Disappointment at Saarc as Pakistan blocks 3 key connectivity agreements

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

i don't know when India will learn that Pakistan never wants peace.

India is the one that cancelled the bilateral dialog over frivolous reasons and then engaged in unprovoked ceasefire violations with Modi and the rest of his BJP coterie ranting and raving to whip up domestic hysteria against Pakistan for the Indian elections.

The party that does not want peace here is clearly Modi.

 

[Hyperion]

I know of the quoted aspect of the equation too well.... this can be handled quiet adequately with proper policy decisions...... not with blanket isolation of Pakistan as a nation.

Actually, jahils and isolationists like you are a joke that misrepresent peace loving nation of Pakistan. People like you shouldn't even be allowed to leave geographical boundaries of Pakistan.

I'm guessing you're another one of those foreign based Pakistanis that would like India to flood the Pakistani Agricultural market being duty free and invest in their companies?

 

[SQ8]

Prosperity of trade and commerce?

Don't make me laugh. Is it the same prosperity that Nawaz Sharif is enjoying? He invested in India, and is now hostage to India regarding Pakistan's foreign policy. The rich get richer, while the poor die in droves. To hell with your notion of prosperity. At least Zia, was never a sell-out like you. What are you trying to prove here?

I'm guessing you're another one of those foreign based Pakistanis that would like India to flood the Pakistani Agricultural market being duty free and invest in their companies?

What a joke.

Do you have proof that the above will happen with opening trade with India? After all, unless you actually can prove your contention of the rich getting richer, poor getting poorer(happening anyway across much of the third world).. your post is nothing more than a poor attempt at cynicism.. a joke at serious discussion.

 

[Zaalim]

But show must go on.

Many people in both country want peace but Zihadi elements do not want that to be a reality.We must talk of peace because there is no other way exist ahead.

Of course, peace is the only viable option. However, Pakistan does not want peace on India's terms. Forced peace is no peace at all. It simply serves as another function of war. True peace is something that can only be attained via compromise.

 

[he-man]

Prosperity of trade and commerce?

Don't make me laugh. Is it the same prosperity that Nawaz Sharif is enjoying? He invested in India, and is now hostage to India regarding Pakistan's foreign policy. The rich get richer, while the poor die in droves. To hell with your notion of prosperity. At least Zia, was never a sell-out like you. What are you trying to prove here?

I'm guessing you're another one of those foreign based Pakistanis that would like India to flood the Pakistani Agricultural market being duty free and invest in their companies?

What a joke.

Don't be so zaalim to blame india for everything.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Do you have proof that the above will happen with opening trade with India? After all, unless you actually can prove your contention of the rich getting richer, poor getting poorer(happening anyway across much of the third world).. your post is nothing more than a poor attempt at cynicism.. a joke at serious discussion.

@Hyperion
As a counter argument, do we have evidence about the positive tangible impact on Pakistani industry of "free trade" with India? Do we have an enormous surplus of agricultural and manufacturing goods/services that Pakistan can currently not export to any other market except India?

 

[Zaalim]

Do you have proof that the above will happen with opening trade with India? After all, unless you actually can prove your contention of the rich getting richer, poor getting poorer(happening anyway across much of the third world).. your post is nothing more than a poor attempt at cynicism.. a joke at serious discussion.

And what leverage would Pakistan have over India? Instead of speculation, let's use common sense. The Indians would simply flood the Pakistani market, while Pakistan would only be able to tax their trade routes.

Our actual 'middle class', the farmers would be left high and dry.

 

[SQ8]

@Hyperion
As a counter argument, do we have evidence about the positive tangible impact on Pakistani industry of "free trade" with India? Do we have an enormous surplus of agricultural and manufacturing goods/services that Pakistan can currently not export to any other market except India?

What about good other than processed ones?

And what leverage would Pakistan have over India? Instead of speculation, let's use common sense. The Indians would simply flood the Pakistani market, while Pakistan would only be able to tax their trade routes.

Our actual 'middle class', the farmers would be left high and dry.

What about raw materials.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Every south asian country is now blaming Pakistan for lack of progress....disaster for Pakistan foreign policy... good played Modi !!!

Modi fan-boys are hilarious - at the bottom of this thread is a link from 2010:

Pak blocks two key SAARC pacts

Almost identical headlines and issues - so I guess back then it was "good played MMS!", and "every South Asdian country is now blaming Pakistan for the lack of progress ... disaster for Pakistan foreign policy" ... how did that work out?

 

[farhan_9909]

As long as india doesn't stop sending terrorist to pakistan apart from funding the local,we will give you resistance even in your existance let alone development activities

modi and indians should get this permanently into their brain

 

[Hyperion]

Mate, as a counter-counter argument tell me something.... Pakistan is already flooded with every sort of Chinese product........ free trade of not........ what has been the impact of it on our local industry? Have we even bothered to calculate to it? Free Trade with India is a secondary question, the argument here in the thread is mostly about enhancement of people to people contacts through enhancement of communication networks and channels.

@Hyperion
As a counter argument, do we have tangible evidence about the positive impact on Pakistani industry of "free trade" with India? Do we have an enormous surplus of agricultural and manufacturing goods/services that Pakistan can currently not export to any other market except India?

 

[Zaalim]

What about good other than processed ones?

What about raw materials.

Which raw materials?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What about good other than processed ones?

Like what? What kinds of surplus are we looking at? Is India the only market we can export those goods to?

What about raw materials.

Again, what kinds? Can we export them to other markets? China? Why do we need a FTA with India to export raw materials? These can be exported under limited trade agreements with India, like the ones we have entered into so far.

 

[SQ8]

Which raw materials?

Start with Cement and Cotton Yarn. Your textile industry is all but dead anyway.

 

[SQ8]

Like what? What kinds of surplus are we looking at? Is India the only market we can export those goods to?

Again, what kinds? Can we export them to other markets? China? Why do we need a FTA with India to export raw materials? These can be exported under limited trade agreements with India, like the ones we have entered into so far.

Two Ive mentioned above.

Surgical instruments are another option.

Limited agreements also shackles us from competing in the India market. One that we could capture considering ease of access.