Will The US Embarrass The Indians

[loanranger]

Surely in his interrogation he must have said that he didn't shoot anything down. Pakistan should just release that footage.

Abhinandan was recorded on video saying
I was searching for a target when your Airforce shot me down. If this is not enough for you then you should also doubt if you are born yet or not.

 

[Jackdaws]

Abhinandan was recorded on video saying
I was searching for a target when your Airforce shot me down. If this is not enough for you then you should also doubt if you are born yet or not.

Where's the said video?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Funny thing is that Foreign media mostly doesn't even mention the Pakistani claim of shooting down a Su-30, let alone investigate it. At least they mention the Indian claim of shooting down the F 16 and look into it. They know that the Pakistani claim has no credibility at all.

Sure.......just like you indians also claimed to have killed exactly 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16..................where is the evidence for your claims of the foreign media?........

 

[Kabira]

Looks like IAF and PAF versions about F-16 and SU-30 are best left to speculation. But Abhinanden drinking tea like a donkey is well documented fact.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

They seem to have treated him well. So full marks to them for that. But as I said, he obviously didn't know what Indian Govt and media were saying so in his interrogation they must surely have asked him about what he did or did not do.

Anyhow, this topic doesn't have a conclusion till some facts truly emerge.

See the problem is that even if he did not say this in front of Pakistanis, it doesn't mean he didn't shoot down the F-16. He obviously won't say such a thing in Pakistani custody while they are recroding and even if he did, the Pakistanis would obviously not release that recording. They would have told him not to mention the F-16 downing.

In any case, as you said, it is impossible to find out what exactly happened until facts emerge.

 

[Windjammer]

Where's the said video?

 

[ziaulislam]

It's in Pakistan and India's best interest this doesn't come out. If one version is proven wrong. The people will cry for blood and cause major embarrassment for the army and might force them into doing something stupid.

Right now both camps are happy with the versions provided by their army, so let it be. Also US clearly wants to maintain relations with both countries, and will not do anything to spoil that.

Everyone knows from satellite images that target was missed..even indians...also indian themselve state that they panic And killed 6 of their people ...what's worse mig21 was jammed per Indian source

The only face saving event the f16 shot down by mig21 makes no sense they should have claimed it was a mirage/su 30

But hey with mig21 down they can wash their hands that evidence is with pakistan..

 

[PradoTLC]

It's in Pakistan and India's best interest this doesn't come out. If one version is proven wrong. The people will cry for blood and cause major embarrassment for the army and might force them into doing something stupid.

Right now both camps are happy with the versions provided by their army, so let it be. Also US clearly wants to maintain relations with both countries, and will not do anything to spoil that.

Only the indian version seems wrong...

no body has bought the indian story except indians them selves... indians did too much lying

> Surgical strike 1.0 & 2.0: Busted
> F-16 engine scam : Busted
> 23 min in Pakistan airspace : busted
> Mi-17 crashed due to "technical" problems: busted
> F-16s that was shot down was from Jordan : busted
> F-16 pilot name of absurd some retired dude story : busted
> F-16 count story source from a pentagon reporter again : busted



besides the proof is in the podding... India backed down .. not Pakistan . If you really did shoot down a Mig-21 you have nothing to worry about. Yet every thing we see proves with out doubt a major IAF asset fell out of the sky. from your PM statements to the fact you are scrambling to get better long range missiles, to an independent observer it proves with out doubt PAF owned IAF that day.

What IAF spanking?

We shot down our own chopper? It was a war like situation and someone made a colossal mistake and they are being dealt with.

India managed to chase PAF out in quick time and one pilot ended up crossing into Pakistani airspace. You downed him, but India's aggressive diplomacy meant the situation didn't end up embarrassing India.

That's the Indian version. And it's what they choose to believe here.

And no Indians won't believe sun revolves around the earth because there are plenty of sources to prove otherwise. What other source proves Pak version is right and India's is wrong? or otherwise as well?

You backed down... usually a loser does that.

No body saw PAF backing down

jezzz.. you clowns were so confused you shot your own aircraft down.. you clearly didnt know what you were doing

Funny thing is that Foreign media mostly doesn't even mention the Pakistani claim of shooting down a Su-30, let alone investigate it. At least they mention the Indian claim of shooting down the F 16 and look into it. They know that the Pakistani claim has no credibility at all.

they dont need to mention it. They know if PAF is making a claim it is probably true

IAF has long history of getting it;s arse kicked in war time and in peace. Indian pilots are not well rated.

Sure.......just like you indians also claimed to have killed exactly 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16..................where is the evidence for your claims of the foreign media?........

correction they claimed 350 dead.. plus they were on Pakistan aerospace for 23+ minutes..

hahhahha

these indicks dont realise what clowns they are.

 

[Jackdaws]

Thanks. You are showing me a video with an actual edit cut which doesn't let him complete what he is saying?

 

[Skywalker]

Only those people emabarrass who got self respect, where endia comes into this.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Really? You think the Americans would want to advertise that their F16 was brought down by a significantly older MiG 21?

There was news of all F16s being accounted for by a third party(an American journalist)...would u care to provide a count of ur Su30MKI by some credible third party?

 

[Jackdaws]

There was news of all F16s being accounted for by a third party(an American journalist)...would u care to provide a count of ur Su30MKI by some credible third party?

The same US which denied it has ever done a count?

 

[Baby Leone]

lol even if their God Ram will come and say the truth Indians RSS govt and their un ethical and uneducated media will call Ram traitor, ISI and Pakistani agent.

Hate and lie has become bread and butter of current Indian establishment. so US satellite cant do anything nor it is required anymore as the whole world know the truth which is totally opposite to indian rhetoric.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

The same US which denied it has ever done a count?

When did the US denied the report???

 

[Cookie Monster]

Thanks. You are showing me a video with an actual edit cut which doesn't let him complete what he is saying?

So now that he is in India...what's stopping him from publicly saying all the things India is claiming?
Ever since Abhinandan was returned...he hasn't publicly said he shot down the F16.

The same US which denied it has ever done a count?

Again can u provide a similar report by a credible third party journalist for ur Su30MKI count? The point is that there's third parties confirming Pak's side of the story like F16 count, Indian strikes being unsuccessful in hitting their target, etc. I have yet to see anything from a credible third party source confirming Indian side of the story.

See the problem is that even if he did not say this in front of Pakistanis, it doesn't mean he didn't shoot down the F-16. He obviously won't say such a thing in Pakistani custody while they are recroding and even if he did, the Pakistanis would obviously not release that recording. They would have told him not to mention the F-16 downing.

In any case, as you said, it is impossible to find out what exactly happened until facts emerge.

Pak said F16 wasnt shot down
---> Indians: Pakistan is lying

Abhinandan in Pak custody didn't say he shot down F16
---> Indians: Video was edited...he was told to read from a script...etc.

Pak released images of all the missiles on Abhinandan's Mig21 accounted for(therefore couldn't have shot the F16)
---> Indians: bought off of eBay, doctored image, etc.

A credible American journalist said all F16s are accounted for
---> Indians: dont believe it and I heard everything from things like China providing Pak with a mock up...to Pak tricking the US by changing the serial number of one of the F16s and having it counted twice

If u guys r going to invent excuses for any sort of proof presented whether by Pak or some non Pak source...then no matter how many times the truth comes out...ur mind is made up and no amount of evidence is going to change it.

Why not ask Abhinandan now that he is in India? He has been there a while...why hasn't he said on record that he shot down an F16?

When did the US denied the report???

It didn't...the Pentagon chose the typical cautious approach of neither confirming nor denying. They said "they are not aware of any such count". This is not a denial of the count.
Edit: More importantly this above account of an "unnamed pentagon spokesperson" saying that was only reported in Indian news sources...so it's questionable at best.
@Jackdaws