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Dangerous delusions — Ertugrul mania

All ideas of identities are false, fabric of your imagination, grounded in ignorance.

Ram Lal dabbling at sociology. Things like the money and the state are also social constructs, just so you know.

You may choose whatever identity that appeals to you but at least choose something that has some basis in reality and history. A complete work of imagination which reinvents itself every 10-15 years, is clearly hinting to some underlying form of an identity crysis. Besides, why dont you play Turkish music in your television ads instead of vulgar bollywood songs or tollywood copies of bollywood songs?

LMAO Bollywood songs and Tollywood songs. Bollywood's been stealing Pakistani music for decades and now I'm hearing our television ads are using Bollywood songs. Ram Lal, if your argument had any basis in reality and history, you'd be able to show proof of an identity crisis without referring to fictional Pakistani ads.

Bro cool down. No need to be a Sherlock. Wait, I'll look into some of them.

Here:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1560207/smokers-corner-shaheen-and-ertugrul-revisionist-histories

https://www.dawn.com/news/1511713/god-bless-liberal-fascists

https://www.dawn.com/news/1559111/lets-move-on

https://www.dawn.com/news/1552203/smokers-corner-the-disruption-of-populism

https://www.dawn.com/news/1523503/hooligans-in-high-professions

Now some of these just have mentions of India. As mentioned previously, I'm not saying that the criticissm of India is always the case, but it occurs.

Pakistani liberals talk about India (now Bharat) because they used to put in on a pedestal. Now that it's degenerated into the land of ancient plastic surgery, space ships and blue superhumans, they use it as an example to the rest of us. Either way, I don't buy their arguments.
 
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All ideas of identities are false, fabric of your imagination, grounded in ignorance.

You may choose whatever identity that appeals to you but at least choose something that has some basis in reality and history. A complete work of imagination which reinvents itself every 10-15 years, is clearly hinting to some underlying form of an identity crysis. Besides, why dont you play Turkish music in your television ads instead of vulgar bollywood songs or tollywood copies of bollywood songs?
By your statement you should give up your name as its false has no meaning and is a figment of your imagination. Your life is worthless so kill yourself
Bollywood..thew indian scum

But who are you? No body right. Off you go
 
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By your statement you should give up your name as its false has no meaning and is a figment of your imagination. Your life is worthless so kill yourself
Bollywood..thew indian scum

But who are you? No body right. Off you go

He won't lol. That's the thing. Since they're all vile hypocrites, they'll cling to their 19th century Hindu identity and the various signifiers of that identity like revering cows and idol worship. All these arguments are for us so we stop washing 5 times a day and start believing in comic book stories about 12-headed supervillains.
 
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A Muslim is as vague a socio-cultural or geopolitical term as is a Christian.

Not so if you say a Hindu.

You know exactly what you're getting.

Please try and make an effort, again, you have only made a statement, personal opinion and nothing else, qualify your statement with a "why" you think that is so.

While you think of something worthwhile to add to your statement, allow me to blow your bubble.

Christians created their own identity, Christian is called a Christian because that is how they identify themselves.
Muslims also created their own identity, a Muslim is called a Muslim because that is how they identify themselves.

A Hindu is called a Hindu because foreigners created a name to identify a group of people because they did not have an identity of their own because none existed. You are a fantasy, a figment of your imagination.

Your parents named you whatever your name is, you are not given a name by a stranger, nor do people identify themselves by a name created by someone else. The supreme qualification for identity is that it has to be self-created, self-identified.

The Arabs referred to the Europeans as the Franks, the Europeans do not call themselves Franks because they have a real identity of their own. Europe was ruled by the Romans for hundreds of years and yet they are not known as the Romans, because, they have an identity of their own. There are a lot of examples, do some reading.

Now please, wake up and leave this Hindu, Indian and whatever other fantasy you are stuck in, it is actually you who have no identity, you are not real.

Whilst you are thinking this over, go and convince your Tamils and other groups to accept Hindi before you go shouting about other people. Also, ask the Hindus of Kerala and other areas to stop eating beef before you go chasing Muslims.
 
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Please try and make an effort, again, you have only made a statement, personal opinion and nothing else, qualify your statement with a "why" you think that is so.

While you think of something worthwhile to add to your statement, allow me to blow your bubble.

Christians created their own identity, Christian is called a Christian because that is how they identify themselves.
Muslims also created their own identity, a Muslim is called a Muslim because that is how they identify themselves.

A Hindu is called a Hindu because foreigners created a name to identify a group of people because they did not have an identity of their own because none existed. You are a fantasy, a figment of your imagination.

Your parents named you whatever your name is, you are not given a name by a stranger, nor do people identify themselves by a name created by someone else. The supreme qualification for identity is that it has to be self-created, self-identified.

The Arabs referred to the Europeans as the Franks, the Europeans do not call themselves Franks because they have a real identity of their own. Europe was ruled by the Romans for hundreds of years and yet they are not known as the Romans, because, they have an identity of their own. There are a lot of examples, do some reading.

Now please, wake up and leave this Hindu, Indian and whatever other fantasy you are stuck in, it is actually you who have no identity, you are not real.

Whilst you are thinking this over, go and convince your Tamils and other groups to accept Hindi before you go shouting about other people. Also, ask the Hindus of Kerala and other areas to stop eating beef before you go chasing Muslims.

To first qualify as a single entity, you have to operate and act like a single entity.

The Christians are a lot closer and older at thst than you.

But are still multiple entities on the brass tacks that make the world go around.

The Hindus of the world make a nation. One people. And act as one.

They are an independent entity.

When you say Hindu, you think India.

When you say Christian or Muslim,what do you think?
 
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I am loving it when stunted growth Sanghi's are getting winded up, end of the day its only a drama, but I guess haters like Hood boys and Sanghi's can't take the fact that Ertugral is a massive hit.
 
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To first qualify as a single entity, you have to operate and act like a single entity.

The Christians are a lot closer and older at thst than you.

But are still multiple entities on the brass tacks that make the world go around.

The Hindus of the world make a nation. One people. And act as one.

They are an independent entity.

When you say Hindu, you think India.

When you say Christian or Muslim,what do you think?


You made no sense what-so-ever. Discuss facts, not your fantasies, you are embarrassing yourself.

Please go and do some reading before talking with me, I don't have time for your fantasies, I prefer to deal with facts.
 
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To first qualify as a single entity, you have to operate and act like a single entity.

The Christians are a lot closer and older at thst than you.

But are still multiple entities on the brass tacks that make the world go around.

The Hindus of the world make a nation. One people. And act as one.

They are an independent entity.

When you say Hindu, you think India.

When you say Christian or Muslim,what do you think?

Long-winded and useless way of saying Hindus are restricted to the bowels of the Ganga while Muslims and Christians are spread across the planet.
 
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Long-winded and useless way of saying Hindus are restricted to the bowels of the Ganga while Muslims and Christians are spread across the planet.

Muslims on PDF getting defensive notwithstanding, I shall continue to drive home my point.

It's about identity and unified purpose and impact. Not spread.

Wherever the Christians have real impact, they are recognisable as a single unified entity.

America. A Christian nation. A Christian identity and people.

Israel. Nothing in numbers. Compared to the spread over the world Muslims.

But single identity. And impact more than 1.8 billion Muslims worldwide.

Hindus 1 billion. A single nation. Soon to be on the high table with the Christians and the Chinese.

Impact.

Unity of identity and purpose.
 
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Wherever the Christians have real impact, they are recognisable as a single unified entity.

America. A Christian nation. A Christian identity and people.

I can quote you on this very page saying that Christians aren't a distinct geopolitical entity. You're growing senile.
 
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I can quote you on this very page saying that Christians aren't a distinct geopolitical entity. You're growing senile.

Your intellect is stunted.

Yes there is no such thing as a Christian. Just as there is no such thing as a Muslim.

Among the Christian swarm, those who actually have impact are the Americans and the Russians.

Single identity. Single purpose. Single action. Single effect.

The same with Hindus. India.

Jews. Israel.

Chinese. China.

When anyone in the world says Muslim, what image is conjured up?

One of a single entity?

Power?

Impact?

I think the answers have been staring you guys in the face for a long time.
 
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Yes there is no such thing as a Christian. Just as there is no such thing as a Muslim.

Among the Christian swarm, those who actually have impact are the Americans and the Russians.

You must be having a stroke right now or something because you've contradicted yourself thrice now, all on the same page within a few minutes. At your age, it's better to use what mental faculties you have left on controlling your bowels and leaving the Hindu shupa pawa talk to the younger BIMARU bucks.
 
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You must be having a stroke right now or something because you've contradicted yourself thrice now, all on the same page within a few minutes.

I think you conceded two posts ago when you did not counter my points and resorted to ad honinems like your Muslim friend beagle before you.
 
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I think you conceded two posts ago when you did not counter my points and resorted to ad honinems like your Muslim friend before you.

I'm not conceding to your points and I'm not using ad-hominems because this isn't an argument. Endlessly rambling isn't called making an argument.
 
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I'm not conceding to your points and I'm not using ad-hominems because this isn't an argument. Endlessly rambling isn't called making an argument.

Ok.

Come back to me if some intellect floating around hits you accidentally in the face.
 
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