Which arms could Iran Export when international embargo ends?

[Muhammed45]

well i dig into some info about our cruise missiles. the Chinese missiles and their Iranian derivatives can be summarized and fell in these categories:
C-802==>noor==>ghadir==>gaader
respective ranges: 120 km==>170 km==>220 km==>300 km
ghadir has the capability to be launched from deep in land instead of shore. this means enemy naval units will have less chances to retaliate against the missile's launcher. also gadeer has the capability to be launched from air force f-4s alongside of naval and land assets. in the Iranian versions radar, navigating system, altimeter and ECM systems are changed. the next generation will be moghtader cruise missile with 600 km range.
C-704==>nasr==>nasr basir==>airborne nasr==>nasir
nasr uses both TV and radar seekers, it weights 350 kg which 130 kg of it is for warhead and it's range is 35 km.
nasr basir uses IIR seeker
airborne nasr can be launched from helicopters and fighter jets.
nasir keeps the specifications of nasr but instead of a rocket engine it uses turbojet and thus it's range is around 170 km.
last generation is based on C-701:
C-701==>kowsar-1==>kowsar-2==>kowsar-3==>zafar
kowsar-1 is R engineered C-701 with 15 km range, ~100 kg weight and 29 kg warhead.
in kowsar-2 and kowsar-3 range increased to 25 km and seeker changed.
in zafar range is around 25-30 km warhead is 30 kg and overall weight is 120 kg.


so we have three generation of missiles which they are based on C-701, C-704 and C-802. images of the mentioned missiles:

kowsar:

zafar:

nasr:

nasr basir:

air borne nasr:

nasir:

noor (right) next to gadeer (left):

ghadir:

gaader:

ariborne gaader (the white one):

So nice. You Know more than usual bro, i think a silly commentator like me has to Learn from your kind in this forum. Thanks for the informative post. I learned alot about variants of airborne cruise missiles.
Thanks again

 

[Messerschmitt]

where is the winglets on these two missile, do you know what is the winglets???, an they are almost same those minor changes Iran can easliy be made, your Soumar and
Hoveyzeh cruise missile are also copy of Russian K-55 Kent

'Soumar' and 'Hoveyzeh', two ground-launched LACMs, are copies of the air-launched Kh-55 cruise missile?

 

[Mithridates]

So nice. You Know more than usual bro, i think a silly commentator like me has to Learn from your kind in this forum. Thanks for the informative post. I learned alot about variants of airborne cruise missiles.
Thanks again

lol bro you're being modest. I just categorized what I read about our cruise missiles.

 

[Muhammed45]

lol bro you're being modest. I just categorized what I read about our cruise missiles.

No of course not. I really enjoyed reading your post please keep informing us.

12) Iranian made attack helicopters.
First Iranian try to develop a completely homemade attack helicopter. The First try was Toophan-1 which had DNA of American Cobra AH-1 attack helicopter. But in its Toophan-2 version its become a completely different beast. The only similarity between Toophan-2 and American Cobra is their Appearance. The modernised parts of Toophan-1 operated in Toophan-2 attack helicopter :
New Gyroscope. New One is capable of Zooming 30X, equipped with Infrared front camera and a laser range Finder being operated in both Night and day modes, new multi-purpose display, new HUD, new Infrared camera.
Toophan-1 and Toophan-2 in One image

New subsystems of Toophan-2

 

[Sineva]

where is the winglets on these two missile, do you know what is the winglets???, an they are almost same those minor changes Iran can easliy be made, your Soumar and
Hoveyzeh cruise missile are also copy of Russian K-55 Kent

Ahh...NO!
The airframe may be based on the design of the old mid 70s cold war era soviet kh-55 cruise missile but its almost guaranteed that virtually everything else inside that airframe would be brand new and pretty much state of the art,after all I cant really see the iranians going to all the trouble to reverse engineer 1970s era soviet electronics and computer systems for things like tercom when they have access to modern computers and the ability to indigenously produce modern inertial guidance systems using laser ring or fiber optic gyros.In addition for the hoveyzeh the iranians didnt bother with the drop down engine function that was one of the features to make the soviet missile more compact for air launching.but instead went for a simpler fixed turbojet engine.
This is virtually an entirely new reengineered weapon based on a previously designed airframe,not a reverse engineered weapon thats basically a complete copy or near copy of someone elses design.

 

[yavar]

well i dig into some info about our cruise missiles. the Chinese missiles and their Iranian derivatives can be summarized and fell in these categories:
C-802==>noor==>ghadir==>gaader
respective ranges: 120 km==>170 km==>220 km==>300 km
ghadir has the capability to be launched from deep in land instead of shore. this means enemy naval units will have less chances to retaliate against the missile's launcher. also gadeer has the capability to be launched from air force f-4s alongside of naval and land assets. in the Iranian versions radar, navigating system, altimeter and ECM systems are changed. the next generation will be moghtader cruise missile with 600 km range.
C-704==>nasr==>nasr basir==>airborne nasr==>nasir
nasr uses both TV and radar seekers, it weights 350 kg which 130 kg of it is for warhead and it's range is 35 km.
nasr basir uses IIR seeker
airborne nasr can be launched from helicopters and fighter jets.
nasir keeps the specifications of nasr but instead of a rocket engine it uses turbojet and thus it's range is around 170 km.
last generation is based on C-701:
C-701==>kowsar-1==>kowsar-2==>kowsar-3==>zafar
kowsar-1 is R engineered C-701 with 15 km range, ~100 kg weight and 29 kg warhead.
in kowsar-2 and kowsar-3 range increased to 25 km and seeker changed.
in zafar range is around 25-30 km warhead is 30 kg and overall weight is 120 kg.


so we have three generation of missiles which they are based on C-701, C-704 and C-802. images of the mentioned missiles:

kowsar:

zafar:

nasr:

nasr basir:

air borne nasr:

nasir:

noor (right) next to gadeer (left):

ghadir:

gaader:

ariborne gaader (the white one):

wrong analogy,
the C802 project was jointly project, which China violated agreement and then Iran had to secure parts from all over world to finish project on its own.
China cheated Iran and it took Iran decade to finish the project

موشک C۸۰۲ پروژه مشترک ایران و چین بود
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/965897/موشک-C۸۰۲-پروژه-مشترک-ایران-و-چین-بود-ناگفته-هایی-از-ساخت-ناوشکن

https://tn.ai/2017124


so you cant compare the two,
the Iranian missile has western components in it and it has different electronic and body

 

[zhxy]

wrong analogy,
the C802 project was jointly project will China violated agreement and then Iran had to secure parts from all over world to finish project.
China cheated Iran and it took Iran decade to finish the project

That is why Iran conflicts with all countries in the region

In the eyes of the Iranians, the whole world is at fault with them.

 

[yavar]

In the eyes of the Iranians, the whole world is at fault with them.

is got nothing to do whole world so please stop spreading your nonsense
second of all it was international military protocol agreement and the documents are still available and it qoite clear what both side agreed too.
and guess what this not first time China done this
this is recent one

Iran President Rouhani: China violation JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal)

In an exclusive interview with IRIB News Agency on Tuesday, Ali Akbar Salehi he head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) explain how China is in violation later JCPOA and how China failed to fulfillment it signed agreement under JCPOA

I am just trying to set record straight here, we have some members here like yourself who trying to promote or project China Iran strategic partnership which is total fallacy and it does not exites.

now in 2020 when U.S with it navy and aircraft carriers are in south China sea
and China India confilict is taken place
China wants partnership

what joke, realy , okay

 

[zhxy]

The problem for the Iranians is that the Iranian ego is huge and always blames others.

 

[Figaro]

The problem for the Iranians is that the Iranian ego is huge and always blames others.

Which is why Iran has a huge problem ever garnering international sympathy. The Iraqis killed tens of thousands of Iranians using chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war ... yet the rest of the world did nothing towards this war crime. In 1988, an Iranian passenger plane was shot down and 300 civilians died, yet no one cared. And in 2020, their top general was killed in an airstrike that was probably in breach of international law, and yet no one did anything.

wrong analogy,
the C802 project was jointly project, which China violated agreement and then Iran had to secure parts from all over world to finish project on its own.
China cheated Iran and it took Iran decade to finish the project

موشک C۸۰۲ پروژه مشترک ایران و چین بود
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/965897/موشک-C۸۰۲-پروژه-مشترک-ایران-و-چین-بود-ناگفته-هایی-از-ساخت-ناوشکن

https://tn.ai/2017124


so you cant compare the two,
the Iranian missile has western components in it and it has different electronic and body

Well what do you expect? Iran and China aren't really allies at all ... its not like Iran is the new Pakistan. China is just using Iran for strategic benefit, as are the Russians. Let's not forget that the former USSR supplied billions of dollars of weapons for the Iraqis to use during the Iraq-Iran War. Or how the USSR invaded Iran in 1941. Any long term friendship between Iran and Russia is just a smokescreen.

 

[zhxy]

Which is why Iran has a huge problem ever garnering international sympathy. The Iraqis killed tens of thousands of Iranians using chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war ... yet the rest of the world did nothing towards this war crime. In 1988, an Iranian passenger plane was shot down and 300 civilians died, yet no one cared. And in 2020, their top general was killed in an airstrike that was probably in breach of international law, and yet no one did anything.

frogs in the well. This arrogance and ignorance will cost them dearly
If all Iranians think China is at fault with them, very well, China should stop dealing with Iran, then cooperate with Saudi Arabia.

The only G20 member to have lined up on China's side was Mohammad bin Salman's Saudi Arabia

https://www.theage.com.au/business/...less-china-is-in-trouble-20200709-p55adj.html
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[Figaro]

frogs in the well. This arrogance and ignorance will cost them dearly
If all Iranians think China is at fault with them, very well, China should stop dealing with Iran, then cooperate with Saudi Arabia.

Iran cannot criticize China because it really needs Chinese money and influence to help bolster the government. IIRC, the Iranian health minister criticized the Chinese coronavirus case numbers, saying they were fake, and was immediately slammed by the Revolutionary Guard. Really goes to show how much Iran needs China and Russia. Why raise tensions with one of the only two major powers who are shielding you from the rest of the world?

 

[SalarHaqq]

The problem for the Iranians is that the Iranian ego is huge and always blames others.

Which is why Iran has a huge problem ever garnering international sympathy. The Iraqis killed tens of thousands of Iranians using chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war ... yet the rest of the world did nothing towards this war crime. In 1988, an Iranian passenger plane was shot down and 300 civilians died, yet no one cared. And in 2020, their top general was killed in an airstrike that was probably in breach of international law, and yet no one did anything.

Well what do you expect? Iran and China aren't really allies at all ... its not like Iran is the new Pakistan. China is just using Iran for strategic benefit, as are the Russians. Let's not forget that the former USSR supplied billions of dollars of weapons for the Iraqis to use during the Iraq-Iran War. Or how the USSR invaded Iran in 1941. Any long term friendship between Iran and Russia is just a smokescreen.

A Vietnamese (?) person teaming up with a subject supportive of the US regime, a regime which, no longer than a generation ago, proceeded to mass slaughter no less than several million Vietnamese in the most dastardly ways imaginable, in order to deride the epicenter of global resistance against Washington's warmongering... how rich!

As to the quoted diatribe, so a supposed behavioural flaw claimed to characterize a whole nation's individual members is now a valid explanatory pattern for geopolitical developments involving the corresponding nation-state? Do they teach you this sort of lobotomized, cultural- if not racial-deterministic bazaar talk in American schools? Cannot say I'd be surprised if they did, considering how this entire masonic mafia-construct going by the name "United States of America" is founded on the brutal subjugation and outright genocide of that land's entire native population, a sinister habit of boundless ultra-violence perpetuated to this day through the modernized mass enslavement of their own population, complete with a concentrational racialist component.

I mean, the ones dispensing public education in that forsaken place are intellectual heirs to mass-murderers who knowingly passed small-pox infected blankets to Native Americans under the pretense of generosity but with the aim of wiping out said people from the face of the Earth.

It's as ironic as self-defeating that the US regime apologist would cite these three examples whilst focusing on the purportedly indifferent reaction displayed by the so-called "international community", thus willingly ignoring the utter criminality of those very three acts, acts which in and by themselves fully suffice to expose the nature of the regime we're dealing with. So let me inject a healthy dose of Aristotelian logos into this: given the degree of bestial criminality of the US regime, which was instrumental in allowing Saddam to obtain chemical weapons in the first place, and which dared go as far as opposing its veto at the UN Security Council against a proposed resolution in condemnation of Iraq's use of WMD, or which dared honor the captain of the navy vessel responsible for the shooting down of an Iranian passenger aircraft, it follows logically that no other government (with the exception of a handful courageous enough to resist the illegitimate US empire), especially those under the thumb or influence of the Washington regime, would actually dare react in any significant manner to these criminal actions, terrorized as they are by this sheer volume of barbarity combined with the terror regime's raw destructive power.

This, not some imaginary "cultural traits inherent to Iranians", explains the dearth of adequate protest against Washington's crimes, not just against the Iranian people, but against anyone, actually.

 

[Muhammed45]

Toophan-2 helicopter. In this short video Clip a few ones of Toophan subsystems are shown. A completely Iranian made helicopter.

Most potent export would be Qaher 313...

No its not for sale.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Toophan-2 helicopter. In this short video Clip a few ones of Toophan subsystems are shown. A completely Iranian made helicopter.

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No its not for sale.