Nobody claim zero accident but if it start to happen often. It's is nothing to do with accident but pure human error or mishandling in procedure. In this case, the commander is slacking. This incident can be avoided but not.
US submarine hit underwater seamount in South China Sea
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You are triggered bud LOL This incident is humiliating to say the least.
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Only some PDF Chinese hyper nationalists.
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LOL seems you are also triggered. Don't blame China for something it didn't do.
LOL! Nature doesn't care much whether its wood or metal.
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From the USN press release,
I read it as meaning the captain was taking excessive risk in operating his boat.
This is a sub with nuclear reactor with risk of radiation contamination.
I don't think people living at coastal states around South China Sea would be happy if USN cannot make sure of safe operation around where they live.
If the USN cannot control their gung-ho servicemen, then they should stay away.
Not going to happen. Thats like saying Japan should stay away when their submarine got it by a tanker. Or Norway's warship got hit by a tanker, all Norwegian warships should stay in their port and never leave.
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Then make sure that their servicemen is acting responsibly when in Asia.
At least this time the responsible people were punished. When Asian read news like the following, what do you suppose they are going to feel,
Watchdog finds no misconduct in mistaken Afghan airstrike
An independent Pentagon review has concluded that the U.S. drone strike that killed innocent Kabul civilians and children in the final days of the Afghanistan war was not caused by misconduct or negligence, and it doesn’t recommend any disciplinary action.
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why not? wasn't it an underwater hill? yes. was it uncharted? yes. what it in south China sea? yes. conclusion: CHINA HAS BEEN SECRETLY MOVING MOUNTAINS & HILLS AROUND UNDER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA!
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This is US navy nuclear submarine to seamount. Advise to change your course by 15 degrees to avoid collision.
Seamount to US navy. Please adjust your course by 15 degrees to avoid collision.
US Navy to Seamount. We are the most powerful navy in the world. We order you to immediately change course by 15 degrees to avoid collision or we will take action to ensure the safety of our Nuclear submarine.
Long silence.
Seamount to US navy. We do not care how powerful you are. We are a hard piece of rock and we are going no where so to ensure safety of you submarine please change your course by 15 degrees.
Seamount to US navy. Please adjust your course by 15 degrees to avoid collision.
US Navy to Seamount. We are the most powerful navy in the world. We order you to immediately change course by 15 degrees to avoid collision or we will take action to ensure the safety of our Nuclear submarine.
Long silence.
Seamount to US navy. We do not care how powerful you are. We are a hard piece of rock and we are going no where so to ensure safety of you submarine please change your course by 15 degrees.
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This is US navy nuclear submarine to seamount. Advise to change your course by 15 degrees to avoid collision.
Seamount to US navy. Please adjust your course by 15 degrees to avoid collision.
US Navy to Seamount. We are the most powerful navy in the world. We order you to immediately change course by 15 degrees to avoid collision or we will take action to ensure the safety of our Nuclear submarine.
Long silence.
Seamount to US navy. We do not care how powerful you are. We are a hard piece of rock and we are going no where so to ensure safety of you submarine please change your course by 15 degrees.
Seamount is very unprofessional.
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Metallurgist admits faking steel test results for US Navy subs for decades
Associated Press
Published: 5:32am, 10 Nov, 2021
A US attack submarine undergoes sea trials in the Atlantic Ocean in November 2009. The US government did not disclose which submarines were affected by the fake steel test results. Photo: US Navy via AFP
A metallurgist in Washington state pleaded guilty to fraud Monday after she spent decades faking the results of strength tests on steel that was being used to make US Navy submarines.
Elaine Marie Thomas, 67, of Auburn, Washington, was the director of metallurgy at a foundry in Tacoma that supplied steel castings used by Navy contractors Electric Boat and Newport News Shipbuilding to make submarine hulls.
From 1985 through 2017, Thomas falsified the results of strength and toughness tests for at least 240 productions of steel – about half the steel the foundry produced for the Navy, according to her plea agreement, filed Monday in US District Court in Tacoma.
The tests were intended to show that the steel would not fail in a collision or in certain “wartime scenarios,” the Justice Department said.
US submarine strikes unknown underwater object in disputed South China Sea
There was no allegation that any submarine hulls failed, but authorities said the Navy had incurred increased costs and maintenance to ensure they remain seaworthy. The government did not disclose which subs were affected.
Thomas faces up to 10 years in prison and a US$1 million fine when she is sentenced in February. However, the Justice Department said it would recommend a prison term at the low end of whatever the court determines is the standard sentencing range in her case.
In a statement filed in US District Court on her behalf Monday, her lawyer, John Carpenter, said Thomas “took short cuts”. “Ms Thomas never intended to compromise the integrity of any material and is gratified that the government’s testing does not suggest that the structural integrity of any submarine was in fact compromised,” Carpenter wrote.
“This offence is unique in that it was neither motivated by greed nor any desire for personal enrichment. She regrets that she failed to follow her moral compass – admitting to false statements is hardly how she envisioned living out her retirement years.”
Thomas’ conduct came to light in 2017, when a metallurgist being groomed to replace her noticed suspicious test results and alerted their company, Kansas City-based Bradken, which acquired the foundry in 2008.
Bradken fired Thomas and initially disclosed its findings to the Navy, but then wrongfully suggested that the discrepancies were not the result of fraud. That hindered the Navy’s investigation into the scope of the problem as well as its efforts to remediate the risks to its sailors, prosecutors said.
In June 2020, the company agreed to pay US$10.9 million in a deferred-prosecution agreement.
When confronted with the doctored results, Thomas told investigators, “Yeah, that looks bad,” the Justice Department said. She suggested that in some cases she changed the tests to passing grades because she thought it was “stupid” that the Navy required the tests to be conducted at minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 73.3 degrees Celsius).
- The tests were meant to show that the metal used for the vessels’ hulls would not fail in a collision or certain ‘wartime scenarios’
- Elaine Marie Thomas, 67, faces up to 10 years in prison and a US$1 million fine
Associated Press
Published: 5:32am, 10 Nov, 2021
A US attack submarine undergoes sea trials in the Atlantic Ocean in November 2009. The US government did not disclose which submarines were affected by the fake steel test results. Photo: US Navy via AFP
A metallurgist in Washington state pleaded guilty to fraud Monday after she spent decades faking the results of strength tests on steel that was being used to make US Navy submarines.
Elaine Marie Thomas, 67, of Auburn, Washington, was the director of metallurgy at a foundry in Tacoma that supplied steel castings used by Navy contractors Electric Boat and Newport News Shipbuilding to make submarine hulls.
From 1985 through 2017, Thomas falsified the results of strength and toughness tests for at least 240 productions of steel – about half the steel the foundry produced for the Navy, according to her plea agreement, filed Monday in US District Court in Tacoma.
The tests were intended to show that the steel would not fail in a collision or in certain “wartime scenarios,” the Justice Department said.
There was no allegation that any submarine hulls failed, but authorities said the Navy had incurred increased costs and maintenance to ensure they remain seaworthy. The government did not disclose which subs were affected.
Thomas faces up to 10 years in prison and a US$1 million fine when she is sentenced in February. However, the Justice Department said it would recommend a prison term at the low end of whatever the court determines is the standard sentencing range in her case.
In a statement filed in US District Court on her behalf Monday, her lawyer, John Carpenter, said Thomas “took short cuts”. “Ms Thomas never intended to compromise the integrity of any material and is gratified that the government’s testing does not suggest that the structural integrity of any submarine was in fact compromised,” Carpenter wrote.
“This offence is unique in that it was neither motivated by greed nor any desire for personal enrichment. She regrets that she failed to follow her moral compass – admitting to false statements is hardly how she envisioned living out her retirement years.”
Thomas’ conduct came to light in 2017, when a metallurgist being groomed to replace her noticed suspicious test results and alerted their company, Kansas City-based Bradken, which acquired the foundry in 2008.
Bradken fired Thomas and initially disclosed its findings to the Navy, but then wrongfully suggested that the discrepancies were not the result of fraud. That hindered the Navy’s investigation into the scope of the problem as well as its efforts to remediate the risks to its sailors, prosecutors said.
In June 2020, the company agreed to pay US$10.9 million in a deferred-prosecution agreement.
When confronted with the doctored results, Thomas told investigators, “Yeah, that looks bad,” the Justice Department said. She suggested that in some cases she changed the tests to passing grades because she thought it was “stupid” that the Navy required the tests to be conducted at minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 73.3 degrees Celsius).
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Nature won't either discriminate which submarine is from China and which one from US. LOL.
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