Will The US Embarrass The Indians

[Jackdaws]

A video that was published by the most widely read English Daily in UK is not up to Indian standards.
Abhinandan clearly says that he was TRYING to look for a target, not that he found any targets or was chasing any.
However, the IAF pilot was released within 48 hours, it's been almost 8 months and he's back flying.
One would expect for him to be compelled to release his statement making the F-16 claim.....perhaps you should focus on that.

What standards? Are you saying you can't notice the edit jumps?

 

[Windjammer]

What standards? Are you saying you can't notice the edit jumps?

I heard him say that he was trying to look for a target.
He could have easily said, i was chasing a target.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

surprise?..

so after you bombed our trees you think we wont react?.. when we clearly told you we would.

So IAF is deluded also ....


interestingly we asked PAF pilots how they assessed IAF on 27 Feb. They state, IAF conducted incredible tactical errors entering a combat zone with degraded communications and situational awareness... it was an ambush where a more able pilots would have simply withdrawn rather than force a bad position.

PAF & PLAAF did a similar exercise in China where Su-27s and JF-17 and Mirage Vs and AWAC were pitting in a some what similar theme... IAF needs to watch PDF....

WTF is your point again ?

I already conceded it was a show of incompetence by IAF on the said day. What the hell are you going on about ? What do you want me to say ?

It's alright if you or your Air Force want to underestimate the IAF. Since you are all that confident, come and take Kashmir no instead of going around crying in front of the whole world ?

 

[Windjammer]

Bottom line is that Lockheed Martin, recently put up this picture of a PAF F-16B on their site.
Nothing unusual except, this particular example was manufactured in 1992, it was handed over to the PAF in 2015. Above all it's the type that is no longer produced by the company. Displaying picture of a 27 year old discontinued example in PAF colours for publicity is self explanatory.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

As for believing, I'll go with the fact that the Indian Airforce itself stated that the copter that went down was it's fault, not not due to enemy action. This openness is in the best traditions of the Indian Armed forces, something that gives great credence to their other claims.

For the bold part, do not engage in disinformation. From the day one, in the aftermath of operation swift retort and debriefing that followed, the DG ISPR categorically said that shooting down of the India chopper was not the result of Pakistani kinetic operations over Indian controlled skies and non of Pakistani assets were used against the Indian chopper.

That left with only two scenarios, either an accident or fratricide. Ofcourse Pakistan knew what happened to the chopper and release the info via information warfare tools, the media. Its funny though while India making outlandish claims of Bollywood hero Abhinandon shooting down F16 within days and not coming up with answers about the chooper immediately and took months to finally admit the fate.

 

[Cookie Monster]

You are saying the video isn't edited?

How about u say anything meaningful other than ur one liners? U got any concrete arguments to refute what I said? Or u just gonna troll bcuz u have no argument?

 

[IndianGuy_]

we believe bcos our pilot a CSS topgun says so...

We too believe our armed forces who told us that they succeeded in what they set out to do and downed an F16, destroyed a terror site in balakot.

Now you may live in a parallel reality and mock us for doing so. But we do the same here. lol

 

[Jackdaws]

How about u say anything meaningful other than ur one liners? U got any concrete arguments to refute what I said? Or u just gonna troll bcuz u have no argument?

Arre, at least reply. Is it an edited video or not?

 

[ziaulislam]

We too believe our armed forces who told us that they succeeded in what they set out to do and downed an F16, destroyed a terror site in balakot.

Now you may live in a parallel reality and mock us for doing so. But we do the same here. lol

i understand if you want to believe that but comeup with an explanation ..
it should be like this..
Pakistan rapidly deployed its forces via para shoot to rebuild the armada with quick cement with 24 hours incurring the concrete top..than blew up surrounding areas with 1000s tones of dynamite to stimulate the damage zones..this was than seen in satellite images after 24 hours

in mean while pakistan used its deep space laser technology to block the satellites

personally i refuse to accept IAF can be this incompetent to miss with guided weapons...but than how did they shoot their own helicopters..that even bigger degree of incompetence

 

[IndianGuy_]

but than how did they shoot their own helicopters..that even bigger degree of incompetence

That is quite shocking to be honest. Perhaps they didn't expect Pakistan to retaliate so soon, and were caught off guard, panicked and shot down their own chopper. Foolish to not expect the worst from them and a valuable lesson too I might add

 

[ziaulislam]

That is quite shocking to be honest. Perhaps they didn't expect Pakistan to retaliate so soon, and were caught off guard, panicked and shot down their own chopper. Foolish to not expect the worst from them and a valuable lesson too I might add

so thy ccan shoot their own target but cant miss..lol
persoanlly i am sure they would have covered it up just like with balakot strikes had it not been in public areas with so many witnesses

remeber day 1 pakistani said it was friendly fire even before you guys came up with answer lol

 

[SIPRA]

persoanlly i am sure they would have covered it up just like with balakot strikes had it not been in public areas with so many witnesses

They would surely have come up with well known technical fault theory; but there were virtually hundred of eye witnesses there. So truth was forced upon them.

 

[IndianGuy_]

so thy ccan shoot their own target but cant miss..lol

They can. In India we aren't conditioned to believe India is best at everything and they aren't prone to failures. Which is why you saw India quickly acknowledging that we downed our own chopper in a big mixup. That has been taken care of.

As for did India miss? Well your binary thinking of equating a with b and saying how both aren't possible is funny.

Let me break it down as simple as I can for you to understand it.

One was an operation that was carefully crafted with intelligence agency involved. Weeks of preparation. They say they did it, and got the job done. We believe it. Pakistan can claim tree terrorism all they want, we know they hit the target.

Other was a failure in war like situation. It shouldn't have happened but it did. Learning curve.

 

[ziaulislam]

They can. In India we aren't conditioned to believe India is best at everything and they aren't prone to failures. Which is why you saw India quickly acknowledging that we downed our own chopper in a big mixup. That has been taken care of.

As for did India miss? Well your binary thinking of equating a with b and saying how both aren't possible is funny.

Let me break it down as simple as I can for you to understand it.

One was an operation that was carefully crafted with intelligence agency involved. Weeks of preparation. They say they did it, and got the job done. We believe it. Pakistan can claim tree terrorism all they want, we know they hit the target.

Other was a failure in war like situation. It shouldn't have happened but it did. Learning curve.

let me make it simple for IQ of < 70..
if a building is standing after 2000 lb bomb than
a. you missed (what the world thinks)
b. if you claim you didn't than you have mental retardation/developmental delay(what Indians think)

my advise make a better excuse like what i recommended before..that pakistan built it overnight

 

[masterchief_mirza]

In India we aren't conditioned to believe India is best at everything and they aren't prone to failures. Which is why you saw India quickly acknowledging that we downed our own chopper in a big mixup. That has been taken care of.

But don't you get it? It isn't because you are conditioned in objectivity, rationality or even basic common sense that India respected your wisdom and simply acknowledged the downing of its own chopper. It is in fact because Indian officials are like 7 yr old kids, who will cover up any cock up that they possibly can. This particular cock up simply could not be weaseled out of with any degree of plausible deniability. Eyewitnesses saw it. A LOCAL WAS KILLED BY THE CRASH. Most importantly, the black box was never found, so the incriminating evidence on the black box remained at large, which would thwart any attempt to construct a false narrative. What if Pakistan got hold of that box? Pakistan could blow any false narrative out of the water regarding the mi17 loss. India could not take that risk. India knew on day 1 what happened, just stalled and stalled and stalled again, waiting for the elections to pass but also hoping the black box would turn up.