COAS Qamar Javed Bajwa Last Address | 23 November 2022

[SaadH]

Let us not forget who gave Gen Bajwa the three year extension.

Mir Bajwa herself

He fed bollywood to Generation Z and Millennials leading them to believe in sem2sem LOLLL

The only reason why pak diaspora is obsessed with early 2000s bollywood movies is because of Musharraf.

Poori qom ko khusra bana Kar chala gaya

 

[TheSolution]

Well, Ultimately it's a good thing in the long run. Before they could do no wrong whether it was missing persons or beating up an odd journalist. Now it's a situation of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" for the army. And I am afraid it's not going to change anytime soon due to the looming economic collapse.

The best thing now would be to keep your head down and weather the storm of ignominy and abuse because reacting in any situation will just provide opportunities to the already desperately angry masses and it could get out of hand if not handled subtly.

Some of the journalists in Pakistan need beatings ngl, a lot of them sympathise with terror outfits publicly

 

[imadul]

Honestly, I didn't watch him crying.

The way he has conducted himself and how he has been trolled and blackmailed in his last days in office, it is a lesson for all of us. We have all seen how pressurised he has been feeling from left and right. All the increase in his immediate family's wealth, and all the power on which he has/had banked on, couldn't buy him any respect. This guy will be remembered as the most hated person (beating Yahya Khan) in the history of the institution. And what he has done to the institution, it is almost impossible to fix it. The institution will have to live with it for a long time to come, at least not during the next couple of generations.

May all the corrupt, usurpers, cruel killers, and liars face the wrath of Allah SWT in this life and hereafter.

Yahya was a baby as compared to this jackal traitor.
Yahya was mostly drunk and did not know what's going on.
This hyena had diverted ISI under Nadeem anjum to kill IK, silence and bribe media, going after social media activists, kidnap and assasinate journalists.
List is so long.
This hyena has to be hanged. Noose

 

[kingQamaR]

Ok if you think a clean and halal way was used which was constitutional also, then maybe IK wouldn't need Military's support to to come in power.

Army must not prop up anyone anymore politically….anyone asking for army help in politics should be named and shamed no exceptions. Maybe Pakistan still has a chance

 

[FuturePAF]

Ok if you think a clean and halal way was used which was constitutional also, then maybe IK wouldn't need Military's support to to come in power.

A “halal” option is not available to any party, which is why the whole nation is watching who becomes the army chief. If you don’t feel that way, IMHO, a lot of the electorate on ALL sides feels/perceives it that way.

The thing about IK, is that he is the best our system has produced. It’s the closest thing to good governance people have seen. Don’t believe my words, just look at the following RAND study. Pakistan is crying out for good governance and positive economics. For that very reason, many people didn’t care when martial law was imposed, figuring at least the economy will be stable.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR600/RR644/RAND_RR644.pdf

“
There Are No Game-Changers on the Horizon
PML-N and PPP remain basically the same parties they have been for decades, and neither shows any sign of making significant ideological changes. Whether one of them emerges as a truly dominant, enduring force (rather than merely the lesser of two evils in the eyes of Pakistani voters) will depend not on ideology but on whether it is consistently able to deliver concrete results (electricity, education, jobs, physical security) to a critical mass of the electorate.

The X-Factor in the Equation Is Popular Demand for Governance
There is a deep hunger throughout the Pakistani electorate for some- thing more than the current choices. The two most recent attempts to fill this vacuum have been the PTI and the “Long March” by the
Lessons for the Future 55

56 Drivers of Long-Term Insecurity and Instability in Pakistan: Urbanization
cleric Muhammad Tahir-ul Qadri. The first is a party led by a long- time London sybarite and, in the nearly two decades prior to 2013, managed to elect exactly one member of parliament. The second was a short-lived protest movement, led by a cleric of dual Canadian-****- stani citizenship, that has never elected even a single member.1 The fact that Pakistani citizens have been drawn to such improbable figures— and the fact that Imran Khan’s party garnered 16.7 percent of the vote in the May 2013 elections—demonstrates the depth of popular alien- ation from the two established parties.
This hunger for good governance is an issue for rural and urban voters alike. From the smallest hamlet in Baltistan right up to the teem- ing streets of Karachi, most Pakistani citizens have little faith in their political leaders. The percentage of Pakistanis who ascribe “somewhat good” or “very good” influence for Pakistan to the national govern- ment has declined dramatically since Pew began asking the question in 2002 (see Figure 6.1).2 Additionally, the percentage of Pakistanis who perceive corruption of political leaders as a major problem has increased from a vast majority in 2002 to near universal consensus in more recent years (see Figure 6.2).
Few Pakistanis would argue with the proposition that politi- cians of all stripes have failed to address the basic issues of governance (see Figures 6.1 and 6.2), but patterns of urbanization give this near- universal sentiment an added saliency. As Pakistan’s voters increasingly congregate in densely packed and information-saturated urban envi- ronments, they will become increasingly unwilling to accept unsatis- factory performance from their leaders.”

 

[Vasher]

Now, would you want such a dumb incompetent PM to lead Pakistan who doesn't know what is happening around him, under his nose ?

Now we have had Chief Cunning masters like Zardari and look where that got us.

The following are todays headlines :

1. COAS appointment: Zardari's suggestion to be on number one, says Asif (The news)
2. Imran Khan claims President Alvi will seek his advice on key appointment (The news)
3. PM Shahbaz receives full support from coalition partners on COAS, CJCSC appointments (The news)

This is the prerogative of Political parties those in power can appoint COAS under the constitution and those in opposition will obviously push back. How is it dragging the military into politics?

Instead of blaming everything under the sun on the civilians and justifying past failures with even more excuses, the COAS should have just made a speech about shuhada.

 

[SIPRA]

Army must not prop up anyone anymore politically….anyone asking for army help in politics should be named and shamed no exceptions. Maybe Pakistan still has a chance

Pakistan Army would never ever get out of the politics, rather it can't; unless some disastrous catastrophe falls on it, in form of some formidable internal revolt, severe public uprising, or a crushing defeat, from an enemy. A peaceful transformation is close to impossible.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

History will remember him as the worst COAS after Yayha khan. I don't expect him to stay in Pakistan for long. He has left Pakistan in a very bad shape with serious political turmoil, dampening economy and rise in militancy.

 

[GriffinsRule]

This would be a perfect clip for the stupid and funny thread as well

 

[SaadH]

Pakistan Army would never ever get out of the politics, rather it can't; unless some disastrous catastrophe falls on it, in form of some formidable internal revolt, severe public uprising, or a crushing defeat, from an enemy. A peaceful transformation is close to impossible.

100% that's why IK's political career was over the day he uttered "absolutely not" and colonial sepoys won't let him come back to power now.

 

[SIPRA]

100% that's why IK's political career was over the day he uttered "absolutely not" and colonial sepoys won't let him come back to power now.

History tells us that powerful negative forces never go by peaceful means. They need to be defeated by force.

 

[Enigma SIG]

If Bajwa meddled in politics to bring IK in power, then IK is equally responsible for taking part in anti-constitutional steps for claiming power as PM.

That makes Imran Khan a criminal.

Han theek hai.

Bajwa is a criminal then you agree?

 

[GriffinsRule]

Outgoing Pakistan Army Chief Admits Involvement in Politics

General Qamar Javed Bajwa, who is due to retire next week, made admission in nationally televised address to families of fallen soldiers at military headquarters in garrison city of Rawalpindi

www.voanews.com

Some highlights from the article.


Islamabad —
Pakistan’s outgoing military chief acknowledged Wednesday that decades of “unconstitutional” interference in national politics by his powerful institution had periodically exposed it to public criticism...

...“I would take Bajwa’s plea for the Army to get out of politics with many grains of salt,” said Michael Kugelman, the director of South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center in Washington.


“The institution has been so entrenched in Pakistan’s political fabric for so long, that it would be well nigh impossible to engineer such a sharp shift,” he said in written comments to VOA. “Not to mention, in the immediate term, the next army chief will likely be viewed as a key actor to help reduce the tensions between the government and Imran Khan, in order to reduce political instability.”...

...
Bajwa wealth investigation

On Sunday, an online investigative news portal FactFocus published a story about the accumulation of wealth and property worth nearly $56 million by Bajwa’s family members since he took office six years ago. The news outlet shared confidential tax documents to substantiate its claims. It alleged that the general’s relatives had exponentially expanded their domestic and foreign property as well as businesses.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

So Asim Muneer to be next COAS

 

[SIPRA]

Outgoing Pakistan Army Chief Admits Involvement in Politics

General Qamar Javed Bajwa, who is due to retire next week, made admission in nationally televised address to families of fallen soldiers at military headquarters in garrison city of Rawalpindi

www.voanews.com

Some highlights from the article.


Islamabad —
Pakistan’s outgoing military chief acknowledged Wednesday that decades of “unconstitutional” interference in national politics by his powerful institution had periodically exposed it to public criticism...

...“I would take Bajwa’s plea for the Army to get out of politics with many grains of salt,” said Michael Kugelman, the director of South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center in Washington.


“The institution has been so entrenched in Pakistan’s political fabric for so long, that it would be well nigh impossible to engineer such a sharp shift,” he said in written comments to VOA. “Not to mention, in the immediate term, the next army chief will likely be viewed as a key actor to help reduce the tensions between the government and Imran Khan, in order to reduce political instability.”...

...
Bajwa wealth investigation

On Sunday, an online investigative news portal FactFocus published a story about the accumulation of wealth and property worth nearly $56 million by Bajwa’s family members since he took office six years ago. The news outlet shared confidential tax documents to substantiate its claims. It alleged that the general’s relatives had exponentially expanded their domestic and foreign property as well as businesses.

This scoundrel Mir Bajwa is straightway speaking lies upon lies, and, I believe, that he has no other option. He has committed so many crimes that, now, lies and deception are his only choice.