What's new

US, Pakistan Near Open War; Chinese Ultimatum Warns Washington Against Atta

ChinaToday

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Jan 31, 2011
Messages
4,557
Reaction score
-2
Country
China
Location
United Kingdom
China has officially put the United States on notice that Washington�s planned attack on Pakistan will be interpreted as an act of aggression against Beijing. This blunt warning represents the first known strategic ultimatum received by the United States in half a century, going back to Soviet warnings during the Berlin crisis of 1958-1961, and indicates the grave danger of general war growing out of the US-Pakistan confrontation.
�Any Attack on Pakistan Would be Construed as an Attack on China�

Responding to reports that China has asked the US to respect Pakistan�s sovereignty in the aftermath of the Bin Laden operation, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu used a May 19 press briefing to state Beijing�s categorical demand that the �sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan must be respected.� According to Pakistani diplomatic sources cited by the Times of India, China has �warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China.� This ultimatum was reportedly delivered at the May 9 China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, where the Chinese delegation was led by Vice Prime Minister Wang Qishan and State Councilor Dai Bingguo. Chinese warnings are implicitly backed up by that nation�s nuclear missiles, including an estimated 66 ICBMs, some capable of striking the United States, plus 118 intermediate-range missiles, 36 submarine-launched missiles, and numerous shorter-range systems.

Support from China is seen by regional observers as critically important for Pakistan, which is otherwise caught in a pincers between the US and India: �If US and Indian pressure continues, Pakistan can say �China is behind us. Don�t think we are isolated, we have a potential superpower with us,�� Talat Masood, a political analyst and retired Pakistani general, told AFP.

The Chinese ultimatum came during the visit of Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani in Beijing, during which the host government announced the transfer of 50 state-of-the-art JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan, immediately and without cost. Before his departure, Gilani had stressed the importance of the Pakistan-China alliance, proclaiming: �We are proud to have China as our best and most trusted friend. And China will always find Pakistan standing beside it at all times�.When we speak of this friendship as being taller than the Himalayas and deeper than the oceans it truly captures the essence of our relationship.� These remarks were greeted by whining from US spokesmen, including Idaho Republican Senator Risch.

The simmering strategic crisis between the United States and Pakistan exploded with full force on May 1, with the unilateral and unauthorized US commando raid alleged to have killed the phantomatic Osama bin Laden in a compound at Abottabad, a flagrant violation of Pakistan�s national sovereignty. The timing of this military stunt designed to inflame tensions between the two countries had nothing to do with any alleged Global War on Terror, and everything to do with the late March visit to Pakistan of Prince Bandar, the Saudi Arabian National Security Council chief. This visit had resulted in a de facto alliance between Islamabad and Riyadh, with Pakistan promising troops to put down any US-backed color revolution in the kingdom, while extending nuclear protection to the Saudis, thus making them less vulnerable to US extortion threats to abandon the oil-rich monarchy to the tender mercies of Tehran. A joint move by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to break out of the US empire, whatever one may think of these regimes, would represent a fatal blow for the fading US empire in South Asia.

As for the US claims concerning the supposed Bin Laden raid of May 1, they are a mass of hopeless contradictions which changes from day to day. An analysis of this story is best left to literary critics and writers of theatrical reviews. The only solid and uncontestable fact which emerges is that Pakistan is the leading US target � thus intensifying the anti-Pakistan US policy which has been in place since Obama�s infamous December 2009 West Point speech.

Gilani: Full Force Retaliation to Defend Pakistan�s Strategic Assets

The Chinese warning to Washington came on the heels of Gilani�s statement to the Pakistan Parliament declaring: �Let no one draw any wrong conclusions. Any attack against Pakistan�s strategic assets, whether overt or covert, will find a matching response�. Pakistan reserves the right to retaliate with full force. No one should underestimate the resolve and capability of our nation and armed forces to defend our sacred homeland.� A warning of full force retaliation from a nuclear power such as Pakistan needs to be taken seriously, even by the hardened aggressors of the Obama regime.

The strategic assets Gilani is talking about are the Pakistani nuclear forces, the key to the country�s deterrent strategy against possible aggression by India, egged on by Washington in the framework of the US-India nuclear cooperation accord. The US forces in Afghanistan have not been able to conceal their extensive planning for attempts to seize or destroy Pakistan�s nuclear bombs and warheads. According to a 2009 Fox News report, �The United States has a detailed plan for infiltrating Pakistan and securing its mobile arsenal of nuclear warheads if it appears the country is about to fall under the control of the Taliban, Al Qaeda or other Islamic extremists.� This plan was developed by General Stanley McChrystal when he headed the US Joint Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. JSOC, the force reportedly involved in the Bin Laden operation. is composed of Army Delta Force, Navy SEALs and �a high-tech special intelligence unit known as Task Force Orange.� �Small units could seize [Pakistan�s nukes], disable them, and then centralize them in a secure location,� claimed a source quoted by Fox.

Obama Has Already Approved Sneak Attack on Pakistan�s Nukes

According to the London Sunday Express, Obama has already approved an aggressive move along these lines: �US troops will be deployed in Pakistan if the nation�s nuclear installations come under threat from terrorists out to avenge the killing of Osama Bin Laden� The plan, which would be activated without President Zardari�s consent, provoked an angry reaction from Pakistan officials� Barack Obama would order troops to parachute in to protect key nuclear missile sites. These include the air force�s central Sargodha HQ, home base for nuclear-capable F-16 combat aircraft and at least 80 ballistic missiles.� According to a US official, �The plan is green lit and the President has already shown he is willing to deploy troops in Pakistan if he feels it is important for national security.�

Extreme tension over this issue highlights the brinksmanship and incalculable folly of Obama�s May 1 unilateral raid, which might easily have been interpreted by the Pakistanis as the long-awaited attack on their nuclear forces. According to the New York Times, Obama knew very well he was courting immediate shooting war with Pakistan, and �insisted that the assault force hunting down Osama bin Laden last week be large enough to fight its way out of Pakistan if confronted by hostile local police officers and troops.�

The Shooting Has Already Started

The shooting between US and Pakistani forces escalated on Tuesday May 17, when a US NATO helicopter violated Pakistani airspace in Waziristan. Pakistani forces showed heightened alert status, and opened fire immediately, with the US helicopter shooting back. Two soldiers at a Pakistani check post on the border in the Datta Khel area were wounded.

Possible Pakistani retaliation for this border incursion came in Peshawar on Friday, May 20, when a car bomb apparently targeted a 2-car US consulate convoy, but caused no American deaths or injuries. One Pakistani bystander was killed, and several wounded. In other intelligence warfare, Ary One television reported the name of the CIA station chief in Islamabad, the second top US resident spook there to have his cover blown in six months.

US Envoy Grossman Rejects Pakistani Calls To Stop Border Violations

US Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman, the replacement for the late Richard Holbrooke, on May 19 arrogantly rejected Pakistani calls for guarantees that no more Abottabad-style unilateral operations would be mounted in Pakistan. In refusing to offer such assurances, Grossman claimed that Pakistani officials had never demanded respect for their border in recent years.

In the midst of this strategic crisis, India has gone ahead with inherently provocative scheduled military maneuvers targeting Pakistan. This is the �Vijayee Bhava� (Be Victorious) drill, held in the Thar desert of north Rajastan,. This atomic-biological-chemical Blitzkrieg drill involves the Second Armored Corps, �considered to be the most crucial of the Indian Army�s three principal strike formations tasked with virtually cutting Pakistan in two during a full-fledged war.�

The Nation: A CIA-RAW-Mossad Pseudo-Taliban Countergang

One way to provide the provocation needed to justify a US-Indian attack on Pakistan would be through an increase in terrorist actions attributable to the so-called Taliban. According to the mainstream Pakistani media, the CIA, the Israeli Mossad, and the Indian RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) have created their own version of the Taliban in the form of a terrorist countergang which they control and direct. According to one account, �Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) force in order to destabilize Pakistan.� The former Punjab Regional Commander of the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI), retired Brigadier General Aslam Ghuman, commented: �During my visit to the US, I learned that the Israeli spy agency Mossad, in connivance with Indian agency RAW, under the direct supervision of CIA, planned to destabilize Pakistan at any cost.� Was this countergang responsible for last week�s double bombing in Waziristan, which killed 80 paramilitary police?

According to the same account, Russian intelligence �disclosed that CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his network had provided Al-Qaeda operatives with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons, so that US installations may be targeted and Pakistan be blamed�.� Davis, a JSOC veteran himself, was arrested for the murder of two ISI agents, but then released by the Pakistani government after a suspicious hue and cry by the State Department.

CIA Claims The New Al Qaeda Boss Lives in Waziristan

If the US needs a further pretext for additional raids, it will also be easy to cite the alleged presence in Waziristan of Saif al-Adel, now touted by the CIA as bin Laden�s likely successor as boss of al Qaeda. It is doubtless convenient for Obama�s aggressive intentions that Saif al-Adel can be claimed to reside so close to what is now the hottest border in the world, and not in Finsbury or Flatbush.

In the wake of the unauthorized May 1 US raid, the Pakistani military chief General Kayani had issued his own warning that similar �misadventures� could not be repeated, while announcing that US personnel inside Pakistan would be sharply reduced. In the estimate of one ISI source, there are currently about 7,000 CIA operatives in country, many of them unknown to the Pakistani government. US-Pakistan intelligence sharing has reportedly been downgraded. In response to Kayani�s moves, the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks once again showed its real nature by attempting to discredit the Pakistan commander with dubious US cable reports that he had demanded more Predator drone attacks, not fewer, in recent years.

Especially since Obama�s West Point speech, the CIA has used Predator drone attacks to slaughter civilians with the goal of fomenting civil war inside Pakistan, leading to a breakup of the country along the ethnic lines of Punjab, Sind, Baluchistan, and Pushtunistan. The geopolitical goal is to destroy Pakistan�s potential to be the energy corridor between Iran and China. Selig Harrison has emerged as a top US advocate for Baluchistan succession.

Since May 1, six reported US Predator drones attacks have slain some 42 Pakistani civilians, goading public opinion into a frenzy of anti-US hatred. In response, a joint session of the Pakistani parliament voted unanimously on May 14 to demand an end to American missile strikes, calling on the government to cut NATO�s supply line to Afghanistan if the attacks should continue. Since the Karachi to Khyber Pass supply line carries as much as two thirds of the supplies needed by the Afghanistan invaders, such a cutoff would cause chaos among the NATO forces. All of this points to the inherent insanity of provoking war with the country your supply line runs through.

US Wants to Use Taliban Boss Mullah Omar Against Pakistan

The State Department dropped all preconditions for negotiating with the Taliban back in February, and the US is now reported by the Washington Post to be talking with envoys of Mullah Omar, the legendary one-eyed leader of the Quetta Shura or Taliban ruling council. It is apparent that the US is offering the Taliban an alliance against Pakistan. US regional envoy Grossman is hostile to the Pakistanis, but when it comes to the Taliban he has been nicknamed �Mr. Reconciliation.� By contrast, the US is said to be determined to assassinate the head of the Haqqani network using a Bin Laden-type raid. The Pakistanis are equally determined to keep the Haqqani as an ally.

If China stands behind Pakistan, then Russia might be said to stand behind China. Looking forward to the upcoming June 15 meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, Chinese President Hu praised Sino-Russian relations as being �at an unprecedented high point,� with an �obvious strategic ingredient.� In a press conference this week, Russian President Medvedev was obliged indirectly to acknowledge that the much-hyped Obama �reset� with Russia had amounted to very little, since the US ABM missile program in Romania and the rest of eastern Europe, so obviously directed against Russia, means that the START treaty is of dubious value, thus raising the specter of a �new Cold War.� Given the NATO assault on Libya, there would be no UN resolution against Syria, said Medvedev. Putin has been right all along, and Medvedev is trying to imitate Putin to salvage some chance of remaining in power.

Are We in July 1914?

The crisis leading to World War I began with the Sarajevo assassinations of June 28, 1914, but the first major declaration of war did not occur until August 1. In the interim month of July 1914, large parts of European public opinion retreated into a dreamlike trance, an idyllic la-la land of elegiac illusion, even as the deadly crisis gathered momentum. Something similar can be seen today. Many Americans fondly imagine that the alleged death of Bin Laden marks the end of the war on terror and the Afghan War. Instead, the Bin Laden operation has clearly ushered in a new strategic emergency. Forces which had opposed the Iraq war, from MSNBC to many left liberals of the peace movement, are variously supporting Obama�s bloody aggression in Libya, or even celebrating him as a more effective warmonger than Bush-Cheney because of his supposed success at the expense of Bin Laden. In reality, if there were ever a time to mobilize to stop a new and wider war, this is it.

Pakistan News Service - PakTribune
 
It is a long held belief that talibans, TTP and AQ worked only and only for US intrest. Remember US could never get base or an ally in the neighbourhood of two international powers hence they propped up these proxies to fight for their intrest namely the Afghan-Soviet wars but what warrants that these agents will not accept another task to advance nefarious american goals. After all they were created and financed by for america the great satan!
 
China has officially put the United States on notice that Washington�s planned attack on Pakistan will be interpreted as an act of aggression against Beijing. This blunt warning represents the first known strategic ultimatum received by the United States in half a century, going back to Soviet warnings during the Berlin crisis of 1958-1961, and indicates the grave danger of general war growing out of the US-Pakistan confrontation.
�Any Attack on Pakistan Would be Construed as an Attack on China�

Responding to reports that China has asked the US to respect Pakistan�s sovereignty in the aftermath of the Bin Laden operation, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu used a May 19 press briefing to state Beijing�s categorical demand that the �sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan must be respected.� According to Pakistani diplomatic sources cited by the Times of India, China has �warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China.� This ultimatum was reportedly delivered at the May 9 China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, where the Chinese delegation was led by Vice Prime Minister Wang Qishan and State Councilor Dai Bingguo. Chinese warnings are implicitly backed up by that nation�s nuclear missiles, including an estimated 66 ICBMs, some capable of striking the United States, plus 118 intermediate-range missiles, 36 submarine-launched missiles, and numerous shorter-range systems.

Support from China is seen by regional observers as critically important for Pakistan, which is otherwise caught in a pincers between the US and India: �If US and Indian pressure continues, Pakistan can say �China is behind us. Don�t think we are isolated, we have a potential superpower with us,�� Talat Masood, a political analyst and retired Pakistani general, told AFP.

The Chinese ultimatum came during the visit of Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani in Beijing, during which the host government announced the transfer of 50 state-of-the-art JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan, immediately and without cost. Before his departure, Gilani had stressed the importance of the Pakistan-China alliance, proclaiming: �We are proud to have China as our best and most trusted friend. And China will always find Pakistan standing beside it at all times�.When we speak of this friendship as being taller than the Himalayas and deeper than the oceans it truly captures the essence of our relationship.� These remarks were greeted by whining from US spokesmen, including Idaho Republican Senator Risch.

The simmering strategic crisis between the United States and Pakistan exploded with full force on May 1, with the unilateral and unauthorized US commando raid alleged to have killed the phantomatic Osama bin Laden in a compound at Abottabad, a flagrant violation of Pakistan�s national sovereignty. The timing of this military stunt designed to inflame tensions between the two countries had nothing to do with any alleged Global War on Terror, and everything to do with the late March visit to Pakistan of Prince Bandar, the Saudi Arabian National Security Council chief. This visit had resulted in a de facto alliance between Islamabad and Riyadh, with Pakistan promising troops to put down any US-backed color revolution in the kingdom, while extending nuclear protection to the Saudis, thus making them less vulnerable to US extortion threats to abandon the oil-rich monarchy to the tender mercies of Tehran. A joint move by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to break out of the US empire, whatever one may think of these regimes, would represent a fatal blow for the fading US empire in South Asia.

As for the US claims concerning the supposed Bin Laden raid of May 1, they are a mass of hopeless contradictions which changes from day to day. An analysis of this story is best left to literary critics and writers of theatrical reviews. The only solid and uncontestable fact which emerges is that Pakistan is the leading US target � thus intensifying the anti-Pakistan US policy which has been in place since Obama�s infamous December 2009 West Point speech.

Gilani: Full Force Retaliation to Defend Pakistan�s Strategic Assets

The Chinese warning to Washington came on the heels of Gilani�s statement to the Pakistan Parliament declaring: �Let no one draw any wrong conclusions. Any attack against Pakistan�s strategic assets, whether overt or covert, will find a matching response�. Pakistan reserves the right to retaliate with full force. No one should underestimate the resolve and capability of our nation and armed forces to defend our sacred homeland.� A warning of full force retaliation from a nuclear power such as Pakistan needs to be taken seriously, even by the hardened aggressors of the Obama regime.

The strategic assets Gilani is talking about are the Pakistani nuclear forces, the key to the country�s deterrent strategy against possible aggression by India, egged on by Washington in the framework of the US-India nuclear cooperation accord. The US forces in Afghanistan have not been able to conceal their extensive planning for attempts to seize or destroy Pakistan�s nuclear bombs and warheads. According to a 2009 Fox News report, �The United States has a detailed plan for infiltrating Pakistan and securing its mobile arsenal of nuclear warheads if it appears the country is about to fall under the control of the Taliban, Al Qaeda or other Islamic extremists.� This plan was developed by General Stanley McChrystal when he headed the US Joint Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. JSOC, the force reportedly involved in the Bin Laden operation. is composed of Army Delta Force, Navy SEALs and �a high-tech special intelligence unit known as Task Force Orange.� �Small units could seize [Pakistan�s nukes], disable them, and then centralize them in a secure location,� claimed a source quoted by Fox.

Obama Has Already Approved Sneak Attack on Pakistan�s Nukes

According to the London Sunday Express, Obama has already approved an aggressive move along these lines: �US troops will be deployed in Pakistan if the nation�s nuclear installations come under threat from terrorists out to avenge the killing of Osama Bin Laden� The plan, which would be activated without President Zardari�s consent, provoked an angry reaction from Pakistan officials� Barack Obama would order troops to parachute in to protect key nuclear missile sites. These include the air force�s central Sargodha HQ, home base for nuclear-capable F-16 combat aircraft and at least 80 ballistic missiles.� According to a US official, �The plan is green lit and the President has already shown he is willing to deploy troops in Pakistan if he feels it is important for national security.�

Extreme tension over this issue highlights the brinksmanship and incalculable folly of Obama�s May 1 unilateral raid, which might easily have been interpreted by the Pakistanis as the long-awaited attack on their nuclear forces. According to the New York Times, Obama knew very well he was courting immediate shooting war with Pakistan, and �insisted that the assault force hunting down Osama bin Laden last week be large enough to fight its way out of Pakistan if confronted by hostile local police officers and troops.�

The Shooting Has Already Started

The shooting between US and Pakistani forces escalated on Tuesday May 17, when a US NATO helicopter violated Pakistani airspace in Waziristan. Pakistani forces showed heightened alert status, and opened fire immediately, with the US helicopter shooting back. Two soldiers at a Pakistani check post on the border in the Datta Khel area were wounded.

Possible Pakistani retaliation for this border incursion came in Peshawar on Friday, May 20, when a car bomb apparently targeted a 2-car US consulate convoy, but caused no American deaths or injuries. One Pakistani bystander was killed, and several wounded. In other intelligence warfare, Ary One television reported the name of the CIA station chief in Islamabad, the second top US resident spook there to have his cover blown in six months.

US Envoy Grossman Rejects Pakistani Calls To Stop Border Violations

US Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman, the replacement for the late Richard Holbrooke, on May 19 arrogantly rejected Pakistani calls for guarantees that no more Abottabad-style unilateral operations would be mounted in Pakistan. In refusing to offer such assurances, Grossman claimed that Pakistani officials had never demanded respect for their border in recent years.

In the midst of this strategic crisis, India has gone ahead with inherently provocative scheduled military maneuvers targeting Pakistan. This is the �Vijayee Bhava� (Be Victorious) drill, held in the Thar desert of north Rajastan,. This atomic-biological-chemical Blitzkrieg drill involves the Second Armored Corps, �considered to be the most crucial of the Indian Army�s three principal strike formations tasked with virtually cutting Pakistan in two during a full-fledged war.�

The Nation: A CIA-RAW-Mossad Pseudo-Taliban Countergang

One way to provide the provocation needed to justify a US-Indian attack on Pakistan would be through an increase in terrorist actions attributable to the so-called Taliban. According to the mainstream Pakistani media, the CIA, the Israeli Mossad, and the Indian RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) have created their own version of the Taliban in the form of a terrorist countergang which they control and direct. According to one account, �Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) force in order to destabilize Pakistan.� The former Punjab Regional Commander of the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI), retired Brigadier General Aslam Ghuman, commented: �During my visit to the US, I learned that the Israeli spy agency Mossad, in connivance with Indian agency RAW, under the direct supervision of CIA, planned to destabilize Pakistan at any cost.� Was this countergang responsible for last week�s double bombing in Waziristan, which killed 80 paramilitary police?

According to the same account, Russian intelligence �disclosed that CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his network had provided Al-Qaeda operatives with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons, so that US installations may be targeted and Pakistan be blamed�.� Davis, a JSOC veteran himself, was arrested for the murder of two ISI agents, but then released by the Pakistani government after a suspicious hue and cry by the State Department.

CIA Claims The New Al Qaeda Boss Lives in Waziristan

If the US needs a further pretext for additional raids, it will also be easy to cite the alleged presence in Waziristan of Saif al-Adel, now touted by the CIA as bin Laden�s likely successor as boss of al Qaeda. It is doubtless convenient for Obama�s aggressive intentions that Saif al-Adel can be claimed to reside so close to what is now the hottest border in the world, and not in Finsbury or Flatbush.

In the wake of the unauthorized May 1 US raid, the Pakistani military chief General Kayani had issued his own warning that similar �misadventures� could not be repeated, while announcing that US personnel inside Pakistan would be sharply reduced. In the estimate of one ISI source, there are currently about 7,000 CIA operatives in country, many of them unknown to the Pakistani government. US-Pakistan intelligence sharing has reportedly been downgraded. In response to Kayani�s moves, the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks once again showed its real nature by attempting to discredit the Pakistan commander with dubious US cable reports that he had demanded more Predator drone attacks, not fewer, in recent years.

Especially since Obama�s West Point speech, the CIA has used Predator drone attacks to slaughter civilians with the goal of fomenting civil war inside Pakistan, leading to a breakup of the country along the ethnic lines of Punjab, Sind, Baluchistan, and Pushtunistan. The geopolitical goal is to destroy Pakistan�s potential to be the energy corridor between Iran and China. Selig Harrison has emerged as a top US advocate for Baluchistan succession.

Since May 1, six reported US Predator drones attacks have slain some 42 Pakistani civilians, goading public opinion into a frenzy of anti-US hatred. In response, a joint session of the Pakistani parliament voted unanimously on May 14 to demand an end to American missile strikes, calling on the government to cut NATO�s supply line to Afghanistan if the attacks should continue. Since the Karachi to Khyber Pass supply line carries as much as two thirds of the supplies needed by the Afghanistan invaders, such a cutoff would cause chaos among the NATO forces. All of this points to the inherent insanity of provoking war with the country your supply line runs through.

US Wants to Use Taliban Boss Mullah Omar Against Pakistan

The State Department dropped all preconditions for negotiating with the Taliban back in February, and the US is now reported by the Washington Post to be talking with envoys of Mullah Omar, the legendary one-eyed leader of the Quetta Shura or Taliban ruling council. It is apparent that the US is offering the Taliban an alliance against Pakistan. US regional envoy Grossman is hostile to the Pakistanis, but when it comes to the Taliban he has been nicknamed �Mr. Reconciliation.� By contrast, the US is said to be determined to assassinate the head of the Haqqani network using a Bin Laden-type raid. The Pakistanis are equally determined to keep the Haqqani as an ally.

If China stands behind Pakistan, then Russia might be said to stand behind China. Looking forward to the upcoming June 15 meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, Chinese President Hu praised Sino-Russian relations as being �at an unprecedented high point,� with an �obvious strategic ingredient.� In a press conference this week, Russian President Medvedev was obliged indirectly to acknowledge that the much-hyped Obama �reset� with Russia had amounted to very little, since the US ABM missile program in Romania and the rest of eastern Europe, so obviously directed against Russia, means that the START treaty is of dubious value, thus raising the specter of a �new Cold War.� Given the NATO assault on Libya, there would be no UN resolution against Syria, said Medvedev. Putin has been right all along, and Medvedev is trying to imitate Putin to salvage some chance of remaining in power.

Are We in July 1914?

The crisis leading to World War I began with the Sarajevo assassinations of June 28, 1914, but the first major declaration of war did not occur until August 1. In the interim month of July 1914, large parts of European public opinion retreated into a dreamlike trance, an idyllic la-la land of elegiac illusion, even as the deadly crisis gathered momentum. Something similar can be seen today. Many Americans fondly imagine that the alleged death of Bin Laden marks the end of the war on terror and the Afghan War. Instead, the Bin Laden operation has clearly ushered in a new strategic emergency. Forces which had opposed the Iraq war, from MSNBC to many left liberals of the peace movement, are variously supporting Obama�s bloody aggression in Libya, or even celebrating him as a more effective warmonger than Bush-Cheney because of his supposed success at the expense of Bin Laden. In reality, if there were ever a time to mobilize to stop a new and wider war, this is it.

Pakistan News Service - PakTribune

An accurate analysis of the events in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Of cousre, the messengers of CIA, Mossad and Raw will present their version to refute this analysis.
 
Pakistan may very well be the final resting place of the US power monopoly........
Let every Pak patriot take an oath, an oath to defend our motherland against any foreign aggression, an oath that when all hell breaks lose we will not run we will stand and fight till the bitter end and to our last breath and till the last drop of our blood has been spilt, and oath that we are not just some nation to be bullied and will fight in the way of defending our great nation........Pakistan

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
 
Q: Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani said yesterday that during their talks, the Chinese side brought up the killing of Bin Laden and stated that the unilateral action of the US posed a threat to Pakistan's sovereignty. Would you please confirm? Will China intervene if a similar event occurs in the future?

A: Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani is visiting China. Chairman Jia Qinglin of the CPPCC will meet with him this afternoon, and leaders of the two countries will later attend relevant celebration activities of the 60th anniversary of diplomatic ties. President Hu Jintao will meet with Prime Minister Gilani on May 20. As for Premier Wen Jiabao's meeting with Prime Minister Gilani, we have released relevant information, to which you may refer.

On the counter-terrorism issue, we believe that Pakistan has made major contribution to international counter-terrorism campaign with huge sacrifice. The international community should understand and support Pakistan's efforts to safeguard domestic stability and realize economic and social development. Pakistan's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected.
link

See that word, "independence"? That diplo-speak means Pakistan is on its own, folks.
 
One thread is already running on this and was started at the time of death of Osama Bin Laden, now again after attack on PAkistan Naval Base.
 
I am so tired of reading that China said this or China said that to the USA, India, Israel, Quattar, Belgium and other :blah::blah::blah: when it comes to Pakistan. It seems that everytime China opens its mouth to warn the USA or any other country against disrespecting the sovereignity of Pakistan, the USA sends in a few more drones into Pakistan almost as if they are testing China. :undecided:
 
A comprehensively accurate and meticulously analytical article, one of a few I have seen in current days within all those pro-American and anti-state articles. Kudos to W.G.Tarpley for making it clear and linking events to one another, it will help narrow-minded, self-proclaimed specialists to understand the scenario on global chessboard.

It seems that self-imposed war on terror has ultimately pushed Pakistan into right direction, direction of straightening its priorities regarding alliances with nations. It seems that dream of being an ally to the west was after all what it was, a wet dream.

Current political juggling in Pakistan states that, Pakistan as a country is mending its ties; diverting its priorities towards its surroundings (exclusion of India is eminent). Visits of President Zardari to Russia, visit of Prime Minister Gillani to our All-Weather friend China, Interior Minister Abdul Rehman Malik’s Visit to Tehran are some of the few step in a new direction.

Keeping in view that China has always stood behind Pakistan in last 63 years, supporting us in every possible problem, internally and externally, there is no reason to question China’s standing. People would certainly ask why would Iran and Russia will help in case Pakistan comes under threat from NATO forces?

As I have mentioned earlier in few threads on this forum, one should not look these events in isolation, it is a part of a global game, and no matter how much we want, we are in such a strategically important location that we cannot avoid it. We will have to be part of it whether we like it or not.

As far as Russia and Iran’s sincerity with Pakistan is concerned, no doubt it is questionable, we are neither enemies, nor their friends. There is an old saying, “enemy of my enemy is my friend”, hence, recent developments. Iran is currently under extensive pressure from US and will help anyone standing against USA; Russia on the other hand, has a score to settle, along with recent development in Eastern Europe.

Application of Pakistan to become a permanent member of SCO is also part of the same upcoming scenario. Though India has also applied for SCO membership, but it is highly possible that the application would be rejected as India has a policy against joining any block. This will mean having a member in SCO which will not support an on-going process of a stronger alliance.

It is my reading and anyone could contradict it, that we are looking at a bi-polar or tri-polar world in coming days. It depends upon United Nation to play its part right now to stop US and NATO forces for this destructive approach.

It is going to be another “cold war” if the UN plays its deemed role or “WW3” if it doesn’t, so right now, the world is in between a rock and a hard place, every move needs to be taken carefully.

Just my two cents..
 
Pakistan may very well be the final resting place of the US power monopoly........
Let every Pak patriot take an oath, an oath to defend our motherland against any foreign aggression, an oath that when all hell breaks lose we will not run we will stand and fight till the bitter end and to our last breath and till the last drop of our blood has been spilt, and oath that we are not just some nation to be bullied and will fight in the way of defending our great nation........Pakistan

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

Pakistanis have always done that, and will always do.. thats a given!!!!!

Pakistan Zindabad...
 
link

See that word, "independence"? That diplo-speak means Pakistan is on its own, folks.

Don't shoot arrows in the air in a hope to hit something, please mention which portion you are mentioning from those Q & A.

Thanks
 
I am so tired of reading that China said this or China said that to the USA, India, Israel, Quattar, Belgium and other :blah::blah::blah: when it comes to Pakistan. It seems that everytime China opens its mouth to warn the USA or any other country against disrespecting the sovereignity of Pakistan, the USA sends in a few more drones into Pakistan almost as if they are testing China. :undecided:

Your post is what all Pakistanis love to see.. that's the "fun" side of it..

Besides, allowed (drones) actions are different from non-allowed (OBL type) operations..

Hope you understand..
 
Don't shoot arrows in the air in a hope to hit something, please mention which portion you are mentioning from those Q & A.
Thanks
Think it over. Since China is explicitly asserting Pakistani independence then it follows that China is saying it will NOT intervene if Pakistani sovereignty is violated again; Pakistani "independence" means Pakistan is on its own in this regard.
 
Think it over. Since China is explicitly asserting Pakistani independence then it follows that China is saying it will NOT intervene if Pakistani sovereignty is violated again; Pakistani "independence" means Pakistan is on its own in this regard.

WOW.. thats called "door ki kori laana" (not for you)

Anyways, its you who should think about it mate.. China doesn't need to come "inside" Pakistan to stop Invaders or aggressors.. Any attack on Pakistan will be initiated from OUTSIDE of Pakistan, let it be Afghanistan or India..

Think about it ;)
 
Your post is what all Pakistanis love to see.. that's the "fun" side of it..

Besides, allowed (drones) actions are different from non-allowed (OBL type) operations..

Hope you understand..

I clearly understand. My view is that if China was granted a golden opportunity, it was the OBL operation. If China could put word into action by openly condemning the actions of the USA such as moving a resolution condemning the USA or NATO at UNO level etc or perhaps demanding an explaination from the USA for its conduct, I would say that it was being genuine. But instead all we hear is that "China demands that the USA respects the sovereignity or independence etc of Pakistan" and that "China stands behind Pakistan". It's like your big sized buddy standing behind you in the school playground encouraging you to fight the school bully whilst yelling "if he beats you up again I'm gonna be standing right behind you buddy!". Then China issues a statement in the same breath to the effect that "you need to mend your fences with your neighbors and to stop permitting your land to be used by terror groups". Now that's similar to that big sized buddy in the school playground encouraging you to take on the school bully and remarking after you get a whipping "look I am behind you but you really are the blame for your own messed up condition". Reminds me also of those western movies I used to watch as a kid where the Red Indians say "white man speak with forked tongue"
 
Back
Top Bottom