Dhaka urges int'l community: Pressurise Israel to stop Gaza atrocities

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

The boundary was not defined in 1947. Upon independence Israel did not declare the boundaries of the country or its administrative area. There was a partition plan at the U.N., but since the Arabs rejected it (even though the Israelis did not) the plan is not legally binding.

In case you haven't noticed, the U.N. doesn't usually determine state boundaries. Post-war Germany may have been an exception, but that's because the U.N. was the forum of convenience. Boundaries are determined bilaterally between states.

It wasn't just Britain, it was the League of Nations, and before that the Ottoman Caliph and the British working together. (Yes, the Caliph sanctioned Jewish settlement of Palestine in the Treaty of Sevres.) You have to fit yourself into the post-WWI period: three empires - Russian, Austro-Hungarian, and Ottoman - were broken up into nation-states. Boundaries were drawn. Peoples migrated. The British Mandate wasn't a particularly unusual arrangement.

By the terms of the Mandate, Arabs and Jews were supposed to respect each other's civil and property rights in the areas that came under their political control. The Arabs nevertheless kicked the Jews out of Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan, and you have no problem with that. Israel, on the other hand, is 20%+ Arab, many of these keep their ancestral property, and some areas, like the Galilee, are now majority Arab.

The "Palestinians" are the descendants of those who fought against the nascent Jewish State and fled; by the law and practice of the Ottomans (no one knew this better than Ben-Gurion, who trained as a lawyer in Turkey) they had forfeited their civil and property rights within the Mandate area.

Not all of these Arabs ended up outside Israel - some have resettled elsewhere within the Jewish State - but the depressing conclusion, for those supporters of "Palestinians" who care about facts, is that these Arabs have neither a legal claim nor a moral claim on Israeli territory. They are simply badly behaved welfare recipients who receive the pity and charity of the world with resentment and violence.

So you see, I'm not the one being "selective" here, am I?

Yes you are selective. What British did was colonization and league of nation just followed that line as a result it dissolved eventually. Even in 1947 UN acted with colonization mindset that was clear to many that is the reason most of the countries in Asia and Africa those who were victim of colonization rejected the formation of this state including India and China which was absent.

Regarding jewish migration it was allowed as a refuge those who were victim of anti semitism not for forming a separate state only for them victimizing the local population. Under no law it is allowed by a colonial power to bring foreign nationals and calling a separate state without taking consent of the local population. Israel has no right whatsoever to declare its border as it is an artificially created state taking land of other nationals. No people will accept anything as such which we had seen in the case of aboriginal people of Australia, Canada and USA. We have also seen the struggle of the South African black people against the foreign white migrants.

Palestine was part of Ottoman empire then it went under colonization when the colonial power created all these problem due to influence of some racist ideology and apocalyptic view. It does not mean that some foreign migrants got the right to do whatever it wants with the land depriving the local population. Israel has only two way to follow legally either to accept 1967 border or an one state solution. Not only UN but also EU, International Court and legal adviser of US State department in 1978 declared all settlement activity is illegal which so far never been changed or altered so far.

Soon apartheid regime will face the same situation like the apartheid regime of South Africa. Most of the country in the world condemned it and called illegal settlement illegal.

 

[TopCat]

look up Indo-Israel relations, you will understand the significance... And if approval of a muslim nation was even relevant to Tel-Aviv, they wouldn't have helped India during kargil conflict. Apart from that, Israels attitude is a little different from conventional diplomacy, the dont give a jack about any arab or muslim country. thats it

There is no reason why India should not have relation with Israel infact both the coutries have one thing in common ant that is sworn enemy of Islam.

 

[KRAIT]

There is no reason why India should not have relation with Israel infact both the coutries have one thing in common ant that is sworn enemy of Islam.

Yeah...that's why there are more number of Muslims in India than BD. Even they have become President, cricket players, scientists, actors etc. Don't give such low level arguments which will make you laughing stock.

 

[Solomon2]

What British did was colonization and league of nation just followed that line as a result it dissolved eventually.

When you make up stuff out of thin air like that I see no reason why anyone should read any further. You embarrass yourself here.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

When you make up stuff out of thin air like that I see no reason why anyone should read any further. You embarrass yourself here.

No sir that was not embarrassment... just teaching you some history lesson. What do you think why league of nation came into being!!! It came only into being to safeguard the interest of the colonial powers. Same also with the case of UN's security council which does not reflect the view in most cases of the general assembly members thats why most of the countries asked it's reform including many western countries. Canadian PM even asked to dissolve security council.

This is history lesson for you what happen during 1st world war!!! I know it will be bitter for you but truth always hurts. You can not justify a crime by twisting and bending law which is not ethical and civilized in the 1st place!!!

 

[MilSpec]

There is no reason why India should not have relation with Israel infact both the coutries have one thing in common ant that is sworn enemy of Islam.

Let me welcome you to the 21'st century. India has good relations with most of the countries in the planet irrespective of thier religion, race or color. And as for your sworn enemy of islam rant is, Second largest muslim population on the planet which happens to be a secular democratic country was met with cold shoulder from OIC and most of muslim states during it's time of crisis. Also the same enemy of islam has better relation with most of the muslim world than quite a few.

 

[TopCat]

Let me welcome you to the 21'st century. India has good relations with most of the countries in the planet irrespective of thier religion, race or color. And as for your sworn enemy of islam rant is, Second largest muslim population on the planet which happens to be a secular democratic country was met with cold shoulder from OIC and most of muslim states during it's time of crisis. Also the same enemy of islam has better relation with most of the muslim world than quite a few.

Becuase India need petro dollar .. Thts why the feet licking nothing else.

2nd biggest Muslim nation.... Ohh come on!!! How much it hurts you that we know in the PDF

 

[Fireurimagination]

Becuase India need petro dollar .. Thts why the feet licking nothing else.

2nd biggest Muslim nation.... Ohh come on!!! How much it hurts you that we know in the PDF

Oh it's hurts you that India has good relations with all but one Muslim countries and has 2nd biggest Muslim population on the planet that lives peacefully with the Hindu majority, wake up and smell the coffee Bro even your anti-India parties are wanting good relations with India now, don't be so blinded by religion and hate

 

[UKBengali]

Oh it's hurts you that India has good relations with all but one Muslim countries and has 2nd biggest Muslim population on the planet that lives peacefully with the Hindu majority, wake up and smell the coffee Bro even your anti-India parties are wanting good relations with India now, don't be so blinded by religion and hate

Gujarat 2002 ring a bell?

 

[ebr77]

It is all the more lame if they hate just for hating. Bangladesh has no issues with Israel. Just ask the Arabs if they love you back.

we know arabs dnt give a ****, didn't in 1971. No offense but I personally dont think Arabs should matter to us . Our regional partners should matter more. eg.- China, India, Sri Lanka. if world tomorrow would invent alternate energy source, think of their position then.

Iajdani, lets not talk about Indians here.. Forget about the country I am representing and tell me.. What influence have Bangladesh over the world community?? Forgot world community, what about Islamic countries?? And also Israel do not share border with you.. You dont even posses threat to them.. Then why should they invest in a Tabloid which is published in Bangladesh only??

As far as I remember, a year back someone opened a page in FB " Israel Embassy in Bangladesh", the feedback they got, was amazing. Closed it down pretty quick.

 

[Gyp 111]

Oh it's hurts you that India has good relations with all but one Muslim countries and has 2nd biggest Muslim population on the planet that lives peacefully with the Hindu majority, wake up and smell the coffee Bro even your anti-India parties are wanting good relations with India now, don't be so blinded by religion and hate

Indian Muslims lives peacefully with the hindu majority
do you know about 2002 Gujarat Violence?

 

[scholseys]

It seems bangladeshis and pakistanis are more obsessed with palestine than arabs themselves. Israel is here to stay whether we like it or not. Its time to move on and recognize Israel for the good of our nation. Majority of bangladeshis donteven know where the holy palestine is on a map ffs.

 

[LOVETOALL]

Isreal give a sh1t to whatever BD think about themself. Isreal is different foreign policy and BD does not matter on that. Please note US has support to Isreal and nobody can do anything to them after knowing that.

 

[Black Widow]

Go Israel go... crush Hamas.. The cowards must be punished...

by the way who care BD,... I think hardly anyone know what and where BD is...

 

[Solomon2]

What do you think why league of nation came into being!!! It came only into being to safeguard the interest of the colonial powers.

That statement is defensible, though not very. Germany, after all, was also a colonial power yet the victors stripped it of its overseas empire. It's more accurate and defensible to assert that the League existed to expand (not "safeguard") the colonial interests of the European victors of WWI: France, Britain, and Italy.

Your previous statement, "What British did was colonization and league of nation just followed that line as a result it dissolved eventually" is not defensible at all and that's why I stopped reading.