ASIA TO GAZA SOLIDARITY CARAVAN

[Jungibaaz]

Israel's approach to situation is just opposite to India's. No denying both have been failures. Kashmir does n't pay any tax to India and they get more than 8 times financial help than any other Indian state. India should become more stick with Kashmir and Israel should loosen a bit. A mix of carrot and stick approach should do for us both.

ok then plz give them independence, if their such a pain.
As for the carrot and stick, with Israel they show the carrot to the media and and the stick is in constant use behind the scenes.

 

[Nishan]

ok then plz give them independence, if their such a pain.
As for the carrot and stick, with Israel they show the carrot to the media and and the stick is in constant use behind the scenes.

Arab proverb says: Eating carrots strengthens the eyesight . . But it seems that the Western media have become blind and its eyes need surgery to cornea transplants

 

[Tuahaa]

Everyone can became a Jew. We just dont proselyte.

Then why are there 'half-jews'?

So much for that.

 

[500]

This comparison is very funny . . .What happened in Lebanon is Lebanese against Lebanese . . I mean Arabs against Arabs . . Such as the war in Afghanistan . .its Afghan against Afghan . . Such as the war in Somalia . . its Somali against Somali . . .In the Jenin it is between occupier and resistant . . Do you understand . . . unless you are worried about the souls of the Lebanese people more than the Lebanese themselves

So if Lebanese destroy the whole Palestinian camp just because someone robed Hariri's bank there - that fine, because both are Arabs. But if Israel destroys some houses in Jenin trying to catch suicide bombers - thats OUTRAGE. Basically you admit that allegations of cruelty is nothing but pretext, Israelis will be always bad to you because they are not Arabs.

As for "occupiers" and "resistance". As I just said, Israel entered in Jenin in 2002 because of suicide bombers which were comming out of there. However from 1967-1993 while Israel occupied Jenin suicide bombers did not come out of there, only when we gave them an authonomy they appeared. Suicide bombers thrived from 1993-2002 when Jenin was free from any Israelis.

 

[500]

Indeed Singh on this point. India seems to me wants not only Kashmir, but also the people in Kashmir. That's why I personally (strictly as an outsider), wish to see some form of joint administration of Kashmir as the starting point ...

This is in contrast with others, who want the settlements and the land (of the so-called "British mandate"), but not the people on the land.

The major difference is that people of Kashmir dont want to destroy India, while Palestinians want to destroy Israel.

By the way, 20% of Israel's citizens are Arabs, Arabic is official language in Israel. There are Arabic programs on Israel's state TV every day.

 

[500]

Then why are there 'half-jews'?

So much for that.

Thats modern secular term. In Judaism there is no such thing.

 

[Menes]

Report: Gaza crisis 'worst since 1967' - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Israel-Palestinians - msnbc.com

 

[oceanx]

The major difference is that people of Kashmir dont want to destroy India, while Palestinians want to destroy Israel.

That one gets so old that I don't think you believe it yourself. Rhetorics are always hot and I regularly read JPost, JWR and the likes because I want to know what the Carolines of the "holy land" talk about so I am prepared for at least the mild version of the "hot sauce".

But I also realize that all Israelis are not pro-settlement.

So why would you stitch a strawman to every Palestinian and then shoot it down?

By the way, 20% of Israel's citizens are Arabs, Arabic is official language in Israel. There are Arabic programs on Israel's state TV every day.

That we know. We ain't talking about them.

 

[500]

So why would you stitch a strawman to every Palestinian and then shoot it down?

I did not say "every", but major Palestinian party aka Hamas openly states that.

In Israel, on the other hand, all major parties, including the right wing Likud recognized two state solution.

 

[Nishan]

So if Lebanese destroy the whole Palestinian camp just because someone robed Hariri's bank there - that fine, because both are Arabs. But if Israel destroys some houses in Jenin trying to catch suicide bombers - thats OUTRAGE. Basically you admit that allegations of cruelty is nothing but pretext, Israelis will be always bad to you because they are not Arabs.

As for "occupiers" and "resistance". As I just said, Israel entered in Jenin in 2002 because of suicide bombers which were comming out of there. However from 1967-1993 while Israel occupied Jenin suicide bombers did not come out of there, only when we gave them an authonomy they appeared. Suicide bombers thrived from 1993-2002 when Jenin was free from any Israelis.

first: You have to understand that Israelis are outsiders . . and occupiers . . and those Polish Jews, Russians jews, Ukrainians jews . . . etc. Who where brought by Zionist organizations In previous years . . .Have no rights to Palestine . . .and they are foreigners and must leave and those who insist to stay here . . .they are occupiers and they deserve whatever happens to them.

second: What do the Lebanese against the Palestinians or Syrain against lebanese or jordanians against palestanians or iraqis against kuwaits . . . etc You as a Jew Not of your business . . we kill each other then we kiss each other . . its family matter . . Not of your business . . again

third: Whos land occupied . . Whos parents, brothers and sisters and all his family killed . . whos home destroyed . . whos Israel covert his life to hell . . .When he becomes a suicide bomber No one can blame him . . . Injustice imposed by Israel Lead to reactions Equal to the size of this injustice

 

[Nishan]

By the way, 20% of Israel's citizens are Arabs, Arabic is official language in Israel. There are Arabic programs on Israel's state TV every day.

Arabs in Israel are Palestinian, Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza are Palestinians also, Why israel not collect all the Palestinians in a single state with Jews if your words are true ? Do Israel agree on the establishment of one state from the river to the sea include all Palestinians and Jews ?

 

[Perceptron]

Arab proverb says: Eating carrots strengthens the eyesight . . But it seems that the Western media have become blind and its eyes need surgery to cornea transplants

No, the whole Western Media knows about the doctrine of the Arab, which is based on Taqiyya and especially this

It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.

 

[rsingh]

ok then plz give them independence, if their such a pain.
As for the carrot and stick, with Israel they show the carrot to the media and and the stick is in constant use behind the scenes.

And let you R-A-P-E them just you did to Afghanistan.

 

[Tuahaa]

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[500]

first: You have to understand that Israelis are outsiders . .

First you have to understand that Jews lived in Palestine 2000 years before the Arabs, in fact even word Palestine itself is Hebrew.

second: What do the Lebanese against the Palestinians or Syrain against lebanese or jordanians against palestanians or iraqis against kuwaits . . . etc You as a Jew Not of your business . . we kill each other then we kiss each other . . its family matter . . Not of your business . . again

I dont say its my business I just point at your double standards.

third: Whos land occupied . . Whos parents, brothers and sisters and all his family killed . . whos home destroyed . . whos Israel covert his life to hell . . .

1) 1,5 million of Israel's Arabs have Israeli citizenship and are happy with it. Trust me they dont want to became citizens of Syria or Egypt.
2) 1.5 milion Gaza Arabs live under complete self rule of Hamas.
3) 2 million Arabs in West Bank live in very wide authonomy and live better than their neighbours in Jordan, Syri, Egypt etc.. They were offered state on several occasions but refused.

When he becomes a suicide bomber No one can blame him . . . Injustice imposed by Israel Lead to reactions Equal to the size of this injustice

The overwhelming majority of suicide bombers casualties are Muslims themselves.