8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

[wiseone2]

I not so SURE but I THINK so!
That they PN plans of producing their own Nuclear submarine might be based on S-20 design but might weigh around 7000 Tons when submerged. And it might have some Ballistic Missile capability as well.

I think if GoP will give PN the money which it needs then the submerged fleet will look like in 15 year:
5-7 SSBNs
20-25 SSKs
12+ Coastal SSKs

So how much does S-20 Displaced?

Who are you going to fight with that many subs ? US Navy ??

 

[black-hawk_101]

Who are you going to fight with that many subs ? US Navy ??

No Defend our area of SEAs.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Out of those 16, 10 are operational and India is making scorpions too, project 75i and Arihant, new class SSbN's and SSN's

What does Pakistan have now ?? 8 submarines out of which 3 are midget and all under 2100 tons and 10 frigates to the most. Sometimes its good to appreciate what your neighbor has done better than you. Indian navy builds most its ships in its own docks.

Pakistani submarines remain far more serviceable than Indian Sub-surface element. Pakistan's submarine deployment and patrol scheme is a big headache for Indian in Littoral waters. By dismissing the Pakistani sub-surface development, you are only showing your inability to grasp Naval warfare concepts.

 

[araz]

Pakistani submarines remain far more serviceable than Indian Sub-surface element. Pakistan's submarine deployment and patrol scheme is a big headache for Indian in Littoral waters. By dismissing the Pakistani sub-surface development, you are only showing your inability to grasp Naval warfare concepts.

Would you be able to confirm that the deal for the subs with the chinese has been signed or not. i am getting conflicting reports.
A

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Would you be able to confirm that the deal for the subs with the chinese has been signed or not. i am getting conflicting reports.
A

Chinese contract was signed some time ago for the 08 SSKs.

 

[aziqbal]

8 x SSK in PN will be a tremendous under water force

A submarine is the ace up the sleeve of every nation the silent killer

A single SSK used correctly could tie down a entire carrier strike group

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

8 x SSK in PN will be a tremendous under water force

A submarine is the ace up the sleeve of every nation the silent killer

A single SSK used correctly could tie down a entire carrier strike group

This is a correct and well thought out investment for PN. 04 Subs will be manufactured in China, while 04 will be manufactured at Karachi Shipyard, work on which has already started.

 

[monitor]

This is a correct and well thought out investment for PN. 04 Subs will be manufactured in China, while 04 will be manufactured at Karachi Shipyard, work on which has already started.

what you work for submarine start simultaneously in Pakistan and China one in China another one in Pakistan or after completing one others work will begins?

 

[ziaulislam]

Chinese contract was signed some time ago for the 08 SSKs.

what's the substance news report quoting used western subs?
any planning for nuke subs?

 

[muhammadali233]

what's the substance news report quoting used western subs?
any planning for nuke subs?

Pak is not procuring west subs any more.
Nuke subs are useless when you have aip subs,they make alot of noise and are easily picked up sonars when they move,8 aip subs with complementing agosta subs pak fleet is will get quite strong.

 

[volatile]

There was some quoted 6 months back on TV that small Nuke reactor is already designed and tested .This is for Nuke Sub project .I agree all these 8 subs will be enough with retrofitting of 3rd strike capabilities through Torpedo tubes ,Pak is going for a cheaper yet deadly combination.Nuke Sub if we build it will be more of a tech demonstrator for future strategic goals .Unlike Indians we will build Indigenous one with our own resources .

 

[MKC]

Pak is not procuring west subs any more.
Nuke subs are useless when you have aip subs,they make alot of noise and are easily picked up sonars when they move,8 aip subs with complementing agosta subs pak fleet is will get quite strong.

Well if you are correct then US wouldn't have decommissioned whole conventional fleet & relied only on nuclear fleet.
Also more upcoming subs are also nuclear subs.

 

[hussain0216]

Well if you are correct then US wouldn't have decommissioned whole conventional fleet & relied only on nuclear fleet.
Also more upcoming subs are also nuclear subs.

The USA dosent intend to protect its own borders solely , it goes around the world interfering and dicking around everywhere, nuke subs for it make much more sense

Pakistan only has 1 enemy state to target and destroy and a relatively small coastline

 

[Zarvan]

@Rashid Mahmood @fatman17 @Windjammer Haroon Rasheed famous journalist claims Pakistan is cancelling 8 Submarine deal !!!! Is it true ????

 

[fatman17]

@Rashid Mahmood @fatman17 @Windjammer Haroon Rasheed famous journalist claims Pakistan is cancelling 8 Submarine deal !!!! Is it true ????

not true.

God save us from Pakistani media. most unprofessional bunch.