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What Iranians and Saudis refuse to realize!

Really? :unsure: references?

At least the most prominent Pakistani nationalists were Shia. The Pakistani nationalist movement won early support from the Shia ismaeli leader, the Aga Khan, and was generously bankrolled by Shia financiers such as M A. Ispahani and Raja Mahmoudabad of Lucknow, a Shia prince and the biggest landowner in north India.

Pakistani's founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was an Ismaeli by birth and a Twelver Shia by confession.Many of Pakistan's leaders were Shias, including one of the country's first governor-genrals, 3 of its first prime ministers, two of its military leaders (Generals Iskandars Mirza and Yahya Khan), and many other of its leading public officials, landowners, industrialists, artists and intellectuals.
 
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I met few Iranian girls and they said they hate Iran too. That whole country is hold together thanks to their authoritarian type of government. Nobody can open their mouth or speak their mind. The Iranians on this forum live abroad. If they say these things in Iran they will probably get tracked down and punished.
That's totally true. Even the Iranians I know hate Iran. I have no idea.
 
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@ al-hasani
90% or any percent.Always good gems like Gold and Diamond are rare.Most of the earch are dust..always good things are rare and it show their high value.We believe Prophet[PBUH] grandsons as imams and u believe some illiterate mofties as Imam!We beleive daughter of Prophet [PBUH] and u do not believe.
 
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Trolololol. Must be hard coming from a irrelevant country yourself, spreading lies on the internet.
I said what I have seen. Irrelevant country? This forum is an international forum fool
 
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At least the most prominent Pakistani nationalists were Shia. The Pakistani nationalist movement won early support from the Shia ismaeli leader, the Aga Khan, and was generously bankrolled by Shia financiers such as M A. Ispahani and Raja Mahmoudabad of Lucknow, a Shia prince and the biggest landowner in north India.
So that means ALL of us were Shia?

Pakistani's founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was an Ismaeli by birth and a Twelver Shia by confession.Many of Pakistan's leaders were Shias, including one of the country's first governor-genrals, 3 of its first prime ministers, two of its military leaders (Generals Iskandars Mirza and Yahya Khan), and many other of its leading public officials, landowners, industrialists, artists and intellectuals.
But he stood up for PAKISTAN not SHIA-ISTAN or SUNNISTAN...doesnt prove much
 
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It appears that, Iran is making peace with Arabs !

Iran, UAE Close to Deal on Hormuz Islands | Defense News | defensenews.com

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DUBAI — Iran and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are close to reaching a deal on returning three Iranian-occupied islands in the Arabian Gulf to the UAE.

Sources close to the negotiations have stated that a deal for the return of the strategic islands to the UAE was laid out during the recent visit of UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al Nahyan to Tehran, and a response was presented during last week’s return visit by his Iranian counterpart, Mohammed Javad Zarif.

Theodore Karasik, director of research and development at the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, confirmed that the two countries are on the verge of a breakthrough.

“Sheikh Abdullah’s visit to Tehran focused on the islands issue, and the Iranian side reacted positively,” he said. “Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif quickly came to Abu Dhabi to meet with President Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan and meet with other senior leaders to further cement a workable agreement for the transfer of the islands to the UAE while Iran retains the seabed rights.”

The strategically located islands of Abu Musa and the Greater and Lesser Tunbs are close to the Strait of Hormuz, the world’s most important oil chokepoint. The islands were occupied by Iran’s Shah Mohammad Reza Pehlavi less than 48 hours before the declaration in 1971 of the establishment of the United Arab Emirates.

The largest of the three Islands, Abu Musa, had been under the administration of the emirate of Sharjah, while the Greater and Lesser Tunbs belonged to the emirate of Ras al Khaimah, according to official UAE records.

Last year, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Command (IRGC) inaugurated a naval base on Abu Musa. Karasik said the naval base housed hundreds of short-range missiles “for Tehran’s security purposes over the Strait of Hormuz.”

During Zayed’s visit to Tehran, the first breakthrough was Iran’s acceptance to start discussions on Abu Musa. However, Zarif was quick to reiterate Iran’s sovereignty over them, and said in a press statement released on state news agency Fars that Tehran is ready to hold talks with the UAE only to remove possible misunderstandings over one of these islands.

“We are ready for talks with the UAE on the misunderstandings [on the implementation of the 1971 Memorandum of Understanding] on Abu Musa,” Zarif wrote on his Facebook page on Dec. 3.

Last week, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani extended an invitation to Khalifa and Vice President Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid to visit Iran.

“The situation is a win-win because the Islamic Republic wants to put aside this contentious issue while the UAE can claim its historical rights to the islands,” Karasik said.

In addition to the strategic benefits, a deal could mean large economic benefits for both countries, he added, “given Dubai’s economic linkages with Iran, and the fact that they both stand to benefit from the lifting of the sanctions.”

Before sanctions were imposed in 2007, trade between the UAE and Iran focused on consumer goods, foodstuffs and livestock. The estimated value of annual trade was between 36.7 billion dirhams and 44.1 billion dirhams (US $10 billion to $12 billion), said the Iranian Business Council.

After the 2007 sanctions, the value of direct exports from Dubai to Iran, according to the city’s Department of Economic Development, was 1.8 billion dirhams.

US Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged the financial strain that the sanctions have brought to gulf countries during his recent visit to Abu Dhabi, noting that after the introduction of tougher sanctions in 2012, trade has dropped to a record low of $4 billion.

“I know that many nations, especially the United Arab Emirates, have suffered from the Iranian sanctions,” Kerry said. “Just today, I have learned that trade with Iran has dropped from $23 billion to just $4 billion. That’s a huge sacrifice.

“We have real partners in the UAE, and this affects them,” he said. “This is something that Congress and others need to take note of as we think about where we are going in the future.”

Abdel Khaleq Abdullah, a United Arab Emirates University political science professor, said if a deal on the islands emerges, it will be a watershed in gulf-Iranian relations.

“This has been a 40-plus years dispute between Iran and the UAE, and any solution to this dispute is a good solution as long as both parties agree to it,” he said. “Putting an end to this dispute is not only a huge step for the UAE and Iran, but it also proves a major improvement in relations between Iran and the [Gulf Cooperation Council] leading to the lessening of tensions in the gulf. If it’s true, it is a cause for celebration.”

Abdullah said talks have been on and off during the past 40 years.

Taufiq Rahim, a strategy adviser and political analyst based here, agreed that something is in the works.

“Definitely, there are negotiations ongoing, and the UAE is the first country Iran wants to make overtures to,” he said. “The best way to do that is reaching an agreement on the islands.”

“If Khalifa was to visit [Tehran] then it would have to be accompanied by a significant announcement.”
 
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And didnt the prophet say love thy brother? Didnt he talk about unity? Didnt he say DONT DIVIDE! If you really followed you wouldnt have let the division happen! EVERYONE divides based on culture and tradition but it IS supposed to be Islam on which the UNITE!

You know the cause YET you let it happen?
Ok then why the fighting? When Prophet SAW was NOT EVEN ALLOWED to forcefully convert his uncle who kept putting it away then who are you to convert or force others? Just out of curiosity ...because Muslims should follow Prophet SAW not some Mullah or bloodthirsty fool, right?


And before I came you were discussing about fairies right? :rolleyes1:

Sunni Islam is the most pure form of Islam. it is the orthodox form of Islam. The oldest one. Ask any neutral non-Muslim theologian.

The later sects that came, all came long before I was born. It is time for those Muslims to return to Orthodox Islam rather than being some Ahmadi's etc.

I am not forcing anybody to convert to Islam. I am just telling them not to follow invented sects. I am not going to elaborate more since I will hurt the feelings of some here which is not the purpose here.

Sunni Islam = orthodox Islam = based on the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad and the Noble Qur'an. Nothing more. No clergy worship, no inventions no nothing. The only question is the ahadith and wether they are weak or not. No Grand Ayatollah's, no preference for certain people of a certain ancestry etc.
 
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@ al-hasani
90% or any percent.Always good gems like Gold and Diamond are rare.Most of the earch are dust..always good things are rare and it show their high value.We believe Prophet[PBUH] grandsons as imams and u believe some illiterate mofties as Imam!We beleive daughter of Prophet [PBUH] and u do not believe.
Who? :woot:
 
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