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Usage of "Indian Subcontinent" should be banned, Say "Asian Subcontinent"

Asia is a continent, so Asian subcontinent doesn't make sense.
May be if India agrees to change names exlusively to Bharath, may be then you guys will be happy and not complain about being in Indian subcontinent.

Barring that the only alternative is for Pakistan to move elsewhere which is a bit tough to do.
 
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True and what Pakistanis need to work on is to remove their association with India and either create a strong Pakistani or middle eastern identity, not to modify anything that has India in it, that solves nothing.

Or how about re-claiming the name India that you people stole from us:

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Or how about re-claiming the name India that you people stole from us:

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Again just because indus river is in current Pakistan doesnt change a thing.
Should have asked Christopher Columbus and Vasco da Gama if they were planning on landing on Indus river lol.
Pakistanis trying to encroach on rich Indian history using indus river BS is the real identity theft, just stay away and create your own identity man.
 
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Again just because indus river is in current Pakistan doesnt change a thing.
Should have asked Christopher Columbus and Vasco da Gama if they were planning on landing on Indus river lol.
Pakistanis trying to encroach on rich Indian history using indus river BS is the real identity theft, just stay away and create your own identity man.

Other way around mate. So some European misplaced a terminology and all of a sudden you get an artificial identity from it.
 
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Pakistanis think too much about all this. No one in India gives a shit about what the country should be called. India and Bharat are used interchangeably and officially in government communications. There are many government companies with their names starting with Hindustan, including the much maligned HAL.

India may be an artificial or foreign name, but it binds the country for administrative and common identity reasons, and that is important and enough. We don't obsess over it, but if you try to take it away, there will obviously be a backlash.
 
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Wow picking selective dates to prove point, story would have looked very different if you picked mauryan empire,
Anyways, the real reason it is called a sub continent because greater Indian was a different land mass and was not part of Asia

This is how Indian Subcontinent moved over larger time period

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And Indian plate is different from Asian Plate
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Now you understand the rationale behind Indian Ocean and Indian Subcontinent
 
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Pakistanis think too much about all this. No one in India gives a shit about what the country should be called. India and Bharat are used interchangeably and officially in government communications. There are many government companies with their names starting with Hindustan, including the much maligned HAL.

India may be an artificial or foreign name, but it binds the country for administrative and common identity reasons, and that is important and enough. We don't obsess over it, but if you try to take it away, there will obviously be a backlash.
You are right, but Hindustan is not a foreign given name. Hindustani is my ancestral identity. It's not as if we can't give ourselves a name, and only Persians could! Persians conceivably could have mispronounced Sind as Hind, however we are certainly not confused between the two identities. That is why my ancestral identity isn't Sindhi, Sindudeshi, or Bharati. They are different identities.
 
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Again just because indus river is in current Pakistan doesnt change a thing.
Should have asked Christopher Columbus and Vasco da Gama if they were planning on landing on Indus river lol.
Pakistanis trying to encroach on rich Indian history using indus river BS is the real identity theft, just stay away and create your own identity man.
PS didn't Columbus call the people of the Americas "Indians" as well? So they are indians now as they are commonly called.
 
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PS didn't Columbus call the people of the Americas "Indians" as well? So pthey are indians now as they are commonly called.
Wikipedia link below is enough to clarify, however, it can make it wrongly seem that the Persians discovered and named India in 500 BCE. It is well known that ancient Indian history is a thousand years older. Hindustani Vedic caste order was likely very established by 1200 BCE [end of IVC], and the ruling Kshatriya Deva/Sharif caste whose origin was from Ur [not well known] was the top Vedic caste on the Indus.

Now about the name India or Hindustan.
"Hindush (Old Persian cuneiform*: 𐏃𐎡𐎯𐎢𐏁, Hidūš, also transliterated as Hindūš since the nasal "n" before consonants was omitted in the Old Persian script, and simplified as Hindūš or sometimes Hindush was a province of the Achaemenid Empire in lower Indus Valley (modern Sindh) established after the Achaemenid conquest circa 500 BC."

[* - Cuneiform script originated in Ur/Sumeria. This is proof of very ancient Sumerian influence in Old Persia]

The above article says Hindus was the province of Sindh, although others say it was today's Punjab. I think it included at least Punjab, plus Sindh and maybe more.
"... some authors consider that Hindush may have been located in the Punjab area.[11]"

Note that the Hindush or the Hindus province was based on the name of Indus river, and obviously not possibly on today's Hindu people (which is a much later cultural label or identity).

The above is reaffirmed here.

"The Greek geographer Herodotus (5th century BC) describes India, calling it ἡ Ἰνδική χώρη (Roman transliteration: hē Hindikē chōrē, meaning "the Indus land"), after Hinduš, the Old Persian name of the Indus river"

We know the Indus Land directly translates to the word Hindusthan. Logically, the inhabitants of the Land of Hindus [Hindustan] are Hindustani, which is my ancestral identity. Hindustan is also mentioned in a book of Veda.
 
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We are Pakistanis and not Indians.

I live in the west too and anyone with half a brain here knows the difference between Pakistan and India

Well you were all called "INDIANS" back in the day.... Now Indians and Pakistanis and Bengali or what have you. Just for uniformity's sake, it can be called the Subcontinent. At the end of the day you are where you are from.
 
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The correct term is South Asia / South Asian. The "sub-continent" is a relic of the bygone days of the RAJ.

It should be confined to history- it's 2022.
 
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PS didn't Columbus call the people of the Americas "Indians" as well? So they are indians now as they are commonly called.
He thought he was in mainland India, that's why native Americans are called Indians. He was never thinking of indus river lol, and why would he when the power and prestige of India has always been with the mainland after Indus valley civilization(which we were very much a part of) collapsed. Enough of your identity theft. Respect the fact that you chose a different identity for yourselves and build on that. We are usually accommodating of our neighbors who want to adopt our identity, but stealing or modifying it can't be tolerated.
 
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Asia is a continent, so Asian subcontinent doesn't make sense.
May be if India agrees to change names exlusively to Bharath, may be then you guys will be happy and not complain about being in Indian subcontinent.

Barring that the only alternative is for Pakistan to move elsewhere which is a bit tough to do.

No such thing as indian subcontinent
 
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