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US May designate IRGC as a terrorist organization soon.

So are you guys going to respond or is it going to be another milquetoast IRI response.

"Iran Slams US listing of IRGC terror status"
 
What impact will it have now that the mullah protection guard is designated as a terrorist organization?

Will Iran do the same to US army?
 
So are you guys going to respond or is it going to be another milquetoast IRI response.

"Iran Slams US listing of IRGC terror status"

yes we are going to put US military in terror lest maybe tomorrow. and then, let me just say let the game begin.

What impact will it have now that the mullah protection guard is designated as a terrorist organization?

Will Iran do the same to US army?

impact ? nothing. IRGC, they were sanctioned long time ago

yes we are going to put US military in terror lest maybe tomorrow.
 
impact ? nothing. IRGC, they were sanctioned long time ago

yes we are going to put US military in terror lest maybe tomorrow.

Ok, then lets wait and see. The coming months will show us the real picture. Since Iran doesnt have much business with US operated banks, I guess this move is more symbolic. But still designating some entity as a "terrorist organization" is a huge step.
 
Army Chief visited IRGC office last year if i am not wrong yet they were the one barking few weeks ago on Pakistan in crucial time, so let it be.
 
yes we are going to put US military in terror lest maybe tomorrow. and then, let me just say let the game begin.



impact ? nothing. IRGC, they were sanctioned long time ago

yes we are going to put US military in terror lest maybe tomorrow.

https://www.rt.com/news/455899-iran-supreme-council-us-troops-terror-list/

This will have consequences outside just simple monetary matters, those regarding sanctioning entities directly or indirectly associated with the IRGC. On a completely technically level, IRGC is now a terrorist organization (as per what the US says) and not a legitimate state military meaning the US has FULL discretion to attack any and all IRGC assets. This is more or less a proclamation of WAR. Logically Iran's stance must match US's stance since there will be no peace any longer between Iran and Israeli dominated US.

US has burned all diplomatic bridges of any sort, Iran is responding in kind meaning kinetic conflict really is the only ultimate outcome. We will see what happens admittedly but my gut feeling is saying that the US will absolutely capitalize on the floods in Iran and discontent from Iranians in general to further pressure Iran into submitting in several key areas. Although this designation is an extremely hostile move that denotes a much more malicious intention in all honesty....

IRGC targets in Syria and Iraq were previously not fair game since IRGC wasn't a terrorist organization, now they any and all IRGC assets are targets as per US mission statement against terrorism world-wide. You guys better be ready to weather the storm, that's all I'll say on that front.

To end this somber news... What I saw happen today is something that I never really thought would come to fruition. IRGC is (whether one likes them or not) an integral part of Iran's national security. Relegating a powerful military force like that to terrorist status is a REALLY dumb move. I was always highly critical of US foreign policy and Israeli control in Washington, now I sincerely don't know what to even say or do. We can only hope Trump sods off and dies or doesn't get re-elected to a second-term: maybe even allowing the next President to mend whatever ties are left but Trump has set up the succeeding President to find it very difficult to oppose Israeli rule as well as establish ties with Iran ever again without a MASSIVE change in overall US policy in the Middle-East theater.

As always I could be wrong in my analysis but OldTwilight's words on this forum are ringing more and more truth than ever before. In hindsight, Iran made a mistake in dealing with the US, that much is clear (at least it seems to me that way).
 
So are you guys going to respond or is it going to be another milquetoast IRI response.

"Iran Slams US listing of IRGC terror status"
Unfortunately so long as rouhani remains in power I dont think we`ll see any big changes in his policy of appeasement..er.. I mean "strategic patience";).
Only when this lame duck president,and lets have make no mistake about it,with the failure of the jcpoa thats exactly what he is now,a lame duck,and only when he is out of office will things change.So sadly its still a little over 2 years until we see the end of the rouhani regime,unless of course he resigns,but sadly once a politician achieves power they are usually pretty reluctant to give it up before they actually have to,pity really because about the one thing that he could do now politically that would be good for his country is exactly that...resign.:wave:
 
Problem is that we do not have capabilities to defend ourselves without going suicidal. This is our weakness.
 
i think there is no need to panic, it maybe just symbolic designation. Russia and China will oppose any physical move against Iran. Even Pakistan as neighbor.
 
https://www.rt.com/news/455899-iran-supreme-council-us-troops-terror-list/

This will have consequences outside just simple monetary matters, those regarding sanctioning entities directly or indirectly associated with the IRGC. On a completely technically level, IRGC is now a terrorist organization (as per what the US says) and not a legitimate state military meaning the US has FULL discretion to attack any and all IRGC assets. This is more or less a proclamation of WAR. Logically Iran's stance must match US's stance since there will be no peace any longer between Iran and Israeli dominated US.

US has burned all diplomatic bridges of any sort, Iran is responding in kind meaning kinetic conflict really is the only ultimate outcome. We will see what happens admittedly but my gut feeling is saying that the US will absolutely capitalize on the floods in Iran and discontent from Iranians in general to further pressure Iran into submitting in several key areas. Although this designation is an extremely hostile move that denotes a much more malicious intention in all honesty....

IRGC targets in Syria and Iraq were previously not fair game since IRGC wasn't a terrorist organization, now they any and all IRGC assets are targets as per US mission statement against terrorism world-wide. You guys better be ready to weather the storm, that's all I'll say on that front.

To end this somber news... What I saw happen today is something that I never really thought would come to fruition. IRGC is (whether one likes them or not) an integral part of Iran's national security. Relegating a powerful military force like that to terrorist status is a REALLY dumb move. I was always highly critical of US foreign policy and Israeli control in Washington, now I sincerely don't know what to even say or do. We can only hope Trump sods off and dies or doesn't get re-elected to a second-term: maybe even allowing the next President to mend whatever ties are left but Trump has set up the succeeding President to find it very difficult to oppose Israeli rule as well as establish ties with Iran ever again without a MASSIVE change in overall US policy in the Middle-East theater.

As always I could be wrong in my analysis but OldTwilight's words on this forum are ringing more and more truth than ever before. In hindsight, Iran made a mistake in dealing with the US, that much is clear (at least it seems to me that way).

IRGC they do what they want and i do think this will stop them in any way. slow them? maybe.

Unfortunately so long as rouhani remains in power I dont think we`ll see any big changes in his policy of appeasement..er.. I mean "strategic patience";).
Only when this lame duck president,and lets have make no mistake about it,with the failure of the jcpoa thats exactly what he is now,a lame duck,and only when he is out of office will things change.So sadly its still a little over 2 years until we see the end of the rouhani regime,unless of course he resigns,but sadly once a politician achieves power they are usually pretty reluctant to give it up before they actually have to,pity really because about the one thing that he could do now politically that would be good for his country is exactly that...resign.:wave:

fortunately in Iran laws designating a group terrorist is the parliament job, not the president
 
Just because US designated IRGC a terrorist organization doesn’t mean that the UN did. Thus US cannot cause kinetic damage to IRGC without risking war crimes/tribunal charges.

This is a move ment to reduce IRGC clout and pressure them economically as an organization. Also mostly symbolic as many IRGC companies were already blacklisted.

Iran won’t do anything much either as it cannot afford to escalate the situation. It will continue to wait and see what happens after 2020.

Sooner or later, Iran will have to negotiate. It cant remain under these sanctions forever.
 
Problem is that we do not have capabilities to defend ourselves without going suicidal. This is our weakness.
absolutely right. if tomorrow IRGC launches BMs toward terrorists, US gonna use that to form an alliance against us. while if we had a powerful AF we could have provide air cover for IRGC in syria without escalating situation.

Sooner or later, Iran will have to negotiate. It cant remain under these sanctions forever.
we should build nukes and station hundred of them in lebanon/syria so instead of negotiation for sanctions lift, negotiate over US retreat from ME.
 
Just because US designated IRGC a terrorist organization doesn’t mean that the UN did. Thus US cannot cause kinetic damage to IRGC without risking war crimes/tribunal charges.

This is a move ment to reduce IRGC clout and pressure them economically as an organization. Also mostly symbolic as many IRGC companies were already blacklisted.

Iran won’t do anything much either as it cannot afford to escalate the situation. It will continue to wait and see what happens after 2020.

Sooner or later, Iran will have to negotiate. It cant remain under these sanctions forever.

Just because US designated IRGC a terrorist organization doesn’t mean that the UN did. Thus US cannot cause kinetic damage to IRGC without risking war crimes/tribunal charges.

This is a move ment to reduce IRGC clout and pressure them economically as an organization. Also mostly symbolic as many IRGC companies were already blacklisted.

Iran won’t do anything much either as it cannot afford to escalate the situation. It will continue to wait and see what happens after 2020.

Sooner or later, Iran will have to negotiate. It cant remain under these sanctions forever.

I personally think is a much more than just a simple move. Here's a quote from another thread from a poster commenting on the matter. Not saying you're wrong at all though, by all means I think what you say is very plausible.

"PLEASE people, before this ignorance kills me - can at least one of you begin to THINK IN LEGAL TERMS and begin to comprehend just how serious this is!

The word / designation 'Terrorist' is not just a descriptive - it is a LEGAL TERM under domestic and international laws and aggreements.

If you want to get behind what is going on here you should begin by looking at legal history and the legal aspects of War, firstly considering International Laws and Treaties (plus military conventions and accords), and then domestic laws / acts / etc.

England / Britain was the first nation to use this word in the legal context of stripping undesirable or problematic / militant individuals and groups of ALL rights and ALL protections afforded to them by centuries of International agreements.

The US went further following 9/11. They showed the world how one simple word could (apparently) free them to use violence and murder and commit grave war crimes - yet escape prosecution for WAR CRIMES and prosecution for Incitment to war, prosecution for failure to protect civilian lives, failure to protect civillian infrastructure, failure to take or protect Prisoners of War, and and many other illegal and criminal acts - including using banned munitions.

Legal Weasel words such as 'Kenetic action' and 'Humanitarian Intervention' are used instead of 'WAR' in an attempt to escape the legal implications of DECLARING a War - which is not done today.

THIS IS MASSIVELY IMPORTANT - The US, by designating the Iranian military as 'Terrorist' is a declaration of the following:
The US will not abide by any International Laws, agreements, Treatyies, or Conventions (including the Genevea and Haig Conventions!).
The US will use all any methods, tactics and weapons (including those banned or otherwise illegal) to fight the Iranians, and they will NOT take care of any wounded or any Prisoners, and will NOT protect any civillians or civillian infrasture (including medical hospitals and evacuation ships).

The US is attempting to circumvent, by apparent and bogus imperial decree no less, the very laws that even the harshest of enemies during WW1 and WW2 sought to follow - and then to escape international criminal prosecution!

The Iranians, by designating the US military also as 'Terrorists' have indicated that if no prisoners are to be taken, no international laws are to be followed, and no quarter or mercy given to the wounded or civillians alike - then they too are prepared for that 'Game'."
 

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