Will Israel launch an attack against Iran nuclear facilities this summer?

[drmeson]

Btw I like this rivalry between Iran, an Iranic-Turkic Shia Theocracy with ancient colonizer superpower history vs Israel a Zionist multicultural country made for people who just wanted to survive, supported by people who rule this world. Both are ancient minority groups known for their use of minds before hands which is why we have not seen the militaristic stupidity from either side except for some mild level tit for tat attacks. They can kill one of ours through paid terrorism, who btw will be replaced by someone better by morning and we arm savage proxies sitting on their borders with an ever-growing lethal arsenal of weaponry to mass murder Israelis when required but none would go to war for the very simple reason that if does not suit either of us, there is nothing to achieve for both of us at the end of the conflict. The moment the first bullet is fired there will be an unending exchange of Ballistic/Cruise Missiles and UCAV attacks on each other's nuclear sites, military complexes, airbases, etc. (fighter jets can not reach) This is why it is just not happening for the last 18 years, now it is just impossible.

Rivalry with Israel has brought the best out of post-revolution and war Iran I would say. If we are today firing SLVs and arming ourselves with precision IRBMs it is only because of Israel.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Btw I like this rivalry between Iran, an Iranic-Turkic Shia Theocracy with ancient colonizer superpower history vs Israel a Zionist multicultural country made for people who just wanted to survive, supported by people who rule this world. Both are ancient minority groups known for their use of minds before hands which is why we have not seen the militaristic stupidity from either side except for some mild level tit for tat attacks. They can kill one of ours through paid terrorism, who btw will be replaced by someone better by morning and we arm savage proxies sitting on their borders with an ever-growing lethal arsenal of weaponry to mass murder Israelis when required but none would go to war for the very simple reason that if does not suit either of us, there is nothing to achieve for both of us at the end of the conflict. The moment the first bullet is fired there will be an unending exchange of Ballistic/Cruise Missiles and UCAV attacks on each other's nuclear sites, military complexes, airbases, etc. (fighter jets can not reach) This is why it is just not happening for the last 18 years, now it is just impossible.

Rivalry with Israel has brought the best out of post-revolution and war Iran I would say. If we are today firing SLVs and arming ourselves with precision IRBMs it is only because of Israel.

What? Israel is having peace agreements with everyone it ever fought, Israel was allied with Iran, Iran is the one that had an Islamic revolution and made Israel its enemy, and as a result isolated itself

Iran dedicates itself to the destruction of Israel, it openly admits that

 

[Beny Karachun]

Irrelevant at this point. A few thousand IR-6’s could be put in a secret location and Iran could breakout very rapidly. So destroying a few sites doesn’t do much.

Iran’s nuclear program isnt able to be destroyed anymore since its self sufficient with the whole nuclear cycle. Unlike Iraq and Syria back in the day.

Syria also thought their site was secret, only a few dozen people in Syria knew about this place, they only communicated through letters about this, yet Israel still found out about it. Same thing will happen in Iran.

The war won't be just against Iran's nuclear program.

 

[drmeson]

What? Israel is having peace agreements with everyone it ever fought, Israel was allied with Iran, Iran is the one that had an Islamic revolution and made Israel its enemy, and as a result isolated itself

Iran dedicates itself to the destruction of Israel, it openly admits that

No Jew you are wrong. You are having empty peace agreements with poodle governments or sheikhdoms that are installed/literally controlled by two-bit officers of the CIA, not their actual public. Go to a street in Saudi Arabia or Cairo and tell people I am a Zionist who supports violence against Palestinians and see how many pieces of you will be found yards away from each other. Your people historically have been very clever with money business and wartime propaganda, admirable qualities as a group how much you have achieved in those departments but there is a reason you fail at politics, never created a single large empire, and always end up being massacred.

Here is a fun fact, Iranians probably are one of the most Jew-friendly people in the Islamic world. Even today. I am a proud Iranian Azeri but I think rivalry with Israel is merely a tool for us. Israelis know this which is why we both mouth off and then nothing happes. But then whatever ...

 

[khansaheeb]

I feel pity on Iranians. Every Month their general or scientist is blown into pieces, their coward army can just kill sunnis and spread terror on neighbouring countries, but donot have balls to attack isreal. These Iranians are more cowardly than Indians. Their army should start wearing bangles and do mujra.

None can be more cowardly than Indians and Israelis.

Iran will be attached in 2025. this is final. My Personal Guess.

No , Iran will be attacked every day in propaganda

 

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Iran is already under attack through assassinations and terror attacks on its facilities.

Israel seems to be able to get the destructive results through its covert operations.

an all out attack on Iranian installation may not happen until Israel gets active support from its Arab allies in order to demonstrate a political and diplomatic domination as well. Although a military strike doesnt need UAE or Saudi support.

 

[TheImmortal]

Syria also thought their site was secret, only a few dozen people in Syria knew about this place, they only communicated through letters about this, yet Israel still found out about it. Same thing will happen in Iran.

The war won't be just against Iran's nuclear program.

Completely different scenarios.

Syria went the plutonium reactor route with foreign assistance. It’s entire nuclear program was based around one reactor similar to Iraq.

Iran doesn’t use reactors to enrich nuclear material.

So again as long as Iran has access to uranium, it can stick centrifuges anywhere and enrich to weapons grade.

Once IR-9 (50x capability of an IR-1 centrifuge) is fully ready, you could have 500 centrifuges do the entire output of Natanz right now. Imagine how easy it is hiding 500
Centrifuges.

Like I said in the long run, stopping Iranian from detonating a 1940’s era technology is not feasible. You can delay a tad, but the ending to the story is the same. A nuclear armed Iran.

Attacking iran doesn’t make Israel any safer. If Israel is hoping an attack triggers regime change that is very difficult when IRGC controls major parts of the economy. And if you want to do a Force backed regime changed that will need 500,000+ troops. Iran is mountain terrain and is walled off by natural geography.

So land invasion of Iran is basically impossible outside of a massive land war that the US/Europe has zero appetite for.

 

[drmeson]

Iran is already under attack through assassinations and terror attacks on its facilities.

Israel seems to be able to get the destructive results through its covert operations.

an all out attack on Iranian installation may not happen until Israel gets active support from its Arab allies in order to demonstrate a political and diplomatic domination as well. Although a military strike doesnt need UAE or Saudi support.

- by that theory, every country in the region is under attack since most are facing foreign-funded terrorist attacks and target murders. Iran actually has the least amount of terror attacks.

- The results you are mentioning mean literally nothing. Some Israeli paid terrorism and assassination will not stop anything, the guy will be replaced by someone better by morning.

- Israeli fighters cant reach Iran so their choices are limited to Missile strikes and UCAVS. Which we can replicate multifold. Even if they fire a Jericho 2/3 at one of our facilities it will not even reduce 10% of the nuclear program.

 

[kingQamaR]

Q-Why does Israel have missiles that reach beyond Iran?

A: Obviously because Israel have reasons to believe that it may be necessary to deliver some payload to places beyond Iran.

Pakistan???

 

[drmeson]

The thing with the Jew mindset in Tel Aviv is that these guys know very well that they can stop literally anything inside Iran. All the noise we hear about 5000 Syrians died and 5 bases destroyed every night by mighty Jew airforce comes from nowhere but typical Jew-lie factory of Haaretz, JPost, and Debka, etc to come across as tough but ground reality wise what is changing? Has Assad gone? Has Hezbollah or Hamas gone? The fact of the matter is these Iranian-backed entities are getting more strongly entrenched in that region despite all the "Mighty Jew dealt with the enemy last night" news they post to fool Goyim. For domestic consumption or to gain the favor of some neo-con mafia in the American establishment they might have tried firing Jerichos at Natanz back in the day, they did not when they actually could have succeeded but not anymore, first projectile from them will be detected some 700 km away and our silos will breathe fire towards Dimona and their bases too. Hezb, Hamas, and Shia militias will start a bloody war with them. Jew know this ain't Arabs they are fighting in 67, 73 or whenever they beat the hell out of Arabs. This enemy is an ancient colonizer, calm, and believes in quiet strategy rather than noise. This is why I posted above this rivalry is a good one. Both sides are rational.

 

[libertad]

They dont need to, they r sabotaging their nuclear facilities, killing their nuclear scientists killing their military leaders. If they can achieve all that so easily, why bother to attack? Lolz

Their sabotage and assassinations are not changing anything. They are enriching even more now.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Q-Why does Israel have missiles that reach beyond Iran?

A: Obviously because Israel have reasons to believe that it may be necessary to deliver some payload to places beyond Iran.

Pakistan???

Not often talked about, but factual quotes:

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Israeli professor says 'We could destroy all European capitals'

Occupied Jerusalem: 1 February, 2003 (IAP News)

An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.

Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force."

Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that "collective deportation" was Israel's only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people.

"The Palestinians should all be deported. The people who strive for this (the Israeli government) are waiting only for the right man and the right time. Two years ago, only 7 or 8 per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution, two months ago it was 33 per cent, and now, according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent."

Creveld said he was sure that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians.

"I think it's quite possible that he wants to do that. He wants to escalate the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed."

Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rouge state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."

Creveld argued that Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rouge state.

"Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under."

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It's included on his Wikipedia page too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

When the mindset is that their own allies could qualify as potential targets, everyone else will too from the perspective of this rogue entity.

 

[BHAN85]

Iran is already under attack through assassinations and terror attacks on its facilities.

Israel seems to be able to get the destructive results through its covert operations.

an all out attack on Iranian installation may not happen until Israel gets active support from its Arab allies in order to demonstrate a political and diplomatic domination as well. Although a military strike doesnt need UAE or Saudi support.

They already had that support since years ago.

Saudis ‘would let Israeli jets use their air space to attack Iran’

Kingdom merely wants 'some sign of progress' on Palestinian issue, according to unnamed senior European source in TV report

www.timesofisrael.com

(2015 news, months before than Iran Deal).

And In 2017 remember Qatar diplomatic crisis, and escalation through Tehran attacks June 2017, USA aircraft carrier visiting Haifa July 2017, and Hezbollah unveiled a missile factory when the carrier came.

The fact is: A first strike of Israel against Iran is suicidal for Israel people, thousands would die in a nonsense war.
Only corrupt Israeli politicians who take directly American orders support that kind of attack.
And they can not give that kind of suicidal order to Israel state, because they wont obbey.

So USA plot is a progressive soft escalation.

 

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Iraq (1981)

Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin viewed the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iraq under Saddam Hussein as an existential threat to Israel. On June 7, 1981, a squadron of Israeli jet aircraft surreptitiously traversed Jordanian and Saudi Arabian air space to bomb Iraq’s French-made Osiris-type nuclear reactor near Baghdad. The surprise airstrike was carried out before the reactor was loaded with nuclear fuel and became operational. Though a tactical success, the efficacy of the 1981 air strike is still debated. Proponents declare that the blow to the Iraqi program bought time—not an inconsequential goal in nonproliferation policy. Skeptics counter that the Israeli raid was a strategic failure that did not deter Iraq from acquiring nuclear weapons and may have provided Saddam with further motivation to do so. The stark reality is that a small overt program exponentially expanded into a large covert program after 1981.

Syria (2007)

In spring 2007, the United States was informed by a “foreign intelligence partner,” presumably Israel, that Syria was constructing a nuclear reactor, evidently modeled on the North Korean facility at Yongbyon, capable of producing weapons-grade plutonium. In response, the Bush administration considered either bombing the facility or reporting Syria’s action to the IAEA. When Bush asked the U.S. intelligence community for its assessment, CIA director Michael Hayden reported that the agency had “high confidence” the facility was a nuclear reactor, but only “low confidence” of a weapons program because of the absence of a facility to separate plutonium from the reactor fuel rods. Bush rejected an Israeli request to bomb the facility, telling Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that he could not authorize a strike on a “sovereign nation” without proof that it was a “weapons program.” Bush’s hesitancy on Syria came in the wake of the WMD intelligence fiasco in Iraq. Another factor reportedly underlying the decision was concern that a U.S. attack on Syria could trigger an escalation in Syrian meddling in Iraq, which the United States was desperately attempting to stabilize in the face of a determined Sunni insurgency. Israel bombed the Syrian nuclear facility on September 6, 2007. That it was bombed during the construction phase, before the nuclear core was loaded, reduced the risk of collateral damage to the environment. Syria did not retaliate against Israel for the air strike on a nascent facility whose existence the Damascus regime denied.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/irans-nuclear-challenge-and-military-option-nonproliferation-precedents-and-case

Sooner or Llater Israel will bomb Iran. It already has attacked the nuclear facilities by Stuxnet and assassinations. Israel will have collateral damage but it will nevertheless strike with a great military operation perhaps lasting a few days. It will be difficult but U.S. involvement in the operation will certainly make things easy militarily.
I would like to see SAMs vs Air Power of IAF, USAF/USN with drones too. IRIAF is not a threat.

 

[drmeson]