Current state of PDF - Nostalgia of an Indian Member

[Sine Nomine]

Sorry, I didn't understand. Please elaborate.

Means if anyone can be a TTA,you should never be one.

 

[jamahir]

Means if anyone can be a TTA,you should never be one.

But why can't I be a TTA ??

 

[fitpOsitive]

I first visited PDF by around 2010-11, lurked for around 4 yrs before officially joining in 2015. It was quite a bit of fun as well as rewarding experience debating, arguing and even trolling sometimes.

At the same time though i hate to say it, community in PDF also influenced my opinions about Pakistanis in general as it is one of the few forums where I could interact with them though majority of them here seem to expats. As times changed, current affairs were variable and the direction PDF as a forum took also changed significantly.

PDF went from being an international forum with free exchange of news, ideas and opinions to one biased in favor of Pakistanis by the time I started commenting and it was in mid 2018 that it went to being a purely domestic forum populated by Pakistani narrative and tolerant exclusively to it.

I am sure all members be it Pakistani, Indian, American, European, Turkish or even Chinese have noticed this. As long as discussion in the forum is not against the domestic Pakistani Narrative, it is tolerated otherwise excluded emphatically so in case of us Indians.

Now there is nothing wrong in it, every forum has the right to decide the audience it caters to but at the same time for us Indian members it is a source of loss as we have have mostly lost a place to engage with Pakistanis with dignity.

The funny thing is that if Forum Administration was gunning for members and advertising revenue (my assumption) the new direction has had the opposite effect.

Well thats it for me, I will continue lurking and hope things turn for better here and I would have an opportunity to engage in fruitful discussions once again with my neighbors.

I solicit everyone's comment on this without hypocrisy or bias, I am fully aware that as a guest I have no right to impose but for old time's sake let's have an honest discussion about direction PDF is taking. I hope mods would tolerate this thread.

Ciao

@Joe Shearer @Oscar @Horus @Levina @Nilgiri @Imran Khan @Beast @Hellfire @scorpionx @jbgt90 @WAJsal @waj @VCheng

@Oscar @Dubious @waz
He has a point. And will say, let people little more liberation. If learned Troll comes, and let us study little more to rebuttal the false arguments. So overall I support his point.

 

[VCheng]

Liar PDF is love, PDF is life!!

Not really. Once upon a time, I used to participate actively and cared about the quality of the forum and where it was headed. No longer.

 

[WAJsal]

I haven't paid much attention to any of them but PDF stands on place today where taking out few posters can easily take sancity out of forum.

In terms of moderation, this is the best we can do. Or just hire full time mods if that helps. I think Chinese mods are missing or else they did a great job in their section.

Not really. Once upon a time, I used to participate actively and cared about the quality of the forum and where it was headed. No longer.

Quality or not you are aboard that's what matters. Need more sensible folks like you.
Cheers

 

[VCheng]

Quality or not you are aboard that's what matters. Need more sensible folks like you.
Cheers

I am just along for the ride, mostly as a spectator.


(Being sensible is a distinct liability in an echochamber overrun by rabid zealobots.)

 

[WAJsal]

I am just along for the ride, mostly as a spectator.


(Being sensible is a distinct liability in an echochamber overrun by rabid zealobots.)

You make more post in one day than I make in weeks, you are here, you are very much active. Again that's what matters. Need to attract more members of your caliber.

Being sensible is a distinct liability in an echochamber overrun by rabid zealobots

Some sense in all this mess is keeping this place intact, won't you agree?

 

[Daghalodi]

We Pakistanis understand what you are trying to convey and about losing interest in PDF.

The desperation and obsession of Indians with Pakistan is so high they will NEVER stop coming to PDF.

 

[Dubious]

@Oscar @Dubious @waz
He has a point. And will say, let people little more liberation. If learned Troll comes, and let us study little more to rebuttal the false arguments. So overall I support his point.

Learned people don't troll

Rebutting the false arguments is supported by the forum

 

[jamahir]

Means if anyone can be a TTA,you should never be one.

I think I understood what you said.

Do you mean if anybody can be a TTA then there's no point in desiring to be one as it would not reflect actual qualification ??

 

[fitpOsitive]

Learned people don't troll

Rebutting the false arguments is supported by the forum

point taken.

 

[VCheng]

You make more post in one day than I make in weeks, you are here, you are very much active. Again that's what matters. Need to attract more members of your caliber.

Some sense in all this mess is keeping this place intact, won't you agree?

Those are some nice words, but how do such words in public compare to actual actions of the management: preemptive banning from certain threads, totally schizoid moderation including going around telling members not to engage with such "sensible members" because they are to be regarded as trolls, knee-jerk negative ratings, violating privacy multiple times, the list goes on and on.

If I care I would complain. Now I just accept the state of affairs and move on. That alone should tell anyone what is really going on here on PDF as a microcosm of the whole country.

And, as I say, it is all good since management have the absolute right to run their forum as they see fit. We all can see the the results, both here, and in the country that it claims to represent.

Is that too honest or do you agree?

 

[WAJsal]

Those are some nice words, but how do such words in public compare to actual actions of the management: preemptive banning from certain threads, totally schizoid moderation including going around telling members not to engage with such "sensible members" because they are to be regarded as trolls, knee-jerk negative ratings, violating privacy multiple times, the list goes on and on.

That's ones subjective opinion, a wise man knows the opinion of others doesn't matter, he needs to stick to his beliefs. Kudos to you for that.

And, as I say, it is all good since management have the absolute right to run their forum as they see fit. We all can see the the results, both here, and in the country that it claims to represent.

Agreed, things take time. We're getting there, at least we are on the right path..
'The sun will shine on us again.'

 

[VCheng]

That's one subjective opinion, a wise man knows the opinion of others doesn't matter, he needs to stick to his beliefs. Kudos to you for that.

Agreed, things take time. We're getting there, at least we are on the right path..
'The sun will shine on us again.'

I sincerely wish PDF the best of luck. The sun will indeed shine, once the clouds I described above are cleared, if ever.

 

[xyxmt]

@Spectre
If you haven't noticed things are changing around the world people are becoming more nationalists than ever before. This forum represent the diverse audience even from Pakistan and although nationalists are more in numbers now specially after PTI win but you still find quite a large number who poses a different view and even you will find Pakistani members supporting India.