8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

[Rahil khan]

yes sir why not ? it will take some more 10 to 13 years for induct these subs

Don't you think it's one heck of a time Sir ? Suppose our last Submarine is inducted in 2030....than the French submarines would become obsolete already...we shall lose the advantage of having some diversity in our fleet. Is this time consuming phenomena is the mater of routine in such big deals...... or otherwise like we often say only happens in Pakistan due to poor management issues ?

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Please confirm the submarine is diesel electric or AIP? Aren't the 2 different technologies???

Both are different things ... Subs are powered by diesel electric engine

while AIP is different thing it has nothing to do with power .. It allow submarine to stay underwater for a longer time

If an y submarine don't have AIP than it is necessary for sub to come to surface of the ocean in 24 hours

 

[Imran Khan]

Don't you think it's one heck of a time Sir ? Suppose our last Submarine is inducted in 2030....than the French submarines would become obsolete already...we shall lose the advantage of having some diversity in our fleet. Is this time consuming phenomena is the mater of routine in such big deals...... or otherwise like we often say only happens in Pakistan due to poor management issues ?

On 21 September 1994, the Pakistani authorities and DCN International signed a contract in Islamabad for the supply of three Agosta 90-B submarines

first unit, "Khalid," was built in Cherbourg and delivered to Pakistan It was commissioned on 6 September 1999 and inducted into PN Fleet on 21 December 1999.



Even before the delivery of sections of submarine No. 2 the work on major structures was started in December 1997 second submarine was launched on 24 August 2002 and started its harbor and sea trials.She was commissioned in Pakistan Navy on 13 December 2003


third Agosta 90B submarine that has been completely built at Pakistan Navy Dockyard The submarine was launched in August 2006 was commissioned into Pakistan Navy Fleet on 26 September 2008

now count for 8 subs boss

 

[Psychic]

Please confirm the submarine is diesel electric or AIP? Aren't the 2 different technologies???

When on surface a conventional sub uses deisel engine but when submerged, deisel engine can't be used instead batteries are used for propulsion and to recharge batteries sub has to surface frequently.
AIP allows a sub to remain submerged for upto three weeks.

 

[farhan_9909]

here is the most important part in the news



media sources report that Islamabad will build submarines under license based on the Qing-class vessels displacing 3,000 tons: “Pakistan will also build two types of submarines with Chinese assistance: the Project S-26 and Project S-30. The vessels are to be built at the Submarine Rebuild Complex (SRC) facility being developed at Ormara, west of Karachi.”


So there will be 2 types of submarines project s26 and s30

any info about the s-26 and s-30 projects?any chinese member?

 

[Asian.Century]

According to Jang News Pakistan wanted to buy six submarines from China and Two from Germany but after Germany's refusal Pakistan decided to buy all eight Subs from China.

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You complete mis-interpret the article dude...or you have not read Urdu carefully and missed it by a mile. The article doesn't say at all anywhere Germany refused to sell submarines to Pakistan. Basically the article says Pakistan bought as the first country for HQ-16 and HQ-9 missile systems...and it was Pakistani gov of that time not go for it as it didnot provide the required capability.

Then the article clearly says that Pakistan ordered 6 Chinese submarines in 2011, and wanted 3 German Submarines, but rather than going for German Submarines, it decided to go for 8 Chinese ones now. It does not say anywhere Germany refused, infact it was Pakistanis who refused to buy from Germany.

These Type 041 Submarines are great addition to PN.

 

[帅的一匹]

I say China shall provide Pakistan one billions USD aid each year so as to help Pakistan deter India threats. Modi is a threat when he choose to join hands with Japan and USA, very dangerous opportunist.

 

[Rahil khan]

On 21 September 1994, the Pakistani authorities and DCN International signed a contract in Islamabad for the supply of three Agosta 90-B submarines

first unit, "Khalid," was built in Cherbourg and delivered to Pakistan It was commissioned on 6 September 1999 and inducted into PN Fleet on 21 December 1999.



Even before the delivery of sections of submarine No. 2 the work on major structures was started in December 1997 second submarine was launched on 24 August 2002 and started its harbor and sea trials.She was commissioned in Pakistan Navy on 13 December 2003


third Agosta 90B submarine that has been completely built at Pakistan Navy Dockyard The submarine was launched in August 2006 was commissioned into Pakistan Navy Fleet on 26 September 2008

now count for 8 subs boss

 

[Imran Khan]

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if that speed then 15 plus years .

 

[Donatello]

if that speed then 15 plus years .

Sir, Agosta90 contract was signed in 1994, that is PPP-Bhutto Zardari time....and that is the reason shyt happened. Then came Zardari in 2000s to cash his kickbacks and hence that Sheraton Bombing in Karachi which killed 11 Frenchmen. The construction was put on hold, but French still had to honor the contract so they completed the deal.

If Zardari comes back again, expect some delays, otherwise no issues of funds this time, since China is providing loans and they are the ones building the submarines.

 

[帅的一匹]

if that speed then 15 plus years .

not gonna happen with China as the supplier, French is too slow.

 

[Bilal.]

These assets will help secure the China trade corridor which will benefit both country's economy greatly.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

any info about the s-26 and s-30 projects?any chinese member?

there is no info regarding S26 and S30 projects available .... But as per speculation
S26 will be submarine based on chinese S20 with AIP and capability of firing SLCM
while S30 will be be on Qing class which will able to fire not only SLCM but 1500 km range SLBM

 

[Rahil khan]

Sir, Agosta90 contract was signed in 1994, that is PPP-Bhutto Zardari time....and that is the reason shyt happened. Then came Zardari in 2000s to cash his kickbacks and hence that Sheraton Bombing in Karachi which killed 11 Frenchmen. The construction was put on hold, but French still had to honor the contract so they completed the deal.

If Zardari comes back again, expect some delays, otherwise no issues of funds this time, since China is providing loans and they are the ones building the submarines.

Sir ! Zardari needs another Benazir Bhutto to seize the power in capital....that cheque which he cashed in 2008 has been used up already. I desperately hope they complete this deal in 8 years time maximum....!!

 

[rockstar08]

On 21 September 1994, the Pakistani authorities and DCN International signed a contract in Islamabad for the supply of three Agosta 90-B submarines

first unit, "Khalid," was built in Cherbourg and delivered to Pakistan It was commissioned on 6 September 1999 and inducted into PN Fleet on 21 December 1999.



Even before the delivery of sections of submarine No. 2 the work on major structures was started in December 1997 second submarine was launched on 24 August 2002 and started its harbor and sea trials.She was commissioned in Pakistan Navy on 13 December 2003


third Agosta 90B submarine that has been completely built at Pakistan Navy Dockyard The submarine was launched in August 2006 was commissioned into Pakistan Navy Fleet on 26 September 2008

now count for 8 subs boss

@Imran Khan bhai ap tu khush hai na ..