U.S. military moves 3 aircraft carrier strike groups near Iran

[Harry_Thomason]

Will any one let me know how & with what arms Iran would be able to drown US Air Craft carrier ? Is it hypothetically possible for Iran to drown US air craft carriers ?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/139008-analysis-war-against-iran.html

 

[Hello_10]

That's really too bad, because if Iran fires for crossing the straits of Hormuz we are going to be forced to respond. It's sad that in a war between the United States and Iran it is the US that is going to be sent back to the stone age according to you. The carriers will cross the straits, and if it is as you say, war will begin by Iran's choosing .

Anon, its not much about “crossing the straits” but it’s mainly because of sanctions on Iran. and if they will face more economic problems then they would hit back, very obvious. As, if they gotto die then better they would take you with them also, isn’t it? And if they won’t find right time to attack while US’s ACs crossing the straits, then on other occasions, if they gotto do something then they will do. Its US whether they force Iran to that level or not by imposing sanctions. As I find you talking so high mainly because you think 3 ACs all together can help each other in bad case. Sending one AC to that region isn’t considered anymore by US after warning from Iran’s side? isn’t it a defeat for US while they haven’t fought also?

Well then World War 3 will come because Iran attacks carriers traversing the straits of Hormuz.

Surely if the US can't win over Iran in a naval contest they have no capability to call themselves the only true global naval power.

Iran can be as powerful as it wants without breaking its obligations and endangering the global economy, but once it does such it becomes our problem, and we are forced to respond for the sake of preserving the authority of global agreements, along with our own core interests of preserving freedom of maritime movement for all our ships. If we did not do such they would have no meaning.

I do appreciate your courage but the things aren’t like a Tom Cruise’s Hollywood movie when he jumps from sky and back with smiling. You first gotto prove whether US is still financial capable enough for a WW3 type thing. You first have to deal with Iran and prove you can still stand on your feet after that and then talk about any WW3. Mr Obama is still struggling with getting full $1.2tn debt passed from congress, US just can’t afford a new over $1.0tn budget for a new war with Iran. A new war with Iran which US can’t win, but they would definitely lose in Afghan if they get caught with something big like Iran also. US is facing so much economic problems and continuous embarrassments in Afghan that even if they lose one AC by Iran, morale of their troops will fall to the level that you will lose all. So be careful for any misadventure. WW3 will be the next round while you are on qualifying round with Iran right now, which isn’t easy for US.

Huh? We've had economic free falls and recessions in recurring cycles many times in our history, and that has never come to pass.

In anycase all I can say Hello_10 is COME BACK TO REALITY.

US carriers will definately cross the straits, Iran will most likely not fire on them, and the tension will continue.

If not then well, the US will be getting its combined navy, airforce, and military beaten back to the stone age while Iran emerges unscathed in glorious victory

You just love sensationalism.

Its not about the type of economic fall US ever had in past, its about that type of economic fall in US, (the country where criterion of getting success in life is no education, with gun/ drugs culture), once US fall into a deep recession, (as they already have over 100% debt to its GDP), it will take a long time for them to back. It would result in bringing back industrial jobs to US from China, very likely. just a good hit is required to US’s economy and that’s it. What I said few days before that if US might not have borrowed debt recently then they might have faced recession while their debt is already over 100% to its GDP. But if they face a recession at 200% of debt to GDP ratio, they won’t simply back so easily. But there is a limit to borrow and pay for the expanses. and US is not borrowing debt but borrowing a ‘time’, a time they are set to face within just next 5-6 years from now as how long you may borrow and pay for the expanses? But in case of any new war, especially with Iran, they will see that time very early.

 

[Hello_10]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/139008-analysis-war-against-iran.html

Please give a copy of this analysis to anon45 also. Consequences are our best friends which help us to make difference between right and wrong/ good and bad, and yes Europeans like you were always sympathize to Americans. I think Anon45 would be thankful to you for this analysis.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Please give a copy of this analysis to anon45 also. Consequences are our best friends which help us to make difference between right and wrong/ good and bad, and yes Europeans like you were always sympathize to Americans. I think Anon45 would be thankful to you for this analysis.

Anon can read anytime he wants, the question is if he wants to, and better yet - if he can look at this subject objectively, considering he is a huge patriot of whatever US is doing.

 

[asad71]

1.Doubtful if USA really wants to attack Iran. USA needs elements in Iran to be used for the Shia-Sunni wedge to be exploited. Sudden disruption in oil supply to Japan and India is another factor needs to be avoided.

2. Could this build-up not be really targeted to Pakistan - Afghanistan? The current Pak-Afghan relations and the amusing internal situation in Pakistan could be seen in context.

 

[SinoChallenger]

The Hindu : News / International : EU likely to delay Iran oil embargo

The USA chickened out. *Buck*buck*buck*buck*buck

 

[asad71]

Now the American Protectorate of Britain has also joined in this force build-up. Pakistan should really worry.

 

[anon45]

The Hindu : News / International : EU likely to delay Iran oil embargo

The USA chickened out. *Buck*buck*buck*buck*buck

EU = US?

anyways enjoy those carriers ^^

 

[anon45]

Anon can read anytime he wants, the question is if he wants to, and better yet - if he can look at this subject objectively, considering he is a huge patriot of whatever US is doing.

Objectively not much can be said. The conventional wisdom is the US is the superpower so any conflict is likely to be one sided.

This could serve as a validation or invalidation of the effectiveness of an 'area denial' strategy based on Anti Ship missiles, land and sea launched, and I don't believe either side wants to test this.

 

[anon45]

Anon can read anytime he wants, the question is if he wants to, and better yet - if he can look at this subject objectively, considering he is a huge patriot of whatever US is doing.

Objectively not much can be said. The conventional wisdom is the US is the superpower so any conflict is likely to be one sided.

This could serve as a validation or invalidation of the effectiveness of an 'area denial' strategy based on Anti Ship missiles, land and sea launched, and I don't believe either side wants to test this.

 

[SinoChallenger]

EU = US?

anyways enjoy those carriers ^^

Iran said, "Our response to the sanctions is we prohibit foreign warships to transit our territory sea in the Strait of Hormuz."

Now the USA can impose no sanctions. China said "no." Turkey said "no." Russia said "no." Now EU says "let's delay."

USA can refuse to trade with everybody though like a little kid refusing to play with others and sitting in a corner by himself.

 

[TruthSeeker]

USA can refuse to trade with everybody though like a little kid refusing to play with others and sitting in a corner by himself.

Yes!!! Let's start with a few PRC companies!!!

 

[SinoChallenger]

Yes!!! Let's start with a few PRC companies!!!

We can live without selling to you but you can't live without our goods keeping your inflation down. What's gonna happen to all the unemployed when you can't buy Chinese goods? Good bye $20 jeans. Hello $100 jeans.

 

[TruthSeeker]

We can live without selling to you but you can't live without our goods keeping your inflation down. What's gonna happen to all the unemployed when you can't buy Chinese goods? Good bye $20 jeans. Hello $100 jeans.

Most ot the Chinese-made crap we buy, we don't need. Bye-bye !!!

 

[SinoChallenger]

Most ot the Chinese-made crap we buy, we don't need. Bye-bye !!!

Maybe you live in a nice neighborhood in Virginia but a lot of people are just scraping by in the states. Inflation on basic consumer items is really going to hurt them. Don't underestimate that in a gun society like America.