Can the PLA Navy Make the Indian Ocean Chinese?

[yantong1980]

Typical MSM, no wonder, the article "aura" will different if it about US navy or British navy.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

The idiotic thing, apart from the cheerleading from the Pakistanis, I dont think Chinese themselves want to "control" IOR. They know it themselves, and they are not going to let an market of 1.3 billion out of their hands.

And Gwadar will most likely be an commercial port and PN base. China has not given an single statement about stationing their fleets there other than for refueling. In case of war, but never mind. There is not going to be one. As year goes by we are going to get only stronger.

 

[Tipu7]

JMSDF and IN already started their modernization drive .
USN will also there .

Of course USN will also increase its presence there.....

 

[SrNair]

The idiotic thing, apart from the cheerleading from the Pakistanis, I dont think Chinese themselves want to "control" IOR. They know it themselves, and they are not going to let an market of 1.3 billion out of their hands.

And Gwadar will most likely be an commercial port and PN base. China has not given an single statement about stationing their fleets there other than for refueling. In case of war, but never mind. There is not going to be one. As year goes by we are going to get only stronger.

In fact even though they are a huge economical power ,its military is still try to cope with that money power .Means they need at least two decade to convert that economy for optimum fruition of military .But now they also knows that is too late Because IN also started their modernization with much thrust .
According to our DM we will have 30 subs in 2030 .You know 30 various subs and 200 + several warships in IOR .Chinese cant watch both SCS and IOR at same time.

 

[Providence]

USN with it's indian ocean naval base wouldn't let that happen !

 

[SrNair]

Of course USN will also increase its presence there.....

USN and JMSDF will be in SCS .
In IOR it will be Indian Navy .

 

[Tipu7]

USN and JMSDF will be in SCS .
In IOR it will be Indian Navy .

United States navy will be on both fronts.....
They will increase their presence in Arabian sea...... and May increase number of drills with Indian navy...... but it will be as a response of type of military actions PLAN will have in the region......

 

[SrNair]

USN with it's indian ocean naval base wouldn't let that happen !

Diego Garcia is in southern part of Indian Ocean .
We are talking about the immediate neighbourhood part of our peninsular India where we have trade routes .
That area is almost under the control of IN .

United States navy will be on both fronts.....
They will increase their presence in Arabian sea...... and May increase number of drills with Indian navy...... but it will be as a response of type of military actions PLAN will have in the region......

Of Course they will be in IOR in fact they are already in there .But thy need to concentrate 60% of their assets in East Asia .So it would become our responsibility to control IOR .

 

[SmilingBuddha]

With a 2000 km Anti ship missile in the making..well good luck to them

 

[Providence]

With a 2000 km Anti ship missile in the making..well good luck to them

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[AMCA]

Not before the Indian Navy makes the South China Sea an Indian Territory.

 

[windywine]

Diego Garcia is in southern part of Indian Ocean .
We are talking about the immediate neighbourhood part of our peninsular India where we have trade routes .
That area is almost under the control of IN .




Of Course they will be in IOR in fact they are already in there .But thy need to concentrate 60% of their assets in East Asia .So it would become our responsibility to control IOR .

Before 2012, US had already deployed around 50% of assets in ASIA Pacific region. 60% is just additional 10%, no big deal to US.

 

[Deino]

IMO the whole issue is again pushed by the media and some certain "circles" who wish to achieve some certain political goals by "fear-mongering" !

Why should CHina make the Indian ocean a Chinese one ??? There's no need ... as long as the lines of traffic are open and all Chinese ships can pass thru that part without any problems. Given China's ambitions there will surely be a higher PLN-presence in that area but surely not more than the US Navy is playing its games - officially to confirm FON - in the SCS.

Deino

 

[SrNair]

Before 2012, US had already deployed around 50% of assets in ASIA Pacific region. 60% is just additional 10%, no big deal to US.

We dont care .We only cares about our turf.

 

[Zhang Fan]

A recent Wikistrat simulation (full disclosure: I am a senior analyst with Wikistrat, although I did not work on this project) investigated the future of the People’s Liberation Army-Navy. In particular, the report (written by David K. Schneider) examined China’s effort to establish control over the East Asian littoral (A2/AD and amphibious capabilities) and to establish a presence in the Indian Ocean.

Readers of The Diplomat will recognize familiar notes in the report’s discussion of the PLAN’s A2/AD efforts. The more interesting question evoked by Schneider is this: Can the PLAN make the Indian Ocean Chinese? Chinese growth depends on access to the Indian Ocean, from whence the PRC gets much of its energy and a large proportion of its natural resources. China has spent much of its economic and diplomatic capital on building relationships in the region, from Pakistan to Africa. However, the Indian Navy has the capacity to pose a critical threat to Chinese access. With a large fleet and local bases, India can threaten Chinese control of the Indian Ocean at its leisure.

The report also examined China’s relationship with Russia, which remains important for access to technology and expertise. Traditionally the junior partner in this relationship, the increasing size, sophistication, and range of the PLAN should tip the scales in the next few years. Schneider also emphasized the role that political coordination between Moscow and Beijing could improve the PLAN’s prospects for strategic action.

Perhaps most interesting, the report identifies several key caveats that underlie China’s effort to build a world-class navy. These include the health of long-term collaboration with Russia, the ability of the Chinese national innovation system to deliver advanced technology, the overall health of the Chinese economy, and the ability of the Chinese Communist Party and the PLAN to work well with one another. Of these, the first and the third pose the greatest concern; significant economic problems could severely crimp China’s effort at naval expansion, and a deterioration (for whatever reason) of relations with Russia would leave China in a very, very lonely place.

To this I would add the inherent positionality of naval affairs. The power of China’s navy depends directly on the strength of its competitors. If Chinese naval growth continues to inspire India, Japan, and the Southeast Asian countries to expand their own fleets, then Beijing has spent a lot of money for little relative gain. Although the comparison between the PRC and Wilhelmine Germany has been overdone, it’s nevertheless worth noting that Germany built a remarkable fleet that succeeded only in creating enemies, and in spurring foreign naval construction.

Can the PLA Navy Make the Indian Ocean Chinese? | The Diplomat

Sigh.....India is begging for limelight of the world by associating itself with China