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US submarine hit underwater seamount in South China Sea

If its instant sure. Past history of subs sinking without letting the world know has been a proven fact.

Again, those were the submarine in the very deep position.

In this case, that US sub can transmit signal suggesting China sub should have been able to do the same, if it were really a collision with China's sub as per your theory.

Even your government claim suggest that the sub still can transmit signal deep on the bottom of the sea hitting unrecognized sea mountain.
 
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Again, those were the submarine in the very deep position.

In this case, that US sub can transmit signal suggesting China sub should have been able to do the same, if it were really a collision with China's sub as per your theory.

Even your government claim suggest that the sub still can transmit signal deep on the bottom of the sea hitting unrecognized sea mountain.

Deep or shallow, if its instant, takes days to weeks or even months to find it.
 
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You guys are discounting US Navy eqpmt. malfunction and fuckups sitting at the controls. You have dumb people in every country. No one is perfect.
But US got more ill trained and ill discipline sailors :enjoy: Even US president fired many USN commander due to slack and incompetent training... :enjoy:
 
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US Navy sacks three officers after submarine crash in South China Sea

The submarine, USS Connecticut, had crashed into an underwater mountain in the South China on October 2.

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The United States Navy's submarine USS Connecticut. | AFP

The United States Navy on Thursday sacked three officers who were on a nuclear-powered submarine that crashed into an underwater mountain on October 2.

The officers who have been removed from their posts are Commander Cameron Aljilani, Lieutenant Commander Patrick Cashin and Master Chief Sonar Technician Cory Rodgers. Vice Admiral Karl Thomas, commander of the US 7th Fleet, took the decision to terminate the three officers, citing “loss of confidence”.

The USS Connecticut, the submarine that crashed into an underwater mountain in the South China, was subsequently forced to sail on the surface for a week to reach the Guam island in the Western Pacific Ocean, AFP reported.

Eleven sailors were injured in the crash. Although the collision damaged the vessel’s forward ballast tanks, its nuclear plant was not damaged, according to the agency.

“Thomas determined sound judgement, prudent decision-making and adherence to required procedures in navigation planning, watch team execution and risk management could have prevented the incident,” the United States Navy said in a press release.

The Navy added that the submarine is undergoing damage assessment at Guam, and will subsequently be taken to Bremerton city in Washington for repairs.

The United States Navy has not yet explained how the submarine hit the underwater mountain, according to AP.

While the crash took place on October 2, the Navy did not report the incident for five days, until it had exited the South China Sea.

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US Navy sacks three officers after submarine crash in South China Sea

The submarine, USS Connecticut, had crashed into an underwater mountain in the South China on October 2.

Scroll Staff
4 hours agoUpdated 4 hours ago
165987-xvwgjtrpbr-1636094589.jpg

The United States Navy's submarine USS Connecticut. | AFP

The United States Navy on Thursday sacked three officers who were on a nuclear-powered submarine that crashed into an underwater mountain on October 2.

The officers who have been removed from their posts are Commander Cameron Aljilani, Lieutenant Commander Patrick Cashin and Master Chief Sonar Technician Cory Rodgers. Vice Admiral Karl Thomas, commander of the US 7th Fleet, took the decision to terminate the three officers, citing “loss of confidence”.

The USS Connecticut, the submarine that crashed into an underwater mountain in the South China, was subsequently forced to sail on the surface for a week to reach the Guam island in the Western Pacific Ocean, AFP reported.

Eleven sailors were injured in the crash. Although the collision damaged the vessel’s forward ballast tanks, its nuclear plant was not damaged, according to the agency.

“Thomas determined sound judgement, prudent decision-making and adherence to required procedures in navigation planning, watch team execution and risk management could have prevented the incident,” the United States Navy said in a press release.

The Navy added that the submarine is undergoing damage assessment at Guam, and will subsequently be taken to Bremerton city in Washington for repairs.

The United States Navy has not yet explained how the submarine hit the underwater mountain, according to AP.

While the crash took place on October 2, the Navy did not report the incident for five days, until it had exited the South China Sea.

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Likely write off and not able to go back to service. The repair cost might as well get a new sub.
 
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Likely write off and not able to go back to service. The repair cost might as well get a new sub.

Same thing happened to the Wasp-class LHD USS Bonhomme Richard after it caught fire and severely damaged the ship. It was scrapped after the repairs would cost more than buying a new one.
 
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But US got more ill trained and ill discipline sailors :enjoy: Even US president fired many USN commander due to slack and incompetent training... :enjoy:

Yup, that was exactly my point. There was a famous incident in Singapore with an Arleigh Burke class colliding with a cargo ship as I recall...the Captain was dismissed and discharged.

For this incident the commander was a very young guy, Cameron Aljilani from Anaheim, California (LA Area). His career is not going anywhere after this accident it seems...

In any case - I don't know the context of the accident, should not comment on it unless I know all the details.

Smaller heads always get chopped off first, notice Vice Admiral Karl Thomas, commander of the US 7th Fleet did not take any responsibility. Buck should have stopped at his desk.


November 4, 2021 update: Commander Aljilani was relieved of command, as a result of the underwater accident that occurred earlier. Click here for details.



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Commander Cameron Aljilani, Commanding Officer



Commander Aljilani is a native of Anaheim, California. He graduated from California State University, Fullerton with a degree in Physics. Following graduation, he was commissioned via Officer Candidate School in 2001.

After completing the nuclear power training, Commander Aljilani reported to USS HELENA (SSN 725). During his time on board, HELENA completed two Western Pacific deployments. From October 2009 until May 2012, he served as Combat Systems Officer on board USS BUFFALO (SSN 715) forward-deployed in Guam. During his tour BUFFALO earned the Battle “E” in 2011 and 2012 and was awarded the Arleigh Burke Fleet Trophy in 2012. From January 2015 to June 2016, he served as Executive Officer on board USS NORTH DAKOTA (SSN 784) in Groton, CT. During his tour he completed a short overseas deployment to employing the Navy's first UUVs from a deployed submarine.

Ashore, Commander Aljilani served as the Submarine Operations Officer for Destroyer Squadron Fifteen forward-deployed in Yokosuka, Japan, as the Submarine Operations Training Officer at Tactical Training Group, Pacific in San Diego, CA, and completed a Joint Tour with United States Africa Command (USAFRICOM) as a Counterterrorism Planner and Executive Assistant to the AFRICOM J3, Director of Operations. During his time ashore he completed his Master of Engineering Management degree from Old Dominion University and completed the requirements to become a Joint Qualified Officer (JQO). He currently serves on the Navy Staff (OPNAV N97, Undersea Warfare Division) as Speech Writer and Strategic Communications lead.

Commander Aljilani is entitled to wear the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Navy Commendation Medal (seven awards), Joint Achievement Medal, Navy Achievement Medal (two awards), and various other unit awards. He married and has two young children.

Commander Aljilani took command of USS Connecticut on August 8th, 2019, relieving outgoing CO Commander Carl Trask. See this link for details of the ceremony.

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If that is the case, I would rather the USN kept their Nuke sub on their side of the ocean.

Accidents happen. That is why they are called 'accidents'.

There is no guarantee that this kind of accidents will not happen again, in any Navy.

But you have to learn your lesson and make sure to minimize the chances.
 
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