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لا اله الا الله is 12 letters.(There is no God except Allah)

محمد رسول الله Prophet Muhammad name is 12 letters

النبی المصطفی Other name of Prohet is 12 letters.

الصادق الأمین A name of Imams are 12 letters.

أئمة أهل البیت The phrase: Imams of Ahl Albait is 12 letters

أمیر المؤمنین

فاطمة الزهراء

الحسن والحسین

علی بن ابی طالب

الحسن المجتبی

الحسین الشهید

الإمام السجاد

الإمام الباقر

الإمام الصادق

الإمام الکاظم

الإمام الرضا

الإمام الجواد

الإمام الهادی

الحسن العسکری

القائم المهدی

They are names of 12 Imams in Shia.every of them are 12 letters!




خاتم الوصیین The last prophet in arabic is 12 letters.

هؤلاء الاطهار The phrase : they are righteous in arabic is 12 letters.

سادة أهل الجنه The phrase: Lords in heaven in arabic is 12 letters.

محبهم مؤمن تقی

عدوهم کافر شقی
The phrase : Enemies of them are poor(in the hell) in arabic is 12 letters
 
لا اله الا الله is 12 letters.(There is no God except Allah)

محمد رسول الله Prophet Muhammad name is 12 letters

النبی المصطفی Other name of Prohet is 12 letters.

الصادق الأمین A name of Imams are 12 letters.

أئمة أهل البیت The phrase: Imams of Ahl Albait is 12 letters

أمیر المؤمنین

فاطمة الزهراء

الحسن والحسین

علی بن ابی طالب

الحسن المجتبی

الحسین الشهید

الإمام السجاد

الإمام الباقر

الإمام الصادق

الإمام الکاظم

الإمام الرضا

الإمام الجواد

الإمام الهادی

الحسن العسکری

القائم المهدی

They are names of 12 Imams in Shia.every of them are 12 letters!




خاتم الوصیین The last prophet in arabic is 12 letters.

هؤلاء الاطهار The phrase : they are righteous in arabic is 12 letters.

سادة أهل الجنه The phrase: Lords in heaven in arabic is 12 letters.

محبهم مؤمن تقی

عدوهم کافر شقی
The phrase : Enemies of them are poor(in the hell) in arabic is 12 letters




Sure and go ahead and paste pictures of Water Melon with Allah in it.

That will surely boost your case.
 
Probably Iran is going to start a war with their Pan-Iranism...

Arabs should stand tall and don't blink. If you show little weakness. Iranians think they are the boss.

Israel, Saudi Arabia Threaten War as West Prepares for Iran Nuclear Deal

Not so subtle leaks have emanated from Israel and Saudi Arabia about their immense displeasure with the nuclear deal the P5+1 nations are preparing to finalize with Iran. Those leaks have gone far beyond mere expressions of alarm. In fact, they include not so subtle “secret” meetings between their intelligence chiefs, and stories from cozy journalists who warn that both countries are contemplating an attack on Iran if the nuclear deal is as favorable to Iran as they fear it will be:

“Once the Geneva agreement is signed, the military option will be back on the table. The Saudis are furious and are willing to give Israel all the help it needs,” the Times quoted the source as saying.

An Eilat newspaper reported that Israel’s Mossad chief, Tamir Pardo met “secretly” in an Aqaba hotel with Saudi Arabia’s intelligence chief, Prince Bandar. For more on the strange relationship these two are cultivating and the clear limitations Prince Bandar is facing both in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the region, read this interesting profile of the Saudis’ top spook.

Pardo and Sultan weren’t in Aqaba to soak up that warm winter sunshine. This is the second such meeting that I’ve reported between them over the past few weeks. The source of the story is supposedly the “Jordanian government.” You have to ask yourself if two well-known intelligence chiefs of supposedly hostile nations want to meet secretly, why choose a Jordanian hotel? No, I’d say they wanted their meeting to be known. Perhaps not known throughout the world, but certainly known to the intelligence agencies in certain capitals like Tehran and Washington. The fact that Israel and Saudi Arabia may be plotting God knows what behind the back of the P5+1 states is supposed to give Obama, Rouhani and the other pause before they sign that so-called sweetheart deal. But will it?

That brings us to the next story, published in the Sunday Times and covered by all the Israeli press. This report claims that Saudi Arabia and Israel are actually plotting to go to war against Iran if a deal is struck. Before we get hot and bothered about this, let’s consider the source: the story was written by Uzi Mahnaimi. He appears to be an outlet favored by some elements of Israeli intelligence (he himself is a former military intelligence officer who retired in 1984). But worse than that, many of his stories seem either made up out of whole cloth or at least extremely dubious. He and Marie Colvin co-authored a story for the Sunday Times in 1998, which appeared based in a science fiction scenario penned by an Israeli scientist, claiming that Israel had created an “ethno-bomb” that would target specific Arab genetic weaknesses. Mahnaimi appeared not to know the plot he was reporting was fictional and the report, a hoax. Both he and Colvin have never spoken about the report or explained it. Thus in fact, if Mahnaimi predicted something would happen, I’d feel comfortable betting it wouldn’t.

So the Sunday Times reporter tells us breathlessly that Saudi Arabia is “all in” for such an attack. The Arab state has offered rights to its own airspace for overflight. It’s supposedly offered to base Israeli drones and helicopters in the country to use as support vehicles.

But let’s try to look at this realistically: would Israel attack Iran after six major nations just signed a nuclear deal with Iran? Yes, I can understand voicing your extreme displeasure in every way possible. But send in the F-16s and bunker busters? Truly, it IS possible that Bibi might do this. He is crazy and reckless enough to try it. But will he? Is he willing to be Samson toppling the pillars of the Philistine temple in order to kill his tormentors? My bet is that he isn’t. He would risk leaving Israel as the odd man out not just opposing an agreement negotiated under international auspices, but wrecking such a deal with a military attack on Iran.

Is Bibi that reckless? Nahum Barnea, Israel’s best-known columnist, writes that the prime minister enters every crisis like a champion weightlifter and exits like a crumbled candy bar. So no, my bet is that Israel is all bluff and holding very few good cards. Further, the fact that they chose Mahnaimi to publish this report, with his record, casts even greater doubt.

Larry Cohler Esses, writing for the Forward, argues correctly that Israel is increasingly left with little or no leverage to influence events related to Iran:

Unfortunately for Israel, its position on this point [Iran's right to enrich uranium] remains frozen in time: zero-enrichment, and only zero-enrichment, is acceptable when it comes to Iran.

As one Israeli foreign ministry official put it to me, “Enrichment is unacceptable, period. Because we don’t believe it’s for peaceful purposes. Why would Iran need nuclear energy when they have the second largest oil reserves in the world?”

…This stance risks driving Israel further into international isolation. But it’s even worse; unlike the Palestinian issue, this issue is not one on which the United States or other Western countries accept that Israel is the key negotiating partner. Unless Israel’s supporters in Congress succeed in upending the whole premise the administration accepts as the basis for these talks — as Israel hopes they will — Netanyahu will simply get left in the dust as the rest of the world moves forward — and quite quickly at that.

Most importantly, Israel’s position will leave it with no way to influence the issues that actually are being discussed by those who are at the table — issues in which it has a crucial interest.

Pres. Obama understands that in order to get this deal he will have to, if not abandon Israel, then show a clear demarcation between the Israeli government’s perceived interests and our own.

Coher-Esses’ piece is prescient I think in warning that if there is a nuclear deal, then pressure against Israel to come to terms with the Palestinians will mount exponentially. Netanyahu has always argued that Iran is the most important (“existential”) issue for Israel. That any other issue, like the Palestinians, should take a back seat till Iran is resolved. Once that happens there will be no further excuses for inaction (though Bibi will try to find many or any). This could be another reason Bibi hates the idea of a deal with Iran so much.

Returning to Mahnaimi’s story, what astonishes me is that virtually every major Israeli paper republished this nonsense as if it was God’s honest truth. That bespeaks either their desperation to cover every bit of this story; or their gullibility (or both).

 
Iranian and Saudi brothers,


I doubt that you two realize the enormous impact your two countries have on the rest of the Muslims in the world.

Do you?

No it is not about Al-hassani or Hasbra.

you are just ordinary joes from your two countries.

I am taking about the place a typical Muslim automatically gives your counries based on his fiqh or maslik.



You the guys from Saudi, Do you realize what it really means to have Harmain Sharifain in your country?

You the guys from Iran, Do you realize what it really means to have a living embodiment of God aka Grand Ayatullah in your country?


It is like you both countries possess super duper powers to hold the Muslims of the world by their hearts and their jugulars.


The most precious thing any society can just dream of getting

To have billions of hearts in your hands.


Then please learn to handle these hearts carefully and gingerly.

Because this is a gift all dream but few ever get.


Figure out a way to co-exit,

For your country's sakes and for the sake of billions of Muslims.


Learn from history

and try not to repeat the same old mistakes.


Don't you know what the fork happened when two great and revered personalities like Umer and Ali became $tupid and fought each other?

or Usman and Ali $tupid tussle

or Aysha and Ali childish and $tupidest war

or the

pathetic and bloody political fight between Yazeed and Hussain?



100s if not 1000s were killed and maimed for what?

to prove one's $htick was bigger than the others.


OK so back then, information aka correct information was hard to come by

There were no internet and mobile phones.

Perhaps

Omer could have blogged about Ali's greatness

Perhaps Ali could have facebook friended Omer

And all that $hit would have gone away


But it did not

And it utterly and purely messed up the societies back then


But now we have a chance to cleanse the animosity

and move on

and develop your two societies


but


the societies of those countries who hold either one or both of you in reverence.


So think about the enormous responsibiltiy on your shoulders

and become humble

and responsible

So use these gifts from heaven for the good of humanity, your neighbors,

Spread peace, and prosperity

Make sure your spirit and your money doesn't get used by the liikes of Qaida or Hiabullah

Do your best to stop the bloodshed everywhere you have tiny bit of influence.

Use your great countries for teaching people how to live peacefully with your neighbors

Respect and care for your neighbor regardless of his faith or his race or his geo-location.


you guys can do it if you put your heart to it.

For the sake of humanity please.


Thank you.


Let's wish peace on Earth

in these months of celebration and mourning

the months that must teach us good lessons

and keep us from going astray.
The war between imam Hussein and yazeed was not for politics some members here they said they fought for power and that's not true imam Hussein revolution was for justice some wahhabi said imam Hussein was wrong because he revolted against the alcoholic yazeed and yazeed is the Muslims khalifa
 
Shia Dynasties of Iran date 150 years before that and started at 791AD by Deylamian , the Buyid were the ones who conquered Abbasid and made them their Vassals
The approximate century of Būyid rule, coupled with the rise of other Iranian dynasties in the region, represents a period in Iranian history sometimes called the 'Iranian Intermezzo' since it was an interlude between the rule of the 'Abbāsid Arabs and the Seljuq Turks. Indeed, as Dailamite Iranians the Būyids consciously revived symbols and practices of Persia's Sassānid dynasty.In fact, beginning with 'Adud al-Dawla they used the ancient Sassānid title Shāhanshāh (Persian: شاهنشاه‎), literally "king of kings"

You made Khalifs into kings?

The war between imam Hussein and yazeed was not for politics some members here they said they fought for power and that's not true imam Hussein revolution was for justice some wahhabi said imam Hussein was wrong because he revolted against the alcoholic yazeed and yazeed is the Muslims khalifa
Why are we fighting over someone who is already in his grave? Do you not believe ALLAH will do the justice?
 
facts for Zaeef ul itqad

sorry to say

Real itiqad or believe is believing Qadir day and what Prophet [PBUH] said about his vicegerant after his demise and what he said about his family.
We Iranian and some iraq states few years after abbasy dynasty had a shia goverment and believed bani umayyah and bani abbasy dynasy were enemies of ahl albait they martyred them and wanted government.

First Iranian Iraq goverment after abbasy dynasy:
Buyid dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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atleast d op had good intention to start with.....but this it became like india pakistan may be worse

Always some hot headed idiots ruin every thread, even if those threads are made for making people friends and eliminate their hostilities.

Every time this issue turns into a religion and history debate.....

Yeah, they try to find something in history or religious stuff or even genetic stuff to rationalize their own stupid bashing against each other.
 
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