BLOOMBERG: TURKEY WILL PAY FOR ABANDONING THE KURDS

[Alienoz_TR]

Turn you in to Iran, version 2.0? (worst case scenario here)

You do what!? Dont get high. Falling off may hurt.

 

[al-Hasani]

Kirkuk, Irbil, Mosul and all that area around there belongs to Turkey. Plain and simple!

Once ISIS kicks the crapper out of these morons, Turkey can finally liberate all these areas for herself............

I am sorry but a few hundred years of Ottoman rule where most locals were Iraqi Arabs anyway and other native Semitic peoples (Assyrians and Chaldeans) does not make those cities Turkmen.

Those are ancient cities founded by our Semitic ancestors or Arabs. Some are 8000 years old. Turkmens were obviously not even present in the ME back then. They are recent people. Anyway Turkmens do indeed inhabit Kirkuk but they are only the third biggest ethnic group after the Kurds and Arabs. Kirkuk is Iraqi so is Mosul and Arbil originally as well despite being occupied by Kurdish migrants from Northwestern Iran or God know's where they came from.

Guess what more? Arabs and Turkmens cooperate together against the Kurds that occupy Kirkuk.

@1000 can confirm what I tell. His family is from Kirkuk.

No need to make any animosity between Arabs and Turkmen. They work together all over Iraq and relations are good. Many marry each other. @1000 is an example of this. Just because you hate the 500 million Arabs as a Pashtun does not mean that there is a problem between Arabs or Turks. There is not.

KSA hosts a indigenous Turkish community of 300.000 people in Hijaz and the user @Mosamania is partially Turkish too. My family (Makkawi Hashemites) have also married Turkish women in previous generations. There are a few well-known families in KSA of Turkish origin also, mainly based in Hijaz.

Likewise the Arabs of Turkey are a part of Turkey. Erdogans wife is an Turkish-Arab. The well-known footballer Hakan Sas too and others. All are well-integrated and relations are good.

In Iran a country supposedly ruled by Iranian Arabs, Arabs are oppressed heavily and live very bad despite living in the richest area of Iran (Arabistan and Al-Ahwaz) and the most historic (Elam). Iranian Arabs despite all hardships are still known as some of the most hospitable people in Iran. Even notoriously and fiercely anti-Arab PressTV has reported this. Arabs in Iranian are regularly murdered by the regime for no apparent reason while Iranians enjoy life in the GCC unharmed. This is uncalled for.

 

[MarkusS]

You do what!? Dont get high. Falling off may hurt.

If the EU sanctions Turkey the way it sanctions Iran, them Turkey would be a dead duck. its that simple. turkey has not much friends left.

 

[Declein]

You do what!? Dont get high. Falling off may hurt.

Listen, if Kobani fells and the TV's channels all over the world will show pyramids of heads chopped by those retards from ISIS (especially those women from PKK and civilians), a great deal of people will hold you responsible since you didn't stop it. No matter how much you complain and biker about the Kurds, it won't change that view.
And public opinion is a bitch, especially in the West. You'd be a fool to underestimate it's importance.

 

[Hyperion]

Dude. You think way too much about what I write sometimes. Take a hint!

I am sorry but a few hundred years of Ottoman rule where most locals were Iraqi Arabs anyway and other native Semitic peoples (Assyrians and Chaldeans) does not make those cities Turkmen.

Those are ancient cities founded by our Semitic ancestors or Arabs. Some are 8000 years old. Turkmens were obviously not even present in the ME back then. They are recent people. Anyway Turkmens do indeed inhabit Kirkuk but they are only the third biggest ethnic group after the Kurds and Arabs. Kirkuk is Iraqi so is Mosul and Arbil originally as well despite being occupied by Kurdish migrants from Northwestern Iran or God know's where they came from.

Guess what more? Arabs and Turkmens cooperate together against the Kurds that occupy Kirkuk.

@1000 can confirm what I tell. His family is from Kirkuk.

No need to make any animosity between Arabs and Turkmen. They work together all over Iraq and relations are good. Many marry each other. @1000 is an example of this. Just because you hate the 500 million Arabs as a Pashtun does not mean that there is a problem between Arabs or Turks. There is not.

KSA hosts a indigenous Turkish community of 300.000 people in Hijaz and the user @Mosamania is partially Turkish too. My family (Makkawi Hashemites) have also married Turkish women in previous generations.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

If the EU sanctions Turkey the way it sanctions Iran, them Turkey would be a dead duck. its that simple. turkey has not much friends left.

I like those sanctions. EU sanction every state it doesnt like. Russia first, Turkey second. Whose pipe are you gonna suck next? I mean oilpipe gas pipe... No mean insult.

Listen, if Kobani fells and the TV's channels all over the world will show pyramids of heads chopped by those retards from ISIS (especially those women from PKK and civilians), a great deal of people will hold you responsible since you didn't stop it. No matter how much you complain and biker about the Kurds, it won't change that view.
And public opinion is a bitch, especially in the West. You'd be a fool to underestimate it's importance.

Yeah yeah. Write a complain letter to Jesus Christ.

 

[tesla]

If the EU sanctions Turkey the way it sanctions Iran, them Turkey would be a dead duck. its that simple. turkey has not much friends left.

loss of ukraine and turkey
WİTHOUT ENERGY AND OİLS EUROPA TURNS TO ...

 

[Declein]

energy
WİTHOUT ENERGY AND OİLS EUROPA TO ...

You and Alienoz severely underestimate what Europe can do if it's core interests are at stake..

 

[MarkusS]

WİTHOUT ENERGY AND OİLS EUROPA is turning to ...

well thanks god then that turkey in geeral does as we wish.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

You and Alienoz severely underestimate what Europe can do if it's core interests are at stake..

You severely overstate the power of Romania. You are freezing while we are swimming.

 

[tesla]

well fthanks god then that turkey in geeral does as we wish.

we have north ıraq and azerbaijan but firstly eu should controll energy ways .think ukraine

 

[atatwolf]

Allow me to disagree, the kind of publicity the Kurds are getting now only leads to one thing - the Kurd state. There's isn't, really, any other reason to put the Kurds on such a pedestal of virtue, they way they're put now, if it's not to support the creation of a new state,

No, I don't allow you to disagree. You don't know how strategy works. Publicity won't help you setting up a state. The west can do whatever publicity they want but if they cross the boundry they can kiss Turkey good bye as an ally and without Turkey, you can say good bye to KRG. Only revenues they get is from Turkish market.

Also Terrorist PKK Kurds in Syria are dying in front of everybody. How is publicity helping them. At the end the sword of islam has the last word. Even with all the air support they are loosing badly. They need boots on the ground. So to make it short. Kurdish independence is out of the question anywhere.

Also if PKK gets heavy weaponry from the west. NATO can kiss Turkey good bye as a partner. This is what will happen. They will be exterminated or agree to join FSA which is a Turkish proxy.

Kirkuk, Irbil, Mosul and all that area around there belongs to Turkey. Plain and simple!

Once ISIS kicks the crapper out of these morons, Turkey can finally liberate all these areas for herself............

Now you are talking

 

[usernameless]

It could be another way than helping the PKK or YPD.
Turkey could have intiated a kurd resistance with their military help/assistance ... so in the same time that they decrease the rule of PKK the world and the kurds especially would like it

doing nothing and let the IS be strong there is a terrible stupid strategic choice

And what will happen to those Kurdish fighters when isis is finished? We have seen a portion of fsa joined isis, which is dangerous. This help demand makes 0 sense for various reasons; there are almost no civilians left in ayn al arab, helping pyd/pkk is a no no, US said fall of ayn al arab is of no big concern etc. yet hdp/bdp expect Turkey to help pyd/pkk. What a joke.

 

[Declein]

You severely overstate the power of Romania. You are freezing while we are swimming.

Google if, ffs....Natural gas in Romania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia before opening your mouth. 85% of the consumption is local, which can be pushed to 100% without issues.We're the forth producers in Europe..
And out countries have very good relations, google that to, posting those kind of attacks because you don't agree with me is stupid (besides denoting that you're clueless)

 

[tesla]

romania is our ally. why are you debating.