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8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

honestly, eygpt received over 10 billion dollars in Aid and promise of over 13 billion dollars for new capital city..

for us jumping in will be suicide even if we get similar amount of $$$..because we have 10% shia population that is extremely loyal to Iran no matter what type of policies iran continue down the line..
And what about 80% which is extremely loyal to saudia? . we didnt give a damn about iran and saudia .
 
Z-10 Helicopters, Submarines & negotiation to acquire HQ-9 from China. Looks like Pakistan is making some serious moves to make its defence strong. :pakistan:
 
Z-10 Helicopters, Submarines & negotiation to acquire HQ-9 from China. Looks like Pakistan is making some serious moves to make its defence strong. :pakistan:
But it seems to be falling into the same trap as before: going to one suppliers. Pakistan needs to spread it's list of suppliers.
 
8 S20s is a very big number, we should look for different chinese ballistic subs , South Korean, Japanese and German submarines too.
 
But it seems to be falling into the same trap as before: going to one suppliers. Pakistan needs to spread it's list of suppliers.

But it depends whether other suppliers are ready to sell their hardware or not. We had been asking U.S to give Apaches for decades, but they refused(due to Indian lobby). France has also refused to share its submarine technology to Pakistan because they were not invited on the parade day (That was quite childish of them :omghaha:). Same can be expected from Germany because they are NATO. Will Russia provide us S-300? If yes then good enough. If not then we have no option but China.
 
It's a 5 billion dollar deal and amazing how quick and smooth the decision was made. Hopefully the agreement is also signed quickly.

they can pursue a distant and doubtful 10 billion deal instead of a 5 billion dollar arms length deal. As far as technology is concerned, we already have experience of building two agosta class subs, now building at least 5 to 6 more out of total 8 would add tremendous capability and knowhow. Works for us pretty nicely.

But it depends whether other suppliers are ready to sell their hardware or not. We had been asking U.S to give Apaches for decades, but they refused(due to Indian lobby). France has also refused to share its submarine technology to Pakistan because they were not invited on the parade day (That was quite childish of them :omghaha:). Same can be expected from Germany because they are NATO. Will Russia provide us S-300? If yes then good enough. If not then we have no option but China.
 
France has also refused to share its submarine technology to Pakistan because they were not invited on the parade day (That was quite childish .

Hi,

Could you plz elaborate on that. Thank you.
 
Hi,

That was not france but the members of our standing comittee

Probably.. But it also came on the news as well. There might be another reason. But, France has actually refused to sell submarines to Pakistan.
 

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