U.S. military moves 3 aircraft carrier strike groups near Iran

[pmukherjee]

]If the US is reckless enough to drive a carrier into the straits,[/B] Iran can only reasonably interpret this as an act of aggression, because half of the Strait of Hormuz is Iran's territorial waters.

Iran will wait until the US carrier is in the narrow straits. Then Iran will encircle the carrier with small attack boats to prevent it from going through. If the US keeps acting aggressive, then the boats will detonate against the ship, damaging it. If the US attacks targets on Iran's shore, then Iran will launch its coastal anti-ship missiles against the carrier.

In short, if the USA is reckless and aggressive enough to the Iranians, at least one carrier will be sacrificed. Without using nuclear weapons, USA simply doesn't have the ability to destroy the Iranian state through air power. A ground campaign is impossible also, because USA cannot attack Iran through Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan territory.

An intense exchange of fire and casualties initially followed by a long stalemate and attrition war is the most likely outcome.

The US warships in question are part of the US Fifth Fleet under the US CENTCOM. THe US Fifth Fleet has its HQ at Manama, Bahrain. To get to Manama, every US warship has to cross the Strait of Hormuz. How does an US carrier reporting to its HQ constitute reckless behaviour?

 

[azbaroj]

Thinking of ordering one?

Thinking of drowning them .

 

[Arian]

Frankly I have never heard of assymetrical naval or air victories or may be I am weak in history.

you'll hear. Just be patient. Some people now are doing the math to see if they want to try an assymetrical warfare or not and so far have decided not to try it

 

[azbaroj]

Will any one let me know how & with what arms Iran would be able to drown US Air Craft carrier ? Is it hypothetically possible for Iran to drown US air craft carriers ?

 

[harpoon]

Thinking of drowning them .

Good luck with that

 

[oFFbEAT]

No it won't. No one should be looking towards war. More Irianian women and children will die, while only a few high school drop out and American degenerate will die. America will be safe and the MidEast will suffer.

This is what you think about the soldiers protecting your country?? (assuming you are an American).
The soldiers never opt for any war....they only carry out orders from Civilian govts., and if the govt. is democratically elected(like yours), then you(the common people) are responsible for the war.

I don't see how anyone can look forward to seeing women and children die. It is really sad.

How are women different from other human beings(men).......OR are you the type..who think MEN are responsible for all the bad things on earth.......modern WOMEN play equally vital role in policy making as men do.

So war is despicable not just because WOMEN suffer.....it is despicable because PEOPLE suffer(irrespective of MEN,WOMEN & CHILDREN)

 

[Hack-Hook]

The US warships in question are part of the US Fifth Fleet under the US CENTCOM. THe US Fifth Fleet has its HQ at Manama, Bahrain. To get to Manama, every US warship has to cross the Strait of Hormuz. How does an US carrier reporting to its HQ constitute reckless behaviour?

well nobody tell them not to report to their headquarter Iran only tell them you are not allowed in
our territorial water. but you can enter Persian Gulf from UAE side of the strait (provided that you
can navigate your ships there).

by the way If it was in Iran special economic zone then yes Iran had no right to stop those ship but
it's in Iran territorial water till now we gave permission to them to pass throw it but now we don't
give them the permission to do that .
don't you think sending your navy into a sovereign and not very friendly country without their
permission is a little reckless ?

 

[kesh.chandra]

This is what you think about the soldiers protecting your country?? (assuming you are an American).
The soldiers never opt for any war....they only carry out orders from Civilian govts., and if the govt. is democratically elected(like yours), then you(the common people) are responsible for the war.





How are women different from other human beings(men).......OR are you the type..who think MEN are responsible for all the bad things on earth.......modern WOMEN play equally vital role in policy making as men do.

So war is despicable not just because WOMEN suffer.....it is despicable because PEOPLE suffer(irrespective of MEN,WOMEN & CHILDREN)

The fleet size wont affect the situation. For a time being it will work merely as pressure deployment and even for US it wont be easy to play any aggressive role in arab sea region.
-China has mass oil and other goods movement in this region. China is taking this US aggression more offensive then the case of pakisthan US issues(Involvement of more personal interests).
-Russia is taking it as more US direct involvement in asia internal issues. And surely will help Iran via front door if any direct conflict occur.
-US has presidential election 2012 at home and this time obama not want any more opposition.

 

[Holmes]

Keep US out of Asia, if we ever want to have peace.

 

[harpoon]

Keep US out of Asia, if we ever want to have peace.

Thats just a left liberal 'Politically Correct' statement with no bearing on how the world works.

 

[Rafael]

Yeah! U absolutely right .....Iranianz are going to beat the Sh*t out of US in this coming war, without any doubt.....Lets wait and watch...cuz the showdown gonna be full of action and suspense. Hey! Guyz get tight now.....

That show can very well be extended a little more, once it gets started.

Mark my words, they will come for us after they are done with Iran.

 

[Holmes]

May be so Mr.Harpoon, maybe so.
people can choose to vote for any political party they want.

 

[pmukherjee]

well nobody tell them not to report to their headquarter Iran only tell them you are not allowed in
our territorial water. but you can enter Persian Gulf from UAE side of the strait (provided that you
can navigate your ships there).

by the way If it was in Iran special economic zone then yes Iran had no right to stop those ship but
it's in Iran territorial water till now we gave permission to them to pass throw it but now we don't
give them the permission to do that .
don't you think sending your navy into a sovereign and not very friendly country without their
permission is a little reckless ?

Indeed, it looks like the Americans have a serious problem on their hands. As far as we Indians are concerned, we do not want a war between the US and Iran. We get 12% of our oil imports from you and a war will certainly disrupt the oil supply with disastrous results on our economy. Iran is a friend of India, so far we have resisted US pressures to stop importing oil from Iran. We don't want the situation to get any worse.

 

[anon45]

US/ West is now on the mercy of Iran and any type of aggression can bring the US back to stone age. Heavily indebted economies of US+EU are set to collapse if Iran opens fire on them.

That's really too bad, because if Iran fires for crossing the straits of Hormuz we are going to be forced to respond. It's sad that in a war between the United States and Iran it is the US that is going to be sent back to the stone age according to you. The carriers will cross the straits, and if it is as you say, war will begin by Iran's choosing .

First West can’t fund any new war and second even high oil prices due to short term confrontations may hit their economies so hard that they will feel its pain for a long. Also it’s very likely that world may then be dragged into WW3 as other powers like China, Russia, India won’t accept fall of Iran. US can’t win over Iran and more the trouble they will create, more they will pay for it’s cost. I would advise, US and her allies to better understand the environment and try to protect their honor as much as they can. They have to live with a powerful Iran, sooner they accept, better it is for them.

Well then World War 3 will come because Iran attacks carriers traversing the straits of Hormuz.

Surely if the US can't win over Iran in a naval contest they have no capability to call themselves the only true global naval power.

Iran can be as powerful as it wants without breaking its obligations and endangering the global economy, but once it does such it becomes our problem, and we are forced to respond for the sake of preserving the authority of global agreements, along with our own core interests of preserving freedom of maritime movement for all our ships. If we did not do such they would have no meaning.

(US’s society isn’t that strong that their people may maintain peace when they can’t get unemployment benefits/ pensions. Also, Gun/ Drugs culture of US isn’t hidden, it just needs a good start in US, and that’s it. as education isn’t the criterion of getting success in life in US, whoever will show strength over others, will go high, and that time isn’t far away in US. Whoever will show strength, will capture whatever he can, it just require a real economic free fall/ recession in US.)

Huh? We've had economic free falls and recessions in recurring cycles many times in our history, and that has never come to pass.

In anycase all I can say Hello_10 is COME BACK TO REALITY.

US carriers will definately cross the straits, Iran will most likely not fire on them, and the tension will continue.

If not then well, the US will be getting its combined navy, airforce, and military beaten back to the stone age while Iran emerges unscathed in glorious victory

You just love sensationalism.

 

[Hello_10]

Indeed, it looks like the Americans have a serious problem on their hands. As far as we Indians are concerned, we do not want a war between the US and Iran. We get 12% of our oil imports from you and a war will certainly disrupt the oil supply with disastrous results on our economy. Iran is a friend of India, so far we have resisted US pressures to stop importing oil from Iran. We don't want the situation to get any worse.

If you want to analyze the situation then, first Iran knows that they won’t make nukes and at the same time they are threatened that they may be attacked by nuclear weapons so if they also keep nuclear weapons then they may be better protected/ safe. And the logic behind it is, if Iran will ever use nukes against Israel, for example, then here Israel is also capable enough to do so with Iran both by 5th gen stealth F35 aircrafts/ with missiles also? Then, even if Iran may acquire Nukes in the worst case, they won’t use it until they also want to be attacked by nuclear weapons which they won’t, isn’t it? Then why US/ West is threatened with a nuclear Iran if they also have too 1000s of nukes? While we find Iran in a little better state than nuclear power Pakistan? Then why heavily nuclear armed West is threatened with a nuclear Iran while Iran openly says that their nuclear program is for Peaceful Purposes only?

Second reason is made for a proactive attack on Iran is to ‘change regime’. And here, law are order situation in most of the gulf countries are not very good. public hanging and human rights problems for women is bad in almost everywhere including in Saudi Arabia, then why only Iran is on target? Also, we find most of the Iran’s civilians defending their rulers so how it matters to people like us who don’t live in Iran? Why do we want to interfere in any country until it doesn’t affect our health?

Also, even if there is always a bomb blast in Iran by intelligent efforts, like recent killing of their one nuclear scientists, there is none case that Iran’s intelligents organized the same in Western countries including in Israel. There is no case that Iran interfere in other’s country like how NATO claims that militants in Afghan get support from Pakistan side, then why Iran is facing so many sanctions which is just intended to break down it’s economy while Iran is always ready to co-operate with UN’s inspectors? I remember how UN’s inspectors even inspected Saddam’s fort also but when they didn’t find any WMD, US and her allies attacked Iraq, everyone know. So Iran’s rulers also have thinking that if they may prove that they do have nuclear weapons, they won’t be attacked. I believe, if Iran will ever think to make nuclear weapons then it will only because this is how they may survive and it’s US who has created this situation.