What If 24 Su-35 bought by China are for PAF ? Just my thoughts

[Sinnerman108]

I understand this is a defense forum but that does not mean we need to view every development under shadows of a war. CPEC obviously may mean a lot to both the countries involved but that does not mean India will attack Gwadar port even if Pakistan is successful in another jihadi attack on India (which will be THE ONLY reason for war, atleast for India).

On the contrary, to the dislike of many Pakistanis, CPEC will help India more than it will them, atleast as far as trade between India and China is concerned. Lets face it, trade is increasing and it will continue to rise in a pretty big way between China and India. China can easily arm-twist Pak by sending its goods through CPEC to India and of course China will allow Indian goods back to China through the same route. That is the beauty of the CPEC to India. All though it is in PAK, it's China that can call the shots.

If the scenario mentioned by the OP is plausible the scenario I mention is reality. Trade is what will direct relations between India and China. Alas, China will use Pak directly and India will to but indirectly.

Hence the awesome flankers will remain with China since they actually need it to guard the sky above all the artificial islands they are building. The South China sea and dangers around it are far higher than CPEC.

We are not against China sending goods via the road to India;

We will mostly welcome it.

Because this will mean we get paid for the freight transporter through the road.

So, the Price X that india will be paying will include a percentage Y that india will be contributing to Pakistan which we will use to make more weapons for India.

 

[Beast]

Right. Why not give your super duper J11Ds considering that it's air-frame is way better designed (allegedly) and china's avionics are anyway going to be needed ?

As for the engine department, Chinese posters had us believe that WS-1X are way better than the saturn 117S ?

I think you did not read my first post. Chinese has agreed with Russian not to export any of China made lineage of Su-27 series aircraft. That will put J-11B, J-11BS, J-15, J-16, J-11D under non export list. Chinese aim is to help PAF in a better position to defend its skies and that included Gwadar port by importing Su-35 on their behalf. If you can come up with a more reasonable explantion. I am always open to suggestion. But yours suggestion is not possible. Next, please

 

[Providence]

Chinese posters think the rest of the world doesn't have access to internet and doesn't have an iota of understanding of international defence transactions.

I have news for them. Not everyone lives out of a memo !!

 

[Beast]

Chinese posters think the rest of the world doesn't have access to internet and doesn't have an iota of understanding of international defence transactions.

I have news for them. Not everyone lives out of a memo !!

No internet access is false. But a lot dont have an idea of international defence transaction is true

 

[Providence]

I think you did not read my first post. Chinese has agreed with Russian not to export any of China made lineage of Su-27 series aircraft. That will put J-11B, J-11BS, J-15, J-16, J-11D under non export list. Chinese aim is to help PAF in a better position to defend its skies and that included Gwadar port by importing Su-35 on their behalf. If you can come up with a more reasonable explantion. I am always open to suggestion. But yours suggestion is not possible. Next, please

Well this is a huge climb down from the claims made earlier by chinese posters that su-27 and J-1X series are completely different.




I don't care what pakistan purchase with their hard earned $$ but your lies are falling on it's head son

 

[MilSpec]

"WE" are not. WE have thousands of -16's, -15's, -18's, -22', -35's, B1's, B2's and the list goes on and on. I was referring to Pakistan. Though I'd clarify

he meant you are a false flag ashamed to acknowledge to which country your allegiance is.... I am clarifying given your inability to comprehend simple English due to substandard education.

 

[Ultima Thule]

LMAO.Pakistanis are jumping at brain farts now.

If you have a butthurt use burnol in your butts it is a pain killer, if you don't have common sence post just leave now

 

[Pindi Boy]

LMAO.Pakistanis are jumping at brain farts now.

 

[Sinnerman108]

@Beast Very interesting observation and analyst, albeit, Pakistan interested in the SU-35 has been making headlines lately, however it's also a fact that China has also been negotiating for these for the last five years where as Gawadar and other deals were only signed this year. !!!

Wrong,

Gawadar since Mushy's time.

 

[Beast]

Wrong,

Gawadar since Mushy's time.

That time is without the USD46 billion investment and without China having of 40 years lease. Now China is fully committed to it.

 

[Mrc]

That time is without the USD46 billion investment and without China having of 40 years lease. Now China is fully committed to it.

Mushy had cold feet giving gawadar to china
Initially he gave contract to singapore port authority on anerican pressure...
Contract was later cancelled..
Current government can take credit for gawadar and cpec as whole

 

[Basel]

And the Chinese will never be able to sell them to Pakistan as Russia will not allow it since the engines are Russian.

End of story!

Basically its possible, but important thing is that "does Pakistan needs them so despretly" if yes then arrangment is possible between Russia-China-Pakistan.

 

[Syed_Adeel]

Who exactly is going to attack Gwadar?
Also you won't be selling to Pakistanis.You will be leasing it to them

In any case, PAF will have the tech to kick Your as$$ so dont be so happy keep crying

And the Chinese will never be able to sell them to Pakistan as Russia will not allow it since the engines are Russian.

End of story!

Seems same story like JFT yeah ? dear the dynamics are getting change, these smaller things donot matter when it comes to grand alliances. Russia Doesnt consider India Faithful as India is just lying in US group rather Pakistan China and Russia and Iran seems more powerful and considerable alliance so keep assuming. you will see with your own eyes when times comes.

 

[Path-Finder]

LMAO.Pakistanis are jumping at brain farts now.

only god known the $hit you have to smell in injun country

 

[Humble Analyst]

i thought we put the su-35 to bed already!
not going tot happen, china paid 2 billion for 24 jets thats too expensive for pakistan, just under a third of its defence budget. still it would make sense to get an su-35 or a higher caliber jet.

Contradiction yet facts, still 50% cheaper than Typhoon.