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Dangerous delusions — Ertugrul mania

The vengeful fire was lit 1400 years ago.

It will only get bigger and hungrier.

I agree completely about your proximity. Stay well.
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No I waa banned there by your hardcore Arab types.

This place is still the most civilized.

I don't like what I morph into elsewhere.

Like the hulk. When the green mist descends ....

and you just gave up?
 
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Anybody who brings in sisters and mothers as a comeback insult is an insecure person. It shows your thinking. You think of women as possessions of honor. Not as individuals. Tumhari samajh nahi ayega I doubt it.



Ignore him. I am embarassed to have such raving lunatics as my countrymen. He's going to go and label me an anti national too now because I side with you. As if human rights are bounded by nationalism.
Move to india and be with your buddy..stop sitting on his lap as his secretary. You must have like him now jog on..shameless lanati bharati

Anybody who tries to talk sense in Pakistan and expresses the difficult truth is disregarded as a traitor, enemy of Islam, non Muslim, foreign agent, and completely incompetent even though this person has contributed more to the nations progress than 99% of the posters/posers here. You have to own up and come to terms with who you are rather than adopting various invader civilizations legacies just to distance yourself from India. Respect to this man for standing up and trying to talk sense well-aware that he will be attacked and ridiculed publicly for this.
You see since time began people who speak the truth stick to principles and talk logically have been laughed at and ridiculed. Be they men of religion such as jesus moses or muhammed peace be upon them all or men of science who said the earth wasnt flat.
People like you love to appease and lose your identity and are open to assimilation by other cultures. Do u even have an identity of culture?
So before you point fingers look in the mirror. Who are you.
We are muslims and Pakistanis.
 
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It's interesting analysis of Pervez , why some of them all out to defend these drama character , Arab, Iran etc etc.... take it easy guys.... respect each and everyone opinion. We need to accept we are in transition of identity crisis and in next few decades we will be one nation with our own role models... Turks,Arabs,Persians,Greeks all have there nationalistic history and icons. We respect there icons, but no need to chase them. Build your identity.
 
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Move to india and be with your buddy..stop sitting on his lap as his secretary. You must have like him now jog on..shameless lanati bharati


You see since time began people who speak the truth stick to principles and talk logically have been laughed at and ridiculed. Be they men of religion such as jesus moses or muhammed peace be upon them all or men of science who said the earth wasnt flat.
People like you love to appease and lose your identity and are open to assimilation by other cultures. Do u even have an identity of culture?
So before you point fingers look in the mirror. Who are you.
We are muslims and Pakistanis.
All ideas of identities are false, fabric of your imagination, grounded in ignorance.

You may choose whatever identity that appeals to you but at least choose something that has some basis in reality and history. A complete work of imagination which reinvents itself every 10-15 years, is clearly hinting to some underlying form of an identity crysis. Besides, why dont you play Turkish music in your television ads instead of vulgar bollywood songs or tollywood copies of bollywood songs?
 
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All ideas of identities are false, fabric of your imagination, grounded in ignorance.

You may choose whatever identity that appeals to you but at least choose something that has some basis in reality and history. A complete work of imagination which reinvents itself every 10-15 years, is clearly hinting to some underlying form of an identity crysis. Besides, why dont you play Turkish music in your television ads instead of vulgar bollywood songs or tollywood copies of bollywood songs?
Few issue in our society , majority of us are victim of pre-made given opinions and keep on towing and following those opinions. What a waste of beautiful mind.
 
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All ideas of identities are false, fabric of your imagination, grounded in ignorance.

You may choose whatever identity that appeals to you but at least choose something that has some basis in reality and history. A complete work of imagination which reinvents itself every 10-15 years, is clearly hinting to some underlying form of an identity crysis. Besides, why dont you play Turkish music in your television ads instead of vulgar bollywood songs or tollywood copies of bollywood songs?
Don't take the click bait of Pervez Hoodbhoy too seriously. He makes money because sanghee tools like you click on his articles to establish your daily dose of confirmation bias and shake your heads in merry victory.

We Pakistanis know who we are. But feel free to keep clicking and help one of us to make money off you.
 
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Pervaiz hoodbhoy will b ecstatic if his female family members perform indian item song semi nude on pakistani national TV but has issue with ertagrul
 
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There's no we.

There's no such entity as Muslim geopolitically or even socio-culturally.

Prove me wrong.

You cant prove wrong, a hollow, illogical point that is based on a fantasy. For me to prove anything wrong you have to make a logically coherent argument, all you have done is make a statement. A statement is a personal opinion, not a set of facts. if you give me your arguments then I can try to prove you wrong.

Now, let me make my statement, then if you wish to have a serious concentrated discussion that does not jump from one fantasy to another, then we can bring this argument to a conclusion.

By any measure that is applied to other groups, and each group's composition consists of cultural, social, historical, religious, ethnic, geographical, and various other factors that combine in various degrees to form an identity. By, this measure, there is a very clear and obvious Muslim identity and an Islamic identity, they can be the same or different depending on the personal association.

My second statement is that India as a historical nation-state is a fantasy. But, you guys seem to be living that on a daily basis.
 
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You cant prove wrong, a hollow, illogical point that is based on a fantasy. For me to prove anything wrong you have to make a logically coherent argument, all you have done is make a statement. A statement is a personal opinion, not a set of facts. if you give me your arguments then I can try to prove you wrong.

Now, let me make my statement, then if you wish to have a serious concentrated discussion that does not jump from one fantasy to another, then we can bring this argument to a conclusion.

By any measure that is applied to other groups, and each group's composition consists of cultural, social, historical, religious, ethnic, geographical, and various other factors that combine in various degrees to form an identity. By, this measure, there is a very clear and obvious Muslim identity and an Islamic identity, they can be the same or different depending on the personal association.

My second statement is that India as a historical nation-state is a fantasy. But, you guys seem to be living that on a daily basis.

A Muslim is as vague a socio-cultural or geopolitical term as is a Christian.

Not so if you say a Hindu.

You know exactly what you're getting.
 
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