111 BRIGADE

[That Guy]

Already, cracks in the facade are appearing, including a growth rates that falls short and industrial production in jeopardy due to shortage of power. The IMF's prescription will be almost impossible for this government to achieve, including the issues of subsidies and tax reforms.

No one expected the government to achieve every single target set by the IMF, but as long as the IMF is satisfied with the progress, there is little to worry about.

As for the growth rate, of course the government was going to exaggerate, that's why you don't believe everything they say, and instead look to other sources, like the IMF.

You need to get a reality check, you cannot compare Muslims with Hindus. The only time Pakistan progressed was in the time of Military rule & whenever DEMOCRAZY came all the spineless politicians were busy naming their price to the enemies of Pakistan. Democratic system in Pakistan can never mature it will only get worse. Who are the next leaders Bilawal Zardari, Hamza Shahbaz, Mariam Nawaz & so on who were & are still build on robbed money of Pakistan & massive corruption.

While the countries around the world continue to build their Army to ensure the safety of their country & Economic development our spineless politicians have chosen to destroy both Pakistan & Pakistan Army.

If you look at Muslim history, the leaders were mostly Military Generals who lead their countries & lead the Military from the front, where as now a days people love DEMOCRAZY as it is the good way to rent themselves out & make money following the examples of Mir Jaffar, Mir Sadiq & so on.

Military Rule that's it, screw DEMOCRAZY as it has only brought only blood, pain & suffering in Pakistan.

You're a damn joker if you honestly think this is reality.

military rule has only brought trouble to Pakistan, as dictators have always sold out Pakistan's sovereignty to foreign powers such as the US. Development during military rule? If you're talking infrastructure, sure, but education and societal progression? Pakistan has only regressed.

Pakistan could have been the greatest Islamic democracy in the world, and it's develpment would have been a sight to behold if the military stayed out of civil politics. Every time the military has come to power, it has only lead to more bloodshed and war. The rest of the world laughed at us, while India progressed and was praised by the international community. It is an utter disgrace and humiliation that Pakistan behind India, when Pakistan had more opportunities that India, because of it's alignment to the US. Pakistan is the only US cold war ally that is still considered a frontier market.

Everything you've said is nothing more than blind jingoism. Nationalism is for children, and you sir are a child.

 

[VCheng]

No one expected the government to achieve every single target set by the IMF, but as long as the IMF is satisfied with the progress, there is little to worry about.
As for the growth rate, of course the government was going to exaggerate, that's why you don't believe everything they say, and instead look to other sources, like the IMF.

Of course, as long as the IMF releases each tranche on time, it will be okay, but the two big issues are subsidies and tax reforms, both of which will not be easily brushed aside. The other targets are not that important by comparison, I would agree.

 

[That Guy]

Of course, as long as the IMF releases each tranche on time, it will be okay, but the two big issues are subsidies and tax reforms, both of which will not be easily brushed aside. The other targets are not that important by comparison, I would agree.

Subsidies have been mostly cut, it's the tax reforms which are hard to achieve as the opposition keeps trying to block government efforts.

 

[VCheng]

Subsidies have been cut, it's the tax reforms which are hard to achieve as the opposition keeps trying to block government efforts.

The commitment is to eliminate subsidies, and effective tax reforms, both of which will be tall orders to achieve.

 

[That Guy]

great logical band width of you?
frist you came & sung the ugly damocrzy the great song, then you went to giving examples of how damocrazy, made india a power to reckon with?
but you couldnt find any scale, why china wirhout hving a damocrazy, went ahead of india?
ohh its another sun , you are shying away?
my dear sir?

China is an exception, as they had a lot of financial credit to work with, but we can see that even the Chinese government is susceptible to the political and social needs of it's people.

You keep harping on democracy, but you don't even point out what is wrong with democracy. Simply electing officials isn't democracy, the system requires the will of the people. Wasn't Pakistan built for that? To answer to the will of it's people?

The commitment is to eliminate subsidies, and effective tax reforms, both of which will be tall orders to achieve.

It is, but it isn't impossible. The government can do it if it is given the space (politically) to maneuver, all the opposition cares about is taking power from the governing party, this is unfortunately the side affect of an infant democratic system. Pakistan's civil society needs to mature.

 

[batmannow]

China is an exception, as they had a lot of financial credit to work with, but we can see that even the Chinese government is susceptible to the political and social needs of it's people.

You keep harping on democracy, but you don't even point out what is wrong with democracy. Simply electing officials isn't democracy, the system requires the will of the people. Wasn't Pakistan built for that? To answer to the will of it's people?


It is, but it isn't impossible. The government can do it if it is given the space (politically) to maneuver, all the opposition cares about is taking power from the governing party, this is unfortunately the side affect of an infant democratic system. Pakistan's civil society needs to mature.

what is wrong in damcrazy?
why in the mother of damocrazies , i mean UK, still its been unwritten constitution?
ohh i guss, thats called damocrazy?

 

[That Guy]

what is wrong in damcrazy?
why in the mother of damocrazies , i mean UK, still its been unwritten constitution?
ohh i guss, thats called damocrazy?

Okay, I don't even know what you said that time. Usually I don't riff on people's language skills, but you need to think your words out before you post.

From what I can tell, you aren't really giving me a reasonable answer, but using a straw man argument. By the way, the UK does have a constitution, it may not be compiled into a single document, but it does exist.

Constitution of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even if it didn't, the fact that it is today a democracy that doesn't have a constitution speaks volumes of how much democracy can give you. The UK is where it's at because of a democratic system in place that governs how the nation is run post-world war 2.

 

[Secularpakistani]

Well no more army intervention but on other hand if we really want a democracy and strong free market economy then these so called democratic parties like PML(N) and PPP don,t meet the criteria.

 

[tarrar]

No one expected the government to achieve every single target set by the IMF, but as long as the IMF is satisfied with the progress, there is little to worry about.

As for the growth rate, of course the government was going to exaggerate, that's why you don't believe everything they say, and instead look to other sources, like the IMF.


You're a damn joker if you honestly think this is reality.

military rule has only brought trouble to Pakistan, as dictators have always sold out Pakistan's sovereignty to foreign powers such as the US. Development during military rule? If you're talking infrastructure, sure, but education and societal progression? Pakistan has only regressed.

Pakistan could have been the greatest Islamic democracy in the world, and it's develpment would have been a sight to behold if the military stayed out of civil politics. Every time the military has come to power, it has only lead to more bloodshed and war. The rest of the world laughed at us, while India progressed and was praised by the international community. It is an utter disgrace and humiliation that Pakistan behind India, when Pakistan had more opportunities that India, because of it's alignment to the US. Pakistan is the only US cold war ally that is still considered a frontier market.

Everything you've said is nothing more than blind jingoism. Nationalism is for children, and you sir are a child.

The only joker I see around here is you, who believes in fantasy & loads of crap which does not have any reality.

DEMOCRAZY is a threat to Pakistan as it has only brought pain, blood & threat to Pakistan.

 

[batmannow]

Okay, I don't even know what you said that time. Usually I don't riff on people's language skills, but you need to think your words out before you post.

From what I can tell, you aren't really giving me a reasonable answer, but using a straw man argument. By the way, the UK does have a constitution, it may not be compiled into a single document, but it does exist.

Constitution of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even if it didn't, the fact that it is today a democracy that doesn't have a constitution speaks volumes of how much democracy can give you. The UK is where it's at because of a democratic system in place that governs how the nation is run post-world war 2.

ok then throw the constitution of pakistan into some garbage dump?
cause mother of damocrazies itself is a monorical dictator ship, in which evey single sentence comming out of the queen of UK,s mouth could be considered or termed as the constitution of the state ?
well, straw-menship was showed by your part but not me?
there are countries or states in this world , which doesnt follow the stupid , & unfair rule of elites often described & followed in the 3rd world countries , just becuse the states & thier elites having that golobal control on the wealth of whole world?
this corporated , INC. , LTD, PVT , & now .COMs are they same tools applied over the most of the world cant fool the humanity any more?
damocrazy is for elites, by the elites for the elites?
in west democracy often considered the medecine of every goddammed , sickness but in asia even being forcefully, with its conspirated forms is just only been implemented to achive the targets , & goals of the western world?
from JAPAN to SOUTH KOREA till TAIWAN it really sucks?
& economic growth these countries hving isnt is because they were having democracies , its just because they have surrenderd them selves to, the super elites of this world?
main aims & objectives by launching conspirated damocrazies in countries like pakistan is still, remains same that, none of dictatorships are ready to give up pakiatan,s nuclear arsneals.
thus they have brought, croupt political elites to give up, the nuclear assests & live under a security contract, just like JAPAN & SOUTH KOREA?
BTW common peoples in both japan & s.korea still not living well, they still arw below what most of the peoples enjoy,s in the west?
which was just made model, heavens to fool 3rd world & resourcefull weaker countries ?
in today,s real world , it called satellitic control of planet earth by few like minded allies?
in that case sure whenever the time will come & resolve of pakarmy tested to give up pakistani national nuclear assests, be hell sure that 111 brigade will be taking over pakistan,s strategic locations in its patriotic control?
& it wont stop by the lectures of few over joyed democracy lovers in pakistan !

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

 

[Tameem]

A political Nightmare for PDF Administration as well

 

[Informant]

A political Nightmare for PDF Administration as well

Goes to show Noora would do anything to save his seat, be it collaborating with Mr. God knows how much percent.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

People need to learn by trial and error. There is no need for the Army to intervene.

if Army does this from the background then that will be best. bring in civilians and install a national government and let the tiger escape to KSA

Army is never coming in power again. Army is too divided between Pro and Anti Taliban camps. Just like the rest of Pakistan.

reminds me of my rant some time ago

111 Brigade the time is Nigh!!!

 

[Jaanbaz]

reminds me of my rant some time ago
111 Brigade the time is Nigh!!!

Are you serving in the Armed Forces bro? My opinion is based on the divided society of Pakistan so i came to the conclusion that Armed Forces's top brass is also divided.