5 common myths about Islam Propagated by Media

[Prometheus]

How come history of crusades is dusted and forgotten? What about what Israel is doing (not even past still doing) to Palestine is dusted and out of media?



No its an image that Cultural India is intolerant...What "Indian Muslims" did back then was not backed by Quran....

Any religion that came to India, when did India not mix it with their culture? Even Hinduism isnt practiced in its true form...Where in the religion it is stated about 1 god, and no idols for god...But ask an everyday Hindu he will tell you about over a thousand of gods....and so on...

Islam came said dont bury your kids...yet Islam couldnt get rid of the culture of female infanticide ....

Islam said dont discriminate based on caste, creed, colour, race or anything....yet we have Indian Syeds more than the Syeds found in any Arab country!

Islam never preached honor killing (which was already in India since before time) and it couldnt cut its roots

Islam said educate the woman and give her rights...Todays Indian Muslim women are not exactly 100% educated....So before taking the religion to court please ask how many left their bad cultural habits and not mix them with religion to produce a hybrid like Frankenstein?

Question should be where does Islam come in this?

Yes, just like the doings since even before Asok of India who also slew people blindly and he wasnt even Muslim...


The scholars did...They exposed this image as a lie with references from the Quran (the highest and most authentic source in Islam) :

Open Letter to Abu Bakar Al-Baghdadi, by leading global Scholars of Islam.

These scholars crushed any rights ISIS or any other "Islamic" group claimed...each argument can be used for any such stupid group forming or ANYONE doing such shit!

But just coz Media didnt hype on about it no one knows nor no one repeats it as often as your negative images!

well .......this thread said the myths propagated by Media about Islam which was leading to hatred against muslims.......................I pointed out a simple example where there was no role of Media in anti-muslim sentiments mate...........
its part of culture............and history ....

regarding the open letter etc to bagdadi .......these things dont work ........and why it has to be a non muslim nation has to come to rescue people from ISIS ..???? thats the image that should be corrected .........it should be a muslim countries doing the job in syria and iraq what USA and other non-muslim countries are doing.

anyhow u should go and watch that movie ...its on sikh history ..........dont go as muslim to watch it....u wont like it other wise

 

[Dubious]

its part of culture

yes which culture? Its also part of human nature...back then almost every country was war torn, yes?

.these things dont work

then what does? more bloodshed? Isnt that what they want?

non muslim nation has to come to rescue people from ISIS

1 reason is coz most non Muslim nations were bent about WOT ...this is also terror though not on their borders but they begged every doorstep when it was on their border now its their responsibility to counter any shit that arose from it! esp from the shitty media back then which kept repeating and still shamelessly is disrespectful of the dead and uses that to fund other crap!

So yes, you have to answer for your consequences....

.it should be a muslim countries doing the job in syria and iraq what USA and other non-muslim countries are doing.

Mind you from before the gulf war and cold war....USA has funded too many campaigns and done too many illegal wars to not form this imbalance....not acknowledging it is pure pride nothing else!

 

[Dubious]

anyhow u should go and watch that movie ...its on sikh history ..........dont go as muslim to watch it....u wont like it other wise

Interesting and animations were entertaining...But if this is true then that is rather disgusting how the "leader was behaving"! Nothing to do with Islam....and def nothing but just ill manners if those kids were killed! Coz nowhere does it say to kill children and women! Not even during any war (where people are not in the sane mind and going around chopping people and getting traumatized by their own loss) are they even ALLOWED to kill kids or women....let alone those who are "caught" and "defenseless"

 

[Sugarcane]

but but, so we shouldnt follow Hadiths?

Hadith/Story can be right, can be fabricated, can be partial account, can be in different context and circumstances, can be before revelation of Quranic verses - there are lot of CANs you have to look before following Hadiths.

BTW have you read any Hadith from books your self? All starts You must keep in mind books of Hadiths are written generations after death of Prophet (PBUH) and by that time there were tons of fabricated & doubtful Hadiths i.e. Imam Bukhari had collection of 300,000 Hadiths and after his investigation he found only 2,602 to be credible enough to include in his books. As he was not angel so chances of misjudgment/errors are there. One Hadith can be 100% correct but the incident could have happened before the revelation of verses on that topic i.e. Stoning punishment for adultery was in previous scriptures and was being practiced in those times, So if any Hadith regarding stoning exists than it's either fabricated or incident happened before revelation of Quranic versus on this topic.

 

[Prometheus]

yes which culture? Its also part of human nature...back then almost every country was war torn, yes?



then what does? more bloodshed? Isnt that what they want?



1 reason is coz most non Muslim nations were bent about WOT ...this is also terror though not on their borders but they begged every doorstep when it was on their border now its their responsibility to counter any shit that arose from it! esp from the shitty media back then which kept repeating and still shamelessly is disrespectful of the dead and uses that to fund other crap!

So yes, you have to answer for your consequences....



Mind you from before the gulf war and cold war....USA has funded too many campaigns and done too many illegal wars to not form this imbalance....not acknowledging it is pure pride nothing else!

eeerrr......can u write clearly what u wanna say???

is it fault of media or not?? or its USA's fault that image of Islam is not good?

hey all I want to say that Islam got Image problem long before Media started doing it.........and its upto Islam to grow up and improve it.

I see people here talking about muslim ummah ....injustice to muslims done in palestine etc..............people should be equally worried about injustice done to muslims by the hands of muslims and it should be muslims who should stop these injustices ...............and it should be muslims who shall be stopping and idiot organisation like ISIS from harming its image

well its just me thinking ..............

Sikhs had some minor image problem in India ............and it was Sikhs who cured it without taking help of any other

 

[Prometheus]

Interesting and animations were entertaining...But if this is true then that is rather disgusting how the "leader was behaving"! Nothing to do with Islam....and def nothing but just ill manners if those kids were killed! Coz nowhere does it say to kill children and women! Not even during any war (where people are not in the sane mind and going around chopping people and getting traumatized by their own loss) are they even ALLOWED to kill kids or women....let alone those who are "caught" and "defenseless"

not a isolated incident .....when Sikhism was like Budhism ....totally against any violence ....5th Guru was killed for not converting to Islam .....that what led next Gurus to follow other means

 

[TankMan]

But what is Islam? It is the set of religious beliefs of the Muslims who are doing all these atrocities. How can they be separated?

Islam is the set of religious beliefs of 1.7 Billion people. Some of those 1.7 billion people are doing all these atrocities. How can they be separated? Seriously? It's easy, just look at the ones mass murdering innocents, they are doing stuff which is contradictory to Islamic teachings. They may be Muslims but what they are doing is not Islam. How hard is that to understand.

When the US invaded Iraq, it was a Christian country. Does that make lying and invading countries part of Christianity? No, of course not. It was a political move. It doesn't matter what the leaders said, it was still political.

Similarly, it doesn't matter what the terrorists say, what they are doing is clearly not Islam.

dear, there are more than 50 islamic nations, why don't they fight against baghdadi collectively showing their unanimity ?

They already ARE collectively fighting against ISIS.
Who are America's regional allies in the fight against Isis? | World news | The Guardian
Who is part of the coalition to battle ISIS? - CNN.com

 

[INDIC]

Interesting and animations were entertaining...But if this is true then that is rather disgusting how the "leader was behaving"! Nothing to do with Islam....and def nothing but just ill manners if those kids were killed! Coz nowhere does it say to kill children and women! Not even during any war (where people are not in the sane mind and going around chopping people and getting traumatized by their own loss) are they even ALLOWED to kill kids or women....let alone those who are "caught" and "defenseless"

BTW I want to know why so many Pakistanis revere Mahmud Ghaznavi and looting of Somnath Temple. Even in 1965 the bombing of Gujarat was named as Operation Somnath.

 

[Dubious]

is it fault of media or not?? or its USA's fault that image of Islam is not good?

Who spread lies to get into Iraq for their motives? Who spread lies about Afghanistan to get funding for that war?

I see people here talking about muslim ummah ....injustice to muslims done in palestine etc..............people should be equally worried about injustice done to muslims by the hands of muslims and it should be muslims who should stop these injustices ...............and it should be muslims who shall be stopping and idiot organisation like ISIS from harming its image

1st step to stopping is acknowledging and distinguishing lies from truth...How is that stopping? It was to halt more people from following in pursuit...

But even the media didnt help in doing step 1: Open Letter to Abu Bakar Al-Baghdadi, by leading global Scholars of Islam.


I dont know why you and rest of the world gives a blind eye to the countries already fighting: Turkey, Iraq, Iran....

If Pakistan was not busy with their own crap in northern areas + border with India + a heavy duty Nihari king...I am sure we would be joining too!

Sikhs had some minor image problem in India ............and it was Sikhs who cured it without taking help of any other

You think?

Suppressing is not any form of curing!

 

[Spy Master]

As mentioned before.. the issue is NOT Islam. It is Muslims. A person who claims to be Muslim may or may not be on the correct path(s) whose identity is defined very flexibly by the Prophet and whose veracity is known only to Allah.

The US ended up apologizing to its own people for the Vietnam war.... and at very few instances did the United states explicitly imply that they were doing this because god had ordered them to do so..

@Syed.Ali.Haider Dude now get a life and for once think what everyone here is telling u about.... ISLAM and MUSLIMS are two different entities... why are you so much desperate to put whole blame on Islam... 1 minute before you said illiteracy blah blah is the problem after 2 mins you are like No, Islam is the Problem...seriously i m like , after reading your circling posts i want to smash my head on Wall...seriously dude...!

 

[Dubious]

BTW I want to know why so many Pakistanis revere Mahmud Ghaznavi and looting of Somnath Temple. Even in 1965 the bombing of Gujarat was named as Operation Somnath.

You mean this one? Mahmud Ghaznavi's 17 Invasions of India [Work in Progress]

Well most of the operation and weaponry is named after successful soldiers of Islam / battles of Islam because weaponry belongs in battle and naming it after some "idol of battle" is common ...No one will be naming their weapon Bunty Singh now will they?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

It's actually very simple:

1) Islam is perfect
2) If someone tries to denounce/remove/change any part of Islam, they are stating that Islam is not perfect
3) By stating that Islam is not perfect, you believe that Allah is not perfect

1) Was Islam not revealed to a Human by a Messenger Sent by God? Are humans by nature Imperfect? Thereby Prophets are imperfect but Tolerated enough to receive Gods message indirectly through a Messenger.
2) What does the Quran command how one must moderately dress, what does a Hadith command? Is that not a Change to the Quran, one of the most important parts of Islam?
3) By stating that Islam is Perfect is a denial that the Prophet could be human, and a denial that Gods version when it is revealed Directly to Mankind if God chooses to do so, Is THE Perfect way of life.

Making such a claim of Perfection is a dangerous one, one that no mortal should claim without punishment as seen fit by God.

@Akheilos , @Hazzy997

 

[TankMan]

.it should be a muslim countries doing the job in syria and iraq what USA and other non-muslim countries are doing.

USA created the mess that is now ISIS, so they do owe the region a little. And they're doing it for their own geopolitical interests, not because the Muslim countries can not. And by the way, the US is only giving some minor air and intel support.

Everything else from bombing runs to ground operations are being conducted by Muslim countries like UAE or Turkey and militias backed by Muslim countries, like the Iranian militants and Hezbollah that are doing all the real fighting.
The US is just 'leading', as usual, and doing none of the actual work and taking all the credit.

 

[TankMan]

Was Islam not revealed to a Human by a Messenger Sent by God? Are humans by nature Imperfect? Thereby Prophets are imperfect but Tolerated enough to receive Gods message indirectly through a Messenger.

The human who God entrusted with his message was a good man, one that would not corrupt it or anything. God chose him and God knows best.

What does the Quran command how one must moderately dress, what does a Hadith command? Is that not a Change to the Quran, one of the most important parts of Islam?

The Quran says 'dress modestly'. It does not exactly prescribe anything. So no, it would not be a change to the Quran. The only criteria set by the Quran is that the dressing should be decent and modest.
According to authentic hadith, there is no need to cover one's face or anything. Only requirements are covering the head and loose-fitting, which is something we can all happily live with.

By stating that Islam is Perfect is a denial that the Prophet could be human, and a denial that Gods version when it is revealed Directly to Mankind if God chooses to do so, Is THE Perfect way of life.

What are you trying to say? Please rephrase this, it doesn't make sense. Are you saying that God has already released some perfect way of life directly to mankind and we're denying it or what?

one that no mortal should claim

Exactly, I agree with you. But we're not claiming we mortals are perfect. It is our religion that is perfect, not us mortals and there is nothing wrong with believing that.

 

[Prometheus]

Who spread lies to get into Iraq for their motives? Who spread lies about Afghanistan to get funding for that war?



1st step to stopping is acknowledging and distinguishing lies from truth...How is that stopping? It was to halt more people from following in pursuit...

But even the media didnt help in doing step 1: Open Letter to Abu Bakar Al-Baghdadi, by leading global Scholars of Islam.


I dont know why you and rest of the world gives a blind eye to the countries already fighting: Turkey, Iraq, Iran....

If Pakistan was not busy with their own crap in northern areas + border with India + a heavy duty Nihari king...I am sure we would be joining too!



You think?

Suppressing is not any form of curing!

First of all I wanna say that I am a Sikh who hails from family of a general of Maharaja Ranjit Singh.......insurgency in punjab started agressivly after 84 riots and bluestar.....which was under standable ........and it was Sikh scholars who stopped people from pursuing violent means ......they finally succeeded in making people understand .which ended insurgency

And It was Punjab Police made of sikhs and led by sikhs .....nor anyone else .......Sikh religious leaders explained the very basis of Sikhism ............and people listened .........and things went quiet .

now about the Iraq...........again go back to my previous posts...............as I said If a muslim country has a problem ....Muslim countries shall come forward and work proactively .......why give a chance to some one else to jump in???

and Muslim leaders should do their best to stop attacks on non-muslims ............tolerance should be taught ..

daily some things pops up like Muslim militants killed so many ..........ISIS sold non- muslims women into slavary .............thats not at all helping Image of Islam .

no matter what wrongs are done towards a community ............it is judged at high moral grounds if it forgives and accepts the wrong doer .
do u know , even when Auranzeb and his ministers were responsible for death of thousands of sikhs ......resulted in death of Father , mother , and all sons ..........Guru Gobind Singh wrote him a letter and this letter changed him.........that letter was labbelled as "MITAR Peyare nu, haal mureda da kehna" ....he refered Auranzeb as dearest friend ..............not even that It was Guru Gobind Singh who crowned Son of Aurenzeb .

I can give more examples from Sikh History where Media played no part in negative image of Islam .....feel free to ask me mate.