that person? want to hurt him too if possible otherwise hate him. But u can't love him. In Islam to fogive some on his mistake is a very holy action but if other stop doing this.

You seems to avoid that India considers kashmir as its own integral part. You have all right to stand by your brothers but supporting "freedom figthers" is a different thing altogether.

 

[FlyingEagle]

@ third eye
These are not answers to my questions. Now come and talk on rational grounds. You didn't clear 3rd and 4th points?
The annswer for 1st is:
Dear Aag hoti hay to dhowa hota hay...........bilawaja koi cheez itni dair ni tharti. comeon its 62+ years.......My family also belongs to agriculture. Last year in these days India stop water from chinab. How much we lost we know.
The chenab is as under



Agar hamaisha India na apny wady ki passdari ki hay to phr logo ka damag kharab hay jo ja kr world bank k agy ro kr paisa n time zaiya krty hay. Baki masly chor kr. ya hamary ha sb excellent conditions ma chal raha hay n we dont have any other work.

Ans to 2nd one is:
Ya to woi bat hui k mujy lag raha tha k who mujh pr hans raha tha is ly ma ny moka mar k us k dant nikal dy.
Talk on rational grounds..........