Dhaka under pressure to sign US military co-op deal

[Avisheik]

Why would a country deploy troops without an agenda and without their national interest? BD can well deploy its troops only when BD's agenda matches with US agenda. It does not have to be UN all the time even though all the UN deployment was done with US consent.



Depends how strong you are in economic front. They will keep quiet when necessary.

I dont think BD has an international agenda, unlike the US, that involves the military. Furthermore, most of US rivals are our friends(china, russia). US gives consent to the UN, but so does other countries, which gives it more creditibility.

I dont think they will keep quite if we pursue nuclear weapons.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

Depends how strong you are in economic front. They will keep quiet when necessary.

Like they kept quiet and played nice drama with israel issue . But BD does not have that level of diplomatic capability. Also, it seems their current intention is not only woven by them but there's one behind the scene weaver .

 

[PlanetSoldier]

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[TopCat]

Like they kept quiet and played nice drama with israel issue . But BD does not have that level of diplomatic capability. Also, it seems their current intention is not only woven by them but there's one behind the scene weaver .

They keep quiet not only on Israel but Japan Germany India Pakistan. They kept quiet on Brazil too. South Africa developed nukes on their nose. So it all depend how important you are and how you play your card.

They certainly dont want to see nukes in the hand of their enemy like Iran and N. Korea which they actively fought war against.

I dont think BD has an international agenda, unlike the US, that involves the military. Furthermore, most of US rivals are our friends(china, russia). US gives consent to the UN, but so does other countries, which gives it more creditibility.

I dont think they will keep quite if we pursue nuclear weapons.

Why? We got one less ball?

 

[somebozo]

Improving releations with Myanmar and signing defense deals with Bangladesh..US is definitely up to something...

 

[Avisheik]

They keep quiet not only on Israel but Japan Germany India Pakistan. They kept quiet on Brazil too. South Africa developed nukes on their nose. So it all depend how important you are and how you play your card.

They certainly dont want to see nukes in the hand of their enemy like Iran and N. Korea which they actively fought war against.



Why? We got one less ball?

Yes they kept quite, but it was for their own interest. For example, Iran's nuclear posses a threat to the saudis(their oil producers). Come on they did not even sell Malaysia AMRAAM.


No We dont have a trillion dollar economy, a nuclear capable military and we certaintly dont sniff out oil in other countries.

 

[bd_4_ever]

To be honest, i would want to stay miles away from USA's 'bilateral development'.

USA = trouble, its as simple as that. I would not want to threaten Bangladesh's interest for a co-op tie. We would have much at stake, especially with China..and it wont be wise to risk it. USA is a master of backstabbing, been doing so all round the world.

So no military deals with them. Thank you.

Its also interesting, why all of sudden, out of the blue..world superpowers are loving us. First you have Russia, setting up nuclear plants and giving credits and now USA, pressurizing to start a co-op deal. Were we 'just an average country' few years back?

USA presence wont make China happy and certainly not Russia. Lets see what our 'able' government does.


Cheers!!!

 

[saleen_s7]

To be honest, i would want to stay miles away from USA's 'bilateral development'.

USA = trouble, its as simple as that. I would not want to threaten Bangladesh's interest for a co-op tie. We would have much at stake, especially with China..and it wont be wise to risk it. USA is a master of backstabbing, been doing so all round the world.

So no military deals with them. Thank you.

Its also interesting, why all of sudden, out of the blue..world superpowers are loving us. First you have Russia, setting up nuclear plants and giving credits and now USA, pressurizing to start a co-op deal. Were we 'just an average country' few years back?

USA presence wont make China happy and certainly not Russia. Lets see what our 'able' government does.


Cheers!!!

Either you like or not, the majority of our country's economy lies directly on America(not India, which the current govt wants you to believe), and I truly believe the comments Ashraful and Muhit made on Hillarys visit was nothing short of blasphemy, which will affect trade. Bangladesh should play its position safe i.e not make decisions with regional allies which will hinder our export market in the US. All the other issues like forming a coalition with anti west countries at the moment is nothing short of a wet dream, at least for now, not until we can become self sufficient and depend on ourselves only.
Some say, India is the new CHina, I say Hongkong is the new Bangladesh Inshallah in the near future

 

[oFFbEAT]

......Some say, India is the new CHina, I say Hongkong is the new Bangladesh Inshallah in the near future

I think you meant to say, Bangladesh is new Hong Kong

 

[saleen_s7]

THanks for the correction

 

[eastwatch]

That all sound good until the relationship is closer like Pakistan. Such relationship will make Bangladesh worse than Pakistan. All on a sudden they might have a US Navy Seal operation without informing BD authority that will target the killing of BD PM . Besides, US-india are now friends, both will use the same facilities.

India is certainly not a military partner of the USA. India wants USA to help it getting a secured border, but it may not give a military facility to the USA. Because, it will only annoy Russia. Considering US policy in other regions there will be USA-Delhi tie and a separate US-Dhaka (military) tie. We have to understand that US does not gain anything by forcing us to crawl over Indian lap.

USA is the policeman of the world. So, it tries to find out the future trouble spots in advance. However, if there is a signed military cooperation treaty between the two unequal countries and subsequently a semi military base, one can expect the rise of militancy in BD.

USA understands that BD will indirectly side with China by not allowing Indian supply line through its land. This may cause change of border in the north east of India. However, USA does not want the change of status quo of the region whereby China or India becomes superior to the USA in this region. So, USA wants to encircle China from Pacific to BoB. A presence in BD also equally keeps India pacified. A BD base will give it a much leverage over both China and India. China will be bottled within its geography.

By the way guys, I do not think USA will ask for a BIG price of the military surplus goodies from a poor BD. I think, the offer was made to sweaten any forthcoming negotiations, and our military will get many billions of dollars worth of US weapons of our choice. Not bad, but an outright military base is dangerous.

 

[eastwatch]

To be honest, i would want to stay miles away from USA's 'bilateral development'.

USA = trouble, its as simple as that. I would not want to threaten Bangladesh's interest for a co-op tie. We would have much at stake, especially with China..and it wont be wise to risk it. USA is a master of backstabbing, been doing so all round the world.

So no military deals with them. Thank you.

Its also interesting, why all of sudden, out of the blue..world superpowers are loving us. First you have Russia, setting up nuclear plants and giving credits and now USA, pressurizing to start a co-op deal. Were we 'just an average country' few years back?

USA presence wont make China happy and certainly not Russia. Lets see what our 'able' government does.

Cheers!!!

I am not really not in favour of a US treaty with BD. Nevertheless, I must say US has been protecting tiny countries like Kuwait, UAE, Israel, Jordan, Taiwan, Japan etc. from being overwhelmed by the much superior powers around them. USA is a troble for Pakistan, because Pakistan wants war. Iraq, because it grabbed a tiny Quawit. It wants to surround China because it is becoming a challenge and may try to overwhelm Taiwan and japan. It may also enter India's NE. So, USA wants to fill in the gaps between a big power and its smaller neighbours without really fightng.

 

[kalu_miah]

If the US is serious about containing both China and India, then a US allied ASEAN+ group is the most logical solution that will group together all vulnerable small states into a union of a billion people, protect them from regional bullies and stabilize the region in the long term. Allying with India to contain China would be suicidal for the US, just as it was suicidal for US to ally with China to contain Soviet Union.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

I really do not know what the big deal is. Sri Lanka has such a bilateral arrangement with the US but is a close ally of China and Pakistan. If Sri Lanka can maintain its sovereignty then why should not Bangladesh? I see certain benefits to a military arrangement with the US but even closer ties to China with a possible defence pact.

It has generally been the Indians who have opposed Bangladesh having any military arrangements with the US. Remember the fiasco over the SOFA agreement in 1996?

 

[Avisheik]

I really do not know what the big deal is. Sri Lanka has such a bilateral arrangement with the US but is a close ally of China and Pakistan. If Sri Lanka can maintain its sovereignty then why should not Bangladesh? I see certain benefits to a military arrangement with the US but even closer ties to China with a possible defence pact.

It has generally been the Indians who have opposed Bangladesh having any military arrangements with the US. Remember the fiasco over the SOFA agreement in 1996?

Defence pact is okay(like joint training and stuff. However this part is not

Dhaka is under pressure from Washington to sign a military cooperation deal aimed at enhancing the rapid deployment capability of the US forces far away from their bases

Depending on how you see it, it can either mean they can build bases in bangladesh or we serve them as foot soldiers, for their own interest.

Btw US intruded into sri lankan airspace last year, but sri lanka could do nothing about it

How is having a Defence pact with US gonna help our defence relations with China.

Its a good thing that the SOFA agreement didnt take place