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Actually, I should have abbreviated the BD Military Forum as BDMF. Sorry.wot is BDM ??
You are forgetting one fact sir,during war with Russia on 2008,Georgia shot down 3 Russian Su-25 and another bomber with this SAM system.Did the Georgians ask for Russian permission to shoot down Russian plane?
It is highly doubtful that BD military will accept Russian mercenaries for operating a SAM system.We are well capable of doing that.I have never heard BD operating with any foreign mercenaries.Our military's greatest strength since its formation,has been the ample supply of skilled military men.Although we never had very expensive toys,we always had skilled men.
Besides,we need SAM any way for air defence be it against India or Myanmar.And from the looks of things,it seems these purchase,if they are true,are targeted towards Myanmar.Its them who started the arm's race by buying 20 migs.
Besides,BUK M1-2 has a max. altitude of 14000m,whereas Su-30 MKI has a service ceiling of 17300 m.So with this,you can't catch Sukhois anyway,someone please correct me if my assessment is wrong.
The Burmese will not be defeated from the air or sea but by fighting its army which is several times stronger than ours and battle tested. What procurements have been made for the army?
The Burmese can be defeated from the air as well as the sea, on both of which we have an advantage....we have trainings/exercises from US navy every now and then....our SWAD members are trained by the ROK Seals, one of the best on Asia....moreover we always had numeric advantage in ships and more are to come soon....so you can do the math.....
Talking about air force, i am not sure about the numbers here and also have no confirmation about our recent procurements...but i think our skills make make the difference....
I am not sure of the army procurements as well....last time i read was about some tanks and APCs in procurement process...but not sure.....may be leon can help here....
And coming over to land, i agree that they have a far larger army....and that hey are tested....but according to me, look against whom have they been tested?? Some small minorities or groups of people, running around in sandals and shorts and someone who has taken a gun in his/her hand just for the sake of taking it??? Their army has never been tested against a professional counterpart like the BA....yes i am not blowing out the numeric advantage they have but we have a far skilled army.....i would like to mention a quote:-
"The human factor will decide the fate of war, of all wars. Not the Mirage, nor any other plane, and not the screwdriver, or the wrench or radar or missiles or all the newest technology and electronic innovations. Menand not just men of action, but men of thought. Men for whom the expression 'By ruses shall ye make war' is a philosophy of life, not just the object of lip service." IDF-AF commander Ezer Weizman : On Eagles' Wings
Cheers!!!
I also think the Burmese threat depends very much on how we deal with the Chinese. The Indian threat is altogether different.
I was never actually expelled from the forum. I never committed any offense in the forum. My IP address is automatically blacklisted by the forum management.
Leon bro,
What i feel is that if Buk-M1-2 is procured, it will be mainly for the Burmese getting those 20 Migs. I think, this procurement is exactly a counter-decision for that. Migs will be catchable with that operating height of 14000 m and according to my knowledge, it will be far cheaper than getting some fighters and thus can enjoy the numeric advantage. Yah, off course we need birds no doubt but i believe, buying these SAMs could be a short-term decision, just to counter the present threat.
But i dont understand why Migs will be bought, if they are ever bought, again? As you said earlier, it could be a package from Russia or may be, GoB is thinking on both sides. Need to wait and watch.
I was banned in the same way.Later on I came to know that they delete inactive members(not active for a month),its in their rules.You can find it if you go through the forum rules.
The main point is,they don't allow free member access to many sections related to BD defence and no viewing of pic is allowed.These guys are pure businessmen,they want people to subscribe to view and read.
If you want to view,then subscribe or just sit like many of us who were terminated from that forum.I don't see your case is different than any of us.
Even bd_4_ever probably got a similar ban..isn't it bro?
BTW,sorry MODs for talking about another forum.Let us get back to topic now.
I think we are exaggerating the Burmese threat while ignoring the Indian one. India remains a primary threat and Burma secondary.
I am not sure about my theory is correct or not.But if that's correct,then its not going to help us.
Mig-29s have a service ceiling higher than the Sukhois,although they won't necessarily be operating from that height all the time.They have a service ceiling of 18,013 m.
We need SAMs anyway,because we lack medium to long range SAMs.We at the current moment only have short range area air defence in the form of FM-90.That's not good enough at all.We need 5 layered air-defence,so we need to work on that.
I think its a package,the whole Nuke deal plus all these toys.But I can sense some politicians are actually the only benefactor of this package.Mig-29 definitely is an agile bird,but not suited to budget starving air force like ours.But these politicians are have their way of making money.