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Most French people think Islam is incompatible with nation's values: PM

Ah, interesting! Yes, it is the case but more so for Muslims
that live in failed and/or authoritarian states ( the majority ).

Those that live in successful countries have a defined sense
of nationality and often see the Umma as a spiritual community
... just about as Christians see the Church.

Remember, in France, your religion is a private matter so trying
to claim anything on account of it won't work anyway.

Good day to you, Tay.

Talking about Churches, the brother hood of church is very localized. For example, here we have separate segregated Churches for Desis, Blacks, Whites etc. I have heard that Black church believes and teaches that Jesus was a Black and not Semitic. Does Islam has localized concepts like Christian Churches?
 
Whoa, Dadeechi man! What you described are sects not the Church.

Jesus explicitly meant his following to be open to all. Anybody trying
to segregate a Church of Christ is necessarily not a good Christian!!!

If you must give sub-sections the 2 major ones are Orthodox and Rome.
A case can then be made for Anglicans and Baptist but even Reformed
Churches are considered sects due to theological interpretation problems,
and most American "born again" groups are more Jewish than Christian.

If it was allowed, we'd need a specific thread to discuss that.

Good day, Tay.

P.S. As for Islam, it either has none or thousands depending how you look at it.
 
Think like what, StephenC? I take it you meant my post #165?

Tay.
 
You are :-

I am a Muslim
1.6 billion people spread over more than 57 plus countries.

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or an Asian
Asia - population 4.5 billion spread over 48 countries.

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Does that help the unaware to ascertain as to where you come from? I don't think so. I will let the secret out of the bag. It is in small print. In case anybody is offended please look away now > Pakistan.
 

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I would call it crude rather than biased. It shows the major locations of Muslim demography. To show smaller pockets would require higher resolution. I could not find any. But this was sufficient to make the point I was trying to convey.

And I must say you and @Vergennes are two great members and earn much respect for France in PDF. There is another great Frenchmen but his name eludes me. Something begining with P and suffix oil.
 
I would call it crude rather than biased. It shows the major locations of Muslim demography. To show smaller pockets would require higher resolution. I could not find any. But this was sufficient to make the point I was trying to convey.

And I must say you and @Vergennes are two great members and earn much respect for France in PDF. There is another great Frenchmen but his name eludes me. Something begining with P and suffix oil.

We are a small,but good crew.
:p: (@Taygibay and @Picdelamirand-oil deserve even more,they are serious with amazing knowledge,I always enjoy reading their high quality posts.)
 
Well, huh ... bow, bow, bow and many thanks, good people! :thank_you2:

Pic has more technical knowledge than most ( if not all ) members.
My edge is merely that of G-P and international affairs and maybe
having seen a lot too.
@halloweene is also interesting for sources but has been scarce of late.

But coming back to the map, incomplete in this case, as I agree it is :
showing if I'm not mistaken countries with Muslim statute or majority
of population, is actually biased. By forgetting the faithful that live out of
Umma, it diminishes their valued presence and focalizes the idea of
Islam as a block to which the rest and esp. the West is not permeable
and that is just not true.

I mean, if even Muslims represent themselves in opposition ( here by distribution )
to others and terrorists get the most press, no wonder the image of Islam
in global media is poor.
And beyond that, those "integrated" Muslims are likely to change Islam itself
if in part and could give it a new and less antagonistic or recluse dimension.

Tell, you what, I'll try to find a map that gets a passing grade by my standards
and share it with you, my good mate!

In the meanwhile, stay safe and all the best to you and yours, Tay,

P.S. Coucou par chez Vauban aussi, oeuf corse! :cheers:
 
Despite all these news reports which actually makes sense (based on the sad terrorist attacks in France) i felt French to be pretty awesome people. Not felt any discrimination for a moment because i am a Muslim or an Asian. May be it is because i was in Paris and that being a tourist spot have so many people visiting that the French do not bother about visitors there. Still, based on that experience i will say that it is not like French hate Muslims. NO they don't and i never felt any hatred or insecurity because of my faith. Not for a moment.

For me, actually it is such news reports that are creating more hatred (perhaps this is why they are made)

I had the exact same experience. I went to Paris with a very biased mindset assuming that people would be rude or at best indifferent to a brown person like myself. My friend before my departure had informed me about the so called 'Paris Syndrome' (a bbc article suggesting that many Japanese tourists break down emotionally in Paris because of the rudeness of the locals).
Once in France and Paris however my views changed quite drastically. The only slightly rude person I met was the guy at the cafe who was warming my baguette but my train was about to leave, so I told him to hurry but apparently he was really passionate about the way he made his food! Eventually I got him to take out the bread faster but he did not look too pleased about it haha! I guess one stereotype that is true is that you dont mess with French people and their love for properly made Baguettes :D
 
Whoa, Dadeechi man! What you described are sects not the Church.

Jesus explicitly meant his following to be open to all. Anybody trying
to segregate a Church of Christ is necessarily not a good Christian!!!

If you must give sub-sections the 2 major ones are Orthodox and Rome.
A case can then be made for Anglicans and Baptist but even Reformed
Churches are considered sects due to theological interpretation problems,
and most American "born again" groups are more Jewish than Christian.

If it was allowed, we'd need a specific thread to discuss that.

Good day, Tay.

P.S. As for Islam, it either has none or thousands depending how you look at it.


No I was not talking about sects in Christianity. I was talking about flavors of Christianity by Race (refer highlighted text below).

Also, I heard about the below. Is this true?

ABRAHAM is from the Aramaic & Hebrew compound: AB + ARAHAM. Linguists translate it as "father of the exalted." This is only half correct, an obfuscation of the truth. ARAHAM is a Semitic word cognate to ARYAMANI or ARYAN. And it means the same thing: "lifted up on high" hence "exalted." The terminal "M" or MIM for plurality signifies "waters" and waters means "nations." ABRAHAM literally means FATHER OF THE ARYAN NATIONS.


Also what about this?
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In recent decades Christianity has become a suicide cult. Theological leaders have reinterpreted the Bible into a document of ethnic and religious sadomasochism. Everywhere, Christians of European descent are being told by their church leaders and faith organizations to open their countries to Third World invaders, transracially adopt children, hand their country’s political authority over to less civilized minorities, tolerate and accept Islamic warfare against them, displace their children’s inherited privilege, bankrupt themselves giving “aid” to disparate corners of the globe, encourage their children to marry outside their ethnic group, and denounce their own ancestors as evil “racists” unworthy of commemoration or respect. In short, Euroethnic Christians are being commanded to erase their own existence.

The first addition of Radix Journal, published in 2012, was entitled The Great Erasure and contained numerous writings related to the soft genocide of the European people who are being culturally, religiously, and physically displaced from every country they once inhabited. Worldwide, it is only ethnic European nations being forced to integrate millions of invading “immigrants” migrating from global slums. In Europe, a steady stream of almost entirely male Muslims and Africans has been breaking through the borders of Europe encouraged by lenient policies and once solvent welfare systems. In North America, tens of millions of low IQ Latinos illegally cross the Rio Grande River into the rich Anglo empires of the North displacing their host’s economically and politically with the aid of periodic corporate and government backed amnesty. In Australia, the Indonesian “boat people” move to colonize. In South Africa, any semblance of law and order has long since collapsed since the fall of the prosperous Apartheid government.

Everywhere Christians are complicit in the erasure, and if ethnic Europeans survive the present crisis they will look back at the dark days and (rightly) view Christian institutions as traitorous conspirators in the destruction of their people. Gone is the legacy of the medieval church and its virile crusades to push back the planned Islamic conquest of Christian Europe. Gone are the Victorian missionaries who paved the way for virtuous European empire. Today, the greatest saint is Martin Luther King Jr. A man whose personal life was filled with sexual degeneracy, but who outwardly preached a gospel of European American dispossession. A man who denied every orthodox tenet of the Christian faith. A man who told ethnic Europeans to destroy their children’s futures to advance the existence of his own people. At core, a selfish and disgusting individual, but a fitting saint for an era of Western suicide. His existence as a moral figure embodies the rot at the heart of modern Christianity.

As a Christian, I find all of this horrifying. Not only on a socio-political level but on a personal one. I have spent my first twenty five years defending Christianity and living a moral life with the sacrifices it entailed, and now I find myself lectured by former drug addicts, fornicators, the newly baptized, and social justice warriors about the meaning of my own religion. I have almost literally been ostracized from my own faith community. Christianity has been hijacked by the most biblically illiterate groups of people in the faith, and they have been given their positions of prominence by theologians more deeply influenced by post “enlightenment” liberalism and late twentieth century Cultural Marxism than by the Bible or Christian tradition. These groups have feminized the religion and turned it into a spiritualized justification for being nice and pathologically altruistic. Utterly erased is the Jesus who vandalized the temple and violently drove people out with whips simply to instill a religious point. All masculinity has been removed from today’s female dominated church. A male may stand in the pulpit (sometimes), but the sermons he preaches are entirely the words of his mother.

One of the themes of this document is the un-Christian nature of the modern concept of equality. Never in the history of mankind has God expected or valued equality. The entire idea is a human fabrication. The words “all men are created equal” should go down in history among the most self-evidently stupid ever written. Their author, an intelligent slave holder, knew they were, but needed a France deeply influenced by liberalism to join his war cause. He accomplished his goal, but in so doing helped plunge the Western world into a destructive pursuit of the impossible. To pursue equality is to pursue mediocrity, and ultimately to debase everyone to the lowest common denominator. This critique spills over into the question of democracy and monarchy. Although I do not endorse a specific political system it is worth noting that the Bible constantly supports hierarchy over egalitarianism. It does this through monarchy, oligarchy, theocracy, proto-republicanism, and patriarchy but never democracy (i.e. mob rule). In fact, the “majority” is viewed as a wicked group destined for Hell.

I compile these thoughts as a defense of my religion from the right, from whom the calls to return to paganism grow stronger with every betrayal by pope, church, theologian, or denomination calling for more immigration or greater Euroethnic guilt. My prayer for the European New Right is that they will not abandon the faith of their fathers. To my fellow Americans I call for the rise of a new movement that will embrace religion, ethnicity, and culture as the foundations of political action rather than heartless economics. I call for the reshuffling of priorities, and the replacement of cold calculations of capital and profit with what should be the central concern of human identity. Specifically, a Christian Euro-American identity.

In the modern United States, subjects find their politicians talking primarily about economics. They talk about what’s good for business, wages, trade, corporations, manufacturing, etc. It often becomes difficult to decipher whether they believe the people serve the businesses or the businesses serve the people. Identitarians believe that money should always be secondary to the preservation of the identity group who created it, and that a responsible use of it should be defined by informed religious understanding. Ultimately, governments and businesses are merely tools for the development of healthy spiritual community, and if they fail to do this they should be abolished and replaced. As Jesus said, “the love of money is the root of all evil” and as Christians we should traffic less in currency and more in duty and love. Our communities should not be united by common economic gain but by our God given ethnicity and religion. We should honor those whom God created us to honor, namely, our religious brothers/sisters and our extended families (ethnicity). These are the bedrocks of true identity. Economic status can change overnight, blood and genetics can never be altered. Material goods are often stolen, religious truth will never be lost.


http://www.christianityandrace.org/p/blog-page_18.html

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BLACK THEOLOGY & MARXISM

Black Theology focuses on Biblical interpretation from an Afroethnic perspective. Today, many leading Afroethnic theologians sit in places of prominence in the theological community and have influenced race relations throughout the world.

In pursuit of a correct interpretation of modern Afroethnic church meaning it is necessary for us to delve into the theology underlying much of what is preached and understood in those institutions. Although not all African American churches are heavily influenced by Black Theology, and some are largely connected to the mainstream Christian perspective, most African American churches have internalized at least some of the major tenets of Black Theology.

ORIGIN

Black Theology originated in the late 1960s. It developed alongside the Frankfurt School of Marxism – which influenced, and helped cause, the Cultural Revolution. The key to understanding Black Theology lies in the founders and developers of the system. Who were they?

In an article entitled The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology, Dr. Anthony B. Bradley of The King’s College wrote: “James Cone, the chief architect of Black Liberation Theology in his book ‘A Black Theology of Liberation’ (1970), develops black theology as a system.” [1]

In the “Black Theology” entry of the Evangelical Dictionary of Theology the contributor wrote: “Among his contemporaries James Cone is primus inter pares due to the number of publications and, more importantly, because they contain near normative formulations of the discipline… In the opinion of the present writer James Cone should indeed be considered the originator of the contemporary expression of black theology.” [2]

Most scholars agree that James Cone not only invented modern Black Theology, but that he represents the clearest and most vocal expression of it. As a result, I will interact with him liberally throughout this writing. Additionally, the work of South African anti-Apartheid theologian Allan A. Boesak will feature prominently to provide a global perspective on Black Theology.

JAMES CONE

James H. Cone currently holds the Charles Augustus Briggs chair of systematic theology at Union Seminary (Columbia University). Utilizing this access, his Black Theology is able to influence mainstream thinking.

In his book, For My People, Cone wrote: “The publication of the ‘Black Power Statement’ may be regarded as the beginning of the conscious development of a black theology.” The document Cone was referring to was published in 1966 by the National Committee of Negro Churchmen (NCBC) and includes these excerpts:
“It is of critical importance that the leaders of this nation listen also to a voice which says that the principal source of the threat to our nation comes neither from the riots erupting in our big cities, nor from the disagreements among the leaders of the civil rights movement, nor even from mere raising of the cry of ‘black power.’ These events, we believe, are but the expression of the judgment of God upon our nation for its failure to use its abundant resources to serve the real well-being of people, at home and abroad… the failure of American leaders to use American power to create equal opportunity in life as well as in law – this is the real problem and not the anguished cry of ‘black power.’” [3]The seeds of a materialist worldview can be found even in Black Theology’s prerequisite document. Calls for the redistribution of wealth so as to create equal living conditions strongly correlates to Marxist economics. The only primary difference being that the NCBC identified the class crisis with God’s judgment. This construction evolved into full Marxism with Cone’s formulation.

James Cone wrote:
“The origin of black theology has three major contexts: (1) the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and ‘60s, largely associated with Martin Luther King, Jr., (2) the publication of Joseph Washington’s book, Black Religion (1964); and (3) the rise of the black power movement, strongly influenced by Malcolm X’s philosophy of black nationalism.” [4 (6)]This paper will explore each of these three veins of influence in order to gain better insight into the meaning of Black Theology.

MARTIN LUTHER KING

Firstly, Cone cited Martin Luther King, Jr. (MLK) and his movement as an origin context of Black Theology. It should not be expected that Cone means the integration aspects of MLK’s program (at least not as moderns interpret it) because the later cited black nationalism runs contrary to this, and because the “Black Power” statement of 1966 rejected integration until African American power was on par with that of European Americans (which has never been achieved).

Cone emphasized the influence of MLK upon Black Theology: “From the beginning, black theology was… strongly influenced by the life and thought of Marin Luther King, Jr.” [4]

MLK’s thought was largely constructed on materialist theology massively susceptible to Marxist intrusion. This materialist thinking led to a “Kingdom of God on earth” mentality which runs dangerously close to utopian Marxism.

MLK’s theological materialism was either the result or cause of his rejection of all the major spiritual tenets of the Christian faith. As he wrote:
“In this paper we shall discuss the experiences of early Christians which lead to three rather orthodox doctrines – the divine sonship of Jesus, the virgin birth, and the bodily resurrection. Each of these doctrines is enshrined in what is known as the ‘the Apostles Creed.’ It is this creed that has stood as the ‘Symbol of Faith’ for many sincere Christians this creed has planted a seed of confusion which has grown to an oak of doubt. They see this creed as incompatible with all scientific knowledge, and so have proceeded to reject its content. But if we delve into the deeper meaning of these doctrines, and somehow strip them of their literal interpretation, we will find that they are based on a profound foundation. Although we may be able to argue with all degrees of logic that these doctrines are historically and philosophically untenable.” [5]Most relevant to his attempt to create a worldly utopia of equality and justice was his rejection of the eventual return of Christ:
“It is obvious that most twentieth century Christians must frankly and flatly reject any view of a physical return of Christ. To hold such a view would mean denying a Copernican universe, for there can be no physical return unless there is a physical place from which to return. In its literal form this belief belongs to a pre-scientific world view which we cannot accept.” [6]If Christ is not coming back than Marxism is mankind’s greatest hope, the creation of an economic, cultural, and political egalitarianship in this life. Perhaps MLK sensed this connection and moved towards cultural communism as he progressed.

Evidence of this move can be seen in who MLK chose as his top advisors. During his Civil Rights campaigns King relied upon former Communist Party USA member Stanley Levison, whom the FBI asserted wrote many of MLKs most important speeches. [7 (p. 195)] King’s organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, contained numerous Marxists and was largely controlled by Levison.

In his later years, MLK’s Marxist vision for American became increasingly obvious. King spent the last few years of his life campaigning for a socialist vision of wealth redistribution:
“In 1967, King became more critical of American society than ever before. He believed poverty was as great an evil as racism. He said that true social justice would require a redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Thus, King began to plan a Poor People’s Campaign that would unite poor people of all races in a struggle for economic opportunity. The campaign would demand a federal guaranteed annual income for poor people and other major antipoverty laws.” [8]“BLACK RELIGION”

Secondly, Cone cited the publication of Joseph White’s book “Black Religion” as a context for the development of Black Theology. As an African American, Washington asserted that the African American church did not represent authentic Christianity because it had been isolated from the truths of Euroethnic theology. As he wrote:
“Having outlived its usefulness as a community center and never having been permitted to attune its life to the dynamics of the Protestant tradition of the Christian faith, independent Negro religion is a most extraordinary phenomenon. As we have seen, Negro religion is an attempt to develop fraternalism in response to the paternalism of white Protestantism. Although it intended to imitate Protestantism, it developed solely into a racial fellowship with no other reason for existence. This pervasive spuriousness has so confused its interpreters that nearly all have concluded that “the Negro church is an ordinary American church with certain traits exaggerated because of caste.” But the contrary is true. Negro religion was never steeped in the theological, Biblical, cultural, and historical reality of Protestantism. Negro religion would wither away were it not for the forces of segregation and discrimination which demand its existence as an option for Negro outcasts.” [9 (Pg. 235-237)]Washington’s book was published in 1964 and was widely read. His belief that the African American church existed only as an ethnic fellowship was generally accepted, [20] and his assertions that Afroethnic religion did not represent authentic Christianity led to the formation of Black Theology as a counter attack against Euroethnic religion which Washington accused of having refused to allow African American churches to express Christian truth. As Washington put it:
“…Americans today recognize five major religions: Protestantism, Judaism, Roman Catholicism, secularism, and the religion of the Negro. The religion of the Negro differs from all others in being defensive, reactionary, and lacking in universal or historical appeal. It alone is stagnant… The reality of religious separation by race is not understood, nor can it be changed, by scholars who are as much outside the Christian community of faith as the Negro.” [9 (235-237)]Washington preceded to discuss how the European heritage of most American Christians segregated African Americans from the theological process because Christianity had become, through the history of Christendom, a Euroethnic religion. Euroethnics, then, have a monopoly on Christian dialogue.

In response to “Black Religion,” Black Theology developed an anti-Euroethnic edge in which it attempted to construct a theology entirely independent of the dialogue and historical flow of European Christianity. Black Theology seeks to dismiss the last two thousand years of Christian thinking in favor of religion based on Afroethnic thinkers. [10]

MALCOLM X

Thirdly, Cone indicated that the African nationalism of Malcolm X represents the third parental ideology that lead to Black Theology.

While in prison at the age of twenty, Malcolm X converted to Islam. The rest of his career was spent perpetuating the Nation of Islam’s racial doctrines concerning the inherent evil of Euroethnic people. [11]

James Cone, himself, is a believer in much of these hateful beliefs. Cone once remarked: “Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil.’” [12]

Malcolm X’s belief that race comes before religion was echoed in a statement made by the National Black Lay Catholic Caucus in 1970: “The question of whether we can be black, Christian, and Catholic is such an important question that many blacks are leaving the church because they cannot reconcile the differences. Therefore, we resolve that we are black first and then Catholic.” [4 (Pg. 50)]

THEOLOGY

Connected to the question of origins is the question of theology. What is it that Black Theology specifically stands for?

One of the most oft cited expressions of Black Theology is represented by Boesak: “Black theology is a theology of liberation.” [13 (9)] In one of his books, Boesak’s subtitle reads: “Liberation, the Content of Black Theology.” [13 (16)] Boesak elaborates:
“Liberation Theology, by beginning with the Exodus, by making of theology a critical reflection on the praxis of liberation, places the gospel in its authentic perspective, namely, that of liberation. It seeks to proclaim the gospel according to its original intention: as a gospel of the poor. In this, Black Theology seeks the God of the Bible, who is totally and completely different from the God whites have for so long preached to blacks.’” [13 (10)]What is true for Boesak is also true for James Cone. As one commentator writes:
“For Cone, no theology is Christian theology unless it arises from oppressed communities and interprets Jesus’s work as that of liberation. Christian theology is understood in terms of systematic and structural relationships between two main groups: victims (oppressed) and victimizers (oppressors). In Cone’s context, writing in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the great event of Christ’s liberation was freeing African Americans from the centuries old tyranny of white racism and white oppression.” [1]In this dynamic of oppressed against oppressors we see the obvious imprint of Marxist worldview, and in the Afroethnic/Euroethnic dynamic of Cone’s ideology one can see the direct mirror of the Proletariat/Bourgeois class struggle of Karl Marx.

As the same commentator goes on to point out: “Black liberation is Marxist liberation, and Black Liberation theologians have explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).”

For Cone no Euroethnic theology can be an accurate or holy because it does not rise out of the oppressed minority classes nor does it participate in the all-important act of material liberation.

Boesak feels entirely comfortable in a complete dismissal of the Reformation as an insignificant theological act because it had no effect upon the liberation of the non-European ethnicities:
“What must be considered one of the most significant events in the history of the Christian Church, the Reformation, bypassed completely the black situation… Whether Rome won or Wittenberg or Geneva… for the red, yellow, and black people of the world this was all irrelevant. This had no bearing whatsoever on their situation.” [13 (17)]Because of this obsession with liberation, Black theologians are consumed with the story of the Exodus. Boesak emphasizes this repeatedly throughout his writings: “In the Old Testament, the Exodus, that liberating deed par excellence, is the object of the confession of Israel,” and again: “One can safely say that the Exodus – event is as central to the Old Testament as is the resurrection to the New.” [13]

Often the Exodus as a foreshadowing of the spiritual liberation from sins in the New Testament is entirely lost on these theologians consumed with the vision of liberation as a material Marxist event.

Black Theology’s insistence that Euroethnic man, and his view of God, is evil necessitates a dismissal of him as being related to God or Christ in any form. For many Afroethnic theologians, this leads to ridiculous claims.

Among Cone’s favorite quotes is the following preached by Black Liberation thinker Cleage: “When I say Jesus was black, that Jesus was a black Messiah, I’m not saying ‘wouldn’t it be nice if Jesus was black?’ or ‘Let’s pretend Jesus was black,’ or ‘It’s necessary psychologically for us to believe that Jesus was black,’ I’m saying Jesus WAS black.”

Another of Cone’s cited favorites from Cleage: “[Jesus was a] revolutionary black leader, a member of the zealots… he sought to free Israel’s black Jews from oppression and bondage, dying not for the eternal salvation of the individual, but for the rebirth of the lost Black Nation.”
[4 (36)]

Besides being heretical, these claims demonstrate the extent to which Black Theology is an anti-Euroethnic manifestation of “Black power.” Cone followed up on his friend’s outrageous claims by asserting: “Christianity is not alien to black power; it is black power.” [5 (38)]

PURPOSE

The observation of these disturbing tendencies represented by Black Theology begs the question: what is the purpose of Black Theology?

While individuals certainly have their own personal motivations, the broader thrust of Black Theology seems to indicate a fundamentally Marxist function to undermine Western civilization by delegitimizing it. As has been discussed, Black Theology is, “A scarcely concealed, Marxist-inspired indictment of American [society].” [12]

Many Afroethnic theologians openly admit that their theological beliefs are based on eisegesis. As Cone himself said: “…blacks, themselves, had to search deeply into their own history in order to find a theological basis for their prior commitment to liberate the black poor.” [4 (36)]

Whenever possible, Afroethnic theologians attempt to slander and degrade Euroethnic society. Boesak commented: “Black history, in as far as it is also white history, can be described as one of enmity, slavery, and colonialism, factors which still have their influence in contemporary society.” [13 (30)]

Some thinkers have asserted that Black Theology was created to alienate the ethnicities from one another, and to create a cultural religion which claims truth only for itself. By doing so it becomes intolerant of Euroethnics, and claims they can only participate in the truth so long as they accept Afroethnics as superior. This suspicion is only strengthened when authors like Cone title their books “For My People,” suggesting his message was manufactured exclusively for his own group.

CONCLUSION

Black Theology is a product of the 1960s Cultural Revolution, which in turn was founded upon the principals of Marxism. The Cultural Revolution’s obsession with overturning the entirety of European Christian civilization led to the development of a theological belief system which would undermine the ethnic stock of Europe, and seek to overturn the free market principles that led to Western colonial empires. By turning the Bible into a narrative for Marxist revolution against the West, Afroethnic theologians have stripped it of the moral and social framework upon which the West was founded.

Perhaps Cone explained Black Theology best in the title of one of his chapters: “Black Theology as a Weapon Against White Religion.” [4 (34)]


http://www.christianityandrace.org/p/black-theology-as-anti-white-marxism.html
 
Valls is right. I dont see how this religion is compatible with europe at all. Considering the current development in evry european nation and the predictions of leading think tanks like STRATFOR it is possible that we see the greatest ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.

Here in italy we are a little bit stricter than others. A moroccan guy went into a church and shouted Allahu Akbar. It took officials 48h to round him and his family with 23 persons into a bus, drove the, to airport and send back to wher they came from. The time of tolerance is over.

It was a try to coexist. It didnt work so its time to solve this in the best dor both sides with strict decissions.
 
No I was not talking about sects in Christianity. I was talking about flavors of Christianity by Race (refer highlighted text below).

And I answered you and will now again :
What you are talking of are sects!
Jesus' ministry took the Law and the Prophets ( for short, the Ten Commandments )
and added universality ( not just for Jews / no caste or lower ranks in humanity ) as
well as 2 commands Love God with all your heart & Love each other as He loved us
( i.e. up to giving your life for others ).
Universality is not present in the "theologies" you cite so sects; that's a final cut there.

When you say :
For example, here we have separate segregated Churches for Desis, Blacks, Whites etc.
,
it runs contrary to the guy who defended a prostitute from stoning, said that the meek
( in India say the whole Dalits caste* ) would inherit the Earth, accepted Romans in his
flock** and lepers and even tax collectors for Pete's sake.

You are talking about what men are making of Issa's message.
I'm talking of the message itself and since that message forbids
acting towards segregation of all men, Christians OFC included,
those people are not Christians but sects.

A nice quote :
If you draw a line to separate the good Christians from the bad,
Jesus stands on the other side of that line.

I'm not really discussing faith here you see but logic.
Maybe what's at play then is the use of _ theology _.
That word within a given religious concept ( Islam or
Jews or any monotheism ) must be singular.
It should establish a singular path to each understanding
of God' word that it purports to define.

And in fine, that is why I used sect. You may be surprised
to learn that the Church considers all Reformed churches
as sects over the theological argument concerning money.
By taking the Old Testament value for hard work, Calvin
and Luther made material gain kosher again, whereas Issa
had money under a strong "anathema".
On that point, Christianity as embodied by the Church, in
Rome, the so said Catholics especially with the present Pope,
are much closer to the vision of the Quran that protects the
Faithful from evil ways induced by the use of money and
similarly puts a premium on charity.
Reform and reborn based churches are part of why America
is so "get rich" oriented for example, money enamored, it's
part of its blueprint.

So in short, no segregation amongst Christians is acceptable.
Those that call for it cannot claim Christ's heritage, if you will.
Hence sects ...




Have a great day, Tay.

* He actually implied to touch the impure, confident in your own faith
to help them and draw them back to light and life.

** [ ... while clearly denouncing Rome as a heartless profit oriented machine
of domination on men in central parts of his teachings. ]



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Come on sir!! It is not that bad, in fact, it is not bad at all.

That you could get bitten for coming in any way between a Frenchman and his baguette?
I'm actually afraid it might be an understatement ...

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