Dangerous delusions — Ertugrul mania

[Yankee-stani]

It's not dangerous. It's faulty and flawed which need to be countered but when we say dangerous, then we start falling into the Ayub Khan and Bhutto formula where we start jailing people for their views because they're considered "dangerous".

Unfortunately when a third world country is in a stage of development there has to be a degree of social control to get the masses in line for development of the country Korea in the 60s was in the same boat like us they had a military dictator Park Chung Hee who was quite brutal our military leaders were more intrested like civlian in just looting I dont know what's with Pakistan all leaders love to loot the reserves

 

[masterchief_mirza]

It's not dangerous. It's faulty and flawed which need to be countered but when we say dangerous, then we start falling into the Ayub Khan and Bhutto formula where we start jailing people for their views because they're considered "dangerous".

Fair point. Even I don't want the guy jailed for a b.s. article.

 

[El Sidd]

The year 1971 showed decisively the limits of pan-Islamism. Aping Saudi culture failed to create a viable Pakistani identity; aping Turkey won’t get us much further. Instead a strong national identity can emerge only if Pakistan embraces pluralism, accepts that Punjab is just another Pakistani province, and helps all citizens achieve a sense of belonging based upon a commitment to equality and justice.

Pirouz believes in Inteqam Sakht too

 

[doorstar]

I could have sworn I replied here to some one [without being abusive unlike PDF management fave fisher1] @AgNoStiC MuSliM where is my post? or am I confused and never posted?

Not surprising this cunt has a problem with Ertugrul.

is this the quality you look for in a post? @ PDF Chiefs

 

[El Sidd]

where is my post?

I reported it.

Stop throwing keywords around to stir up fish and chips session debates.

 

[El Sidd]

is this the quality you look for in a post? @ PDF Chiefs

have you reported each use of this word or just selective nature of it?

maybe he learned this bad word from Brits on the forum who use it as lingua franca.

 

[Dalit]

Anybody who tries to talk sense in Pakistan and expresses the difficult truth is disregarded as a traitor, enemy of Islam, non Muslim, foreign agent, and completely incompetent even though this person has contributed more to the nations progress than 99% of the posters/posers here. You have to own up and come to terms with who you are rather than adopting various invader civilizations legacies just to distance yourself from India. Respect to this man for standing up and trying to talk sense well-aware that he will be attacked and ridiculed publicly for this.

He has hidden his flags and is lecturing Pakistanis about right and wrong.

Islam and Turkey is an important part of Pakistani identity. We don't require lectures from foreigners who know nothing about Pakistan.

 

[bsruzm]

I'm very interested in the Kurds.

The PKK is your internal problem. I'm not overly interested in Turkey except as a future holiday destination. I have a couple of Turk friends but we stay away from religion and politics. Messy. And with my parallel pursuits, they would not remain my friends too long.

All is fine but I am not sure what triggered your Indian rear that you respond my friendly post negatively or even offensively

 

[Psychic]

Anything written by YahoodBhai is worth taking its print and wiping your @ss with.

 

[padamchen]

All is fine but I am not sure what triggered your Indian rear though that you respond my friendly post negatively

Nothing at all.

I actually enjoy your engagement with the Arabs.

 

[fisher1]

I could have sworn I replied here to some one [without being abusive unlike PDF management fave fisher1] @AgNoStiC MuSliM where is my post? or am I confused and never posted?


is this the quality you look for in a post? @ PDF Chiefs

Maybe you're completely delusional, clearly if you think i am pdf management fav especially after the constant abuse you, rott and rest of the crowd sent my way. You haven't seen the number of warnings i have on my profile.

And people who disrespect our Ulema and go so dangerously towards mocking Islamic concepts to be considered heretics all the while representing Islam, i don't see anything wrong with calling them out for what they are. Cunts inside and outside.

He once said on TV that earthquakes are a natural phenomenon and nothing to do with God's punishment clearly rejecting the Holy Quran verses.

He also insulted and humiliated Hamza Tzortzis when he was a guest of Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

Nothing at all.

I actually enjoy your engagement with the Arabs.

you mean you like his courage to say things you dream of saying

 

[padamchen]

you mean you like his courage to say things you dream of saying

His opportunity.

You should try world defence. They'll lap you up.

 

[peagle]

There is no we.

Our Muslims are ours.

Im too bored to be arguing Indian internals with Pakistanis anymore so I will disengage now.

Cheers.

Not to be rude, but, are you a clown or just a bit unsettled.

I did not know they belonged to you. When did you buy your Muslims, or is it you just decided to enslave them? full ownership.

 

[padamchen]

Not to be rude, but, are you a clown or just a bit unsettled.

I did not know they belonged to you. When did you buy your Muslims, or is it you just decided to enslave them? full ownership.

There's no we.

There's no such entity as Muslim geopolitically or even socio-culturally.

Prove me wrong.