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No, I don't. I read it many years ago. I should have saved it.Any links or name of that piece?
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No, I don't. I read it many years ago. I should have saved it.Any links or name of that piece?
Quran has mentioned no method of setting up a govt.
Allama Iqbal wrote a master piece related to propagation of Islam and role of sufism in sub-continent. When you have time read it , it covered the history.
Holy Prophet was Arab and propagation was done among Arabs. So there is no point of culture blending in that case. Plus, if you read the quean. Where a dialogue has been quoted between Arabs vs Christians and Jews about dis respecting prophets. I don't know what changes are brought now. But, I look at Rumi, Ali-Hawari names, rest are cashing these names to earn money in this age.
majority of us and me...failed to understand the depth of mysticism
Look, I get my information from sources. I do not dabble in youtube videos.
This is not said by Eng.Muhammad Ali Mirza.These are your words.They are basically Hindus who converted, but still wanted to relieve their psychological need for going to a temple and worship something tangible.
True. The very first page of Kashf-Al-Mahjoub contains a lament about impostors claiming to be Sufis & swindling people. Writing of Kashf was exactly an attempt to let people know what is Sufism & how it is anchored in Quran & Sunnah. Hazrat Ali bin Usman Al-Hijvairy was an Aalim & it shows in his mastery of the subject. It also warns readers and tells them how to avoid pitfalls. Fore example, he warned very sternly any aspirants to desist from lusting after political power. This is how I was well grounded in my opinion to avoid & resist TLP. They were doing something that was warned about, never mind how much they appealed to Sufi teachings.Allama Iqbal wrote a master piece related to propagation of Islam and role of sufism in sub-continent. When you have time read it , it covered the history.
Holy Prophet was Arab and propagation was done among Arabs. So there is no point of culture blending in that case. Plus, if you read the quean. Where a dialogue has been quoted between Arabs vs Christians and Jews about dis respecting prophets. I don't know what changes are brought now. But, I look at Rumi, Ali-Hawari names, rest are cashing these names to earn money in this age.
Brother sufi-ism isnt Islam ------.
Afaik you also said shias are pretty much not Muslims nowadaysExactly, sufi-ism is a farce and has nothing to do with Islam what so ever.
Afaik you also said shias are pretty much not Muslims nowadays
This hardcore tafiryat must stop, Sufi-ism has nothing to do with Islam
Period? It's such a blanket statement
Knowing fully well that during ibn Tamiyas time majority of the people in Arab/Syria/Muslim world had some sort of relationship with Sufism
They were all out of Islam?
Exactly, sufi-ism is a farce and has nothing to do with Islam what so ever.
I agree with what you saying. But Sufism is not religion, it is just a state of mind where soul leaves your body and heart and mind become slave of Allah. It's how you see this universe and understand. We are not talking about followers, that is a different subject. Tasawwuf has deep roots in Muslim world, central Asia, North Africa, Middle East, Sub-continent, and beyond.Plz read the Prophet's Saww letter to cyrus to reach the depths of occult-----,
whom he was warning about whom and how those being warned about conspired and executed their age old tricks against Ali in Siffin, hiding behind Syrian forces .
I agree with what you saying. But Sufism is not religion, it is just a state of mind where soul leaves your body and heart and mind become slave of Allah. It's how you see this universe and understand. We are not talking about followers, that is a different subject. Tasawwuf has deep roots in Muslim world, central Asia, North Africa, Middle East, Sub-continent, and beyond.
The Sunni of the 4 madhabs recognize Sufis as their own, but only if they act according to Junaid Al-Baghdadi’s teachings. Ahmad at-Tayeb (head of Al-Azhar university) stated it, and it’s accepted by most Sunni scholars.
- Ahmad Ibn Hambal, after he met Hamzah al-Baghdadi, said to his son: “My son, I recommend the company of these people, they surpassed us in science, in observance, in fear of God and in asceticism” Tanwîr Al-Qulûb, by Al-Kurdi.
- Ash-Shafi’i said “I accompanied the Sufis, I only learned from them two words (and according to another narration: only three words). Their affirmation: time is like a saber, if you do not slice it, it will cut you off. And their affirmation: if you do not occupy your mind with the truth, it will occupy you with error. And their word: deprivation is a protection.” Ta’yid al-haqiqah al-aliyyah, by Suyuti.
- Al-Malik said “Whoever learns Fiqh (jurisprudence) without being initiated into Tasawwuf falls into perversion. And anyone who initiates Tasawwuf without being initiated into Fiqh falls into heresy. Whoever combines the two reaches the Truth.” Haqaiq an at-tasawwuf, By Abd-Al-Qadir Isa.
- As for the Hanafi madhab, most of them would share the view of Hasan Ali Nadwi, who wanted a reform of sufism to go back to… lots of examples
- Current example
Hambali :Abdul Qadir Jilani a hambali jurist and Scholar a leader of Sufism
Hanafi:Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti great leader of Sufism
Shafi: Sheikh Abubakar Ahmed Grand mufti of India follower of Sufism
Maliki: Ali Gomaa previous grand Mufti of Egypt and Ahmed Al Tayyeb grand Imam of Al Azhar mosque are Sufi
I have given the selected example of Great Islamic scholar who are highly appreciated and followed by the Muslim Society, All are having the great fan follow up and also consider as the Brilliant Scholar of their time and they are all sufis- exist here .......
it is just a state of mind where soul leaves your body
Afaik you also said shias are pretty much not Muslims nowadays
This hardcore tafiryat must stop, Sufi-ism has nothing to do with Islam
Period? It's such a blanket statement
Knowing fully well that during ibn Tamiyas time majority of the people in Arab/Syria/Muslim world had some sort of relationship with Sufism
They were all out of Islam?
The person in the video literally talks from "sources" like Quran and Sunnah. That is one of the main reason why he became so immensely popular, to a point that he has become the most followed religious personality on the social media in the world. If you do not want to "entertain" an attempt of a person citing sources in a VIDEO FORMAT, and insist that a YouTube video can't help with "sources", then you might be underestimating how much a teacher can do on this medium. Each and every sentence that comes out of the mouth of the man in the video, is referenced from Quran, Sunnah, and Ahadith (as in the number of Ayah, and Hadith is literally displayed on the screen). Furthermore, if you want to learn more about YOUR "source" aka Kashf ul Mahjoob, you might want to search it up and see what Ali Mirza has to say about it. But I assume it would be below your dignity to even watch the video.Look, I get my information from sources. I do not dabble in youtube videos.
You've responded like this precisely because you do not know & do not understand the roots of Sufism. I refuse to entertain your attempt at a (non)conservation if this is how you are going to carry on.