8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

[scholseys]

pak needs to complete the nuclear triad asap

 

[ZAC1]

when pakistan is going to get its first s-20 sub ?

 

[Quwa]

I did not see any news regarding this from credible sources

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...na-finalize-8-sub-construction-plan/73634218/

 

[Mav3rick]

I did not see any news regarding this from credible sources

And usually, such are the procurement practices concerning Military Equipment by Pakistan. We do not usually advertise our 'intent' to procure something like 20 years ahead of the actual procurement.

 

[ghazi52]

And usually, such are the procurement practices concerning Military Equipment by Pakistan. We do not usually advertise our 'intent' to procure something like 20 years ahead of the actual procurement.

True..

 

[Quwa]

Sir not a credible source

Multiple journalists - including an industry leading source such as Defense News - heard a statement by Pakistan's Minister of Defence Production saying that the deal had been finalized. It's written in the article I had linked.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Government Of Pakistan gave approval to buy 8 submarines from China....

Also Talks are with UK Germany and France to buy used Submarines....

Saw this on SAMAA News Channel....

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[Quwa]

Sir there is lot of difference between finalising agreement and signing. In military procurement only after signing the agreement and followed by first instalment payment, then only they will start the project

Sino-Pak defence agreements aren't as transparent as your typical transaction with a Western vendor. No one knows when Pakistan sent in the initial payment for any of its purchases from China. In fact, the specifics that we do have for the submarine deal come thanks to some details found by the Financial Times, the the officials in Pakistan and China didn't even inform us of the actual type or what is included in the deal (besides 8 submarines)!

As a general rule, if a person as high level as the Minister of Defence Production announces a deal such as this, considered it inked, especially 6-8 months after the announcement.

 

[ZAC1]

in 2015 Chinese media stated about the project of 8 submarines the work and timeline was already decided in past

 

[khanasifm]

Moreover, he also congratulated Karachi Shipyard for the landmark achievement of securing the construction contract of 4 x new generation AIP submarines.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/landing-craft-mechanized-lcm-to-pakistan-navy.427348/#ixzz46oQwAvV9

 

[Hassan Guy]

These subs better be nuclear powered and have VLS for SLBM's otherwise this sub deal would be a waste.

 

[Penguin]

These subs better be nuclear powered and have VLS for SLBM's otherwise this sub deal would be a waste.

Not at all. Nuclear powered boat are primarily usefull for open ocean submarine warfare (fast continuous submerged transit speeds, long endurance). Conventionally powered, with or without AIP, are more usefull closer in (for one, they are quieter). AIP improves submerged endurance.