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U.S. asks Vietnam to stop helping Russian bomber flights

I take it that you are making a living or making use of an education facility in the US? Now the US, according to you, is bullying and threatening world peace. So by extension, you are making use of the US' immoral action? I'm pretty sure you are not living in isolation: you are most likely making use of the roads, infrastructure, social and political structure of the US. And these structures benefitted from US foreign policy and investments. So you are taking advantage of the US actions that you are criticizing. Isn't that hypocritical?

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How is the US invading Iraq and interfering in Libya, Syria, and Ukraine benefit to American people and live. How is that foreign policy benefiting the people? GIVE ME ONE REASON only! LOL
 
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exactly, should the conflict get out of control, a ground war is very unlikely, but can´t be ruled out. a naval confrontation is a scenario, that our navy needs to be prepared for.

We all feel lucky, because Russian is out of money and return Vietnam the Cam Ranh base.
 
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Russia, Vietnam need no advice in military-technical sphere — ambassador

March 13, 10:49 UTC+3
Russia's Ambassador in Hanoi Konstantin Vnukov made this comment regarding the US demand that the Vietnamese authorities ban Russian armed forces from using a naval base in Cam Ranh Bay
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HANOI, March 13. /TASS/. Russia and Vietnam need no one's instructions or recommendations regarding bilateral military and technical cooperation, Russia's Ambassador in Hanoi Konstantin Vnukov said on Friday.

Russia and Vietnam are independent countries, Vnukov said commenting on the US demand that the Vietnamese authorities ban Russian armed forces from using a naval base in Cam Ranh Bay.

"Our cooperation poses no threat to regional and global peace and stability. We will continue developing mutually beneficial cooperation," the diplomat said.

Russia’s Pacific Fleet used to have its logistics support base on Cam Ranh for 23 years. It used to be the largest Russian naval base abroad. In May 2002, Russia officially returned the facility to Vietnam, which said it would use the base’s potential for the purpose of the country’s socio-economic development.
 
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Uncle Sam has really gone out of portion this time. If Viets offend Russia the country will go to hell in no time...
 
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Vietnam’s Cam Ranh Bay Caught in US-Russia Crossfire
How will Hanoi respond to U.S. pressure to curtail flights of Russian refueling aircraft out of Cam Ranh Bay?

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By Carl Thayer
March 13, 2015

On March 11, veteran Reuters correspondent David Brunnstrom published an exclusive report that Russian Tu-95MS Bear nuclear-capable strategic bombers, conducting assertive reconnaissance patrols in the airspace near U.S. military bases in Guam, had been refueled by Russian Il-78 tanker aircraft staging out of the military airfield at Cam Ranh Bay on Vietnam’s central coast.

U.S. officials noted that Russian bomber flights near Guam were part of a global pattern of renewed assertiveness approved by President Vladimir Putin against the U.S. and NATO allies in response to raising tensions over Russian annexation of Crimea, destabilizing activities in Ukraine, and Western punitive sanctions.

It was also reported that the U.S. Embassy in Hanoi had raised official concerns with Vietnam’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. According to an anonymous State Department official, “We have urged Vietnamese officials to ensure that Russia is not able to use its access to Cam Ranh Bay to conduct activities that could raise tensions in the region.”

At the same time the State Department noted that the U.S. government respected Vietnam’s right to reach agreements with other countries for access to Vietnam’s military bases.

The State Department also revealed that it was aware of a Russian-Vietnam agreement permitting Russia to fly Il-79 refueling aircraft out of Cam Ranh Bay.

Russia’s Defense Ministry confirmed that the airport at Cam Ranh was first used for staging Il-78 tankers for aerial refueling of Tu-95MS bombers in January 2014.

Russia’s actions in staging refueling flights out of Cam Ranh Bay to support air operations by Bear bombers put Vietnam in the awkward position of having to reconcile its declaratory policy toward the major powers with reality.

On the hand, Vietnam’s most recent Defense White Paper, published in 2009, declares that “Vietnam advocates neither joining any military alliances nor giving any other countries permission to have military bases or use its soil to carry out military activities against other countries (emphasis added).” This policy guidance is commonly referred to as the “three nos.”

On the other hand, senior Vietnamese military officials have gone on record as supporting a U.S. military presence in the region as long as it contributes to regional peace.” Deputy Defense Minister Lt. Gen. Nguyen Chi Vinh, stated, for example, ”Vietnam respects the U.S. stand on the region and its interest in the Asia-Pacific region, Southeast Asia specifically. But the respect and welcome is based on the condition that its [the U.S.] presence can maintain peace and stability as well as promote equality in international relations.”

Russian tanker flights out of Cam Ranh Bay would seem to contradict the third no — using Vietnamese soil to conduct “military activities against other countries.” Russian actions also raise the question whether Vietnam will apply the same standards of behavior to Russia as it does toward the United States.

Clearly Russian Bear flights have raised U.S. concerns and, if continued, are likely to lead to increased tension in East Asia. For example, General Vincent Brooks, Commander of the U.S. Army Pacific Command, told Brunnstrom that Russia was acting as “a spoiler to our interests and the interests of others” in the Asia-Pacific region and that the flights were “provocative.”

Igor Korotchenko, Director General of the Russian Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade, responded to news reports of the U.S. diplomatic démarche in these terms:

“The request by the U.S. government is a clear rudeness. An insinuation that Russian aircraft that may refuel at Cam Rahn [sic] Bay are by definition carrying nuclear warheads is a provocative and unfounded statement. Russian bombers on missions in the Asia-Pacific pose no threat.”

Korotchenko counter-charged that:

“Regional instability may be provoked… by America and its allies that are unfolding the Asian segment of missile defense system which only stirs up the external tension and activates the arms race.”

Korotchenko offered his assessment that Vietnam would not respond to the U.S. request. As of this writing, Vietnam has remained silent on this issue.

Vietnam’s dependence on Russia as the main source of military platforms, equipment, and armaments, has now put Hanoi in a difficult spot. Russia has pressed for special access to Cam Ranh Bay ever since it began delivering enhanced Kilo-class submarines to Vietnam. Initially Russia wanted a stop over for its navy after completion of anti-piracy duties in the Gulf of Aden.

Given the precedent set in January last year to permit Russian tankers to stage out Cam Ranh, Russia certainly would be displeased if Vietnam reversed policy and set conditions or denied future access. Russia might react to Vietnamese attempts to curtail its refueling activities by slowing the pace and scope of defense cooperation with Vietnam. Russian hands are tied to a certain extent, however, because it does not have air access agreements of this nature elsewhere in Southeast Asia.

China is likely to be quietly supportive of Russian activities because they share the common objective of challenging the U.S. global leadership role. China would be even more pleased if the Russian tanker issue raised complications in Vietnam’s relations with the United States.

The U.S. demarche comes at an awkward time for Hanoi as it prepares for the first visit by party Secretary General Nguyen Phu Trong to Washington. The current contretemps could sour Trong’s visit, set back U.S. approval for the sale of lethal weapons “on a case by case basis,” and slow the growing momentum in defense cooperation.

Hanoi is invariably cautious and risk adverse in its relations with the major powers. The current issue of Russian tankers staging out of Cam Ranh pits Russia and China on one side and the United States on the other. There is no easy solution for Vietnam.
 
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viets could only see US vs China, Russia vs China, XXX vs China and so on, but not US vs Russia or anyone other than China, their views of the world are very simplified and delusional.

Delusional ? You mean yourself,sir !?

After all of wars and intervention of many power and superpower, we're still re-united our soil, and now become a good developing country.
So of course, we're not simplified and delusional like internet idiot troll who speak it ...
 
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U.S. asks Vietnam to stop helping Russian bomber flights
BY DAVID BRUNNSTROM

WASHINGTON Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:02am EDT

(Reuters) - The United States has asked Vietnam to stop letting Russia use a former U.S. base to refuel nuclear-capable bombers engaged in shows of strength over the Asia-Pacific region, exposing strains in Washington's steadily warming relations with Hanoi.

The request, described to Reuters by a State Department official, comes as U.S. officials say Russian bombers have stepped up flights in a region already rife with tensions between China, U.S.-ally Japan and Southeast Asian nations.

General Vincent Brooks, commander of the U.S. Army in the Pacific, told Reuters the planes had conducted "provocative" flights, including around the U.S. Pacific Ocean territory of Guam, home to a major American air base.

It is the first time that U.S. officials have confirmed the role of Cam Ranh Bay, a natural deep-water harbor, in Russian bomber plane activity that has increased globally.

Brooks said the planes that circled Guam were refueled by Russian tankers flying from the strategic bay, which was transformed by the Americans during the Vietnam War into a massive air and naval base.

Vietnam's willingness to allow Russia to use Cam Ranh Bay reflects Hanoi's complex position in a geopolitical tug-of-war that frequently pits China and Russia on one side and the United States, Japan and much of Southeast Asia on the other.

Washington is keen to secure greater access itself to Cam Ranh Bay as part of its strategic "pivot" to Asia to counter China's growing strength in the region. U.S. ships have visited for repairs in recent years.

Vietnam, in turn, has sought closer U.S. ties as a hedge against what it sees as China's aggression, but remains close to Russia in both defense and energy cooperation.

Cam Ranh Bay is now host to three submarines bought by Vietnam's navy from Russia to counter Chinese expansion in the South China Sea, with two more expected by early next year.

Brooks said in an interview the flights indicated that Vietnam's Cold War-era ally Russia was acting as "a spoiler to our interests and the interests of others."

RAISING TENSIONS

Asked about the Russian flights in the region, the State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Washington respected Hanoi's right to enter agreements with other countries.

But the official added: "We have urged Vietnamese officials to ensure that Russia is not able to use its access to Cam Ranh Bay to conduct activities that could raise tensions in the region."

The Vietnamese government did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the U.S. request.

Brooks declined to say when the flights he referred to took place. He did not say how many had been conducted and how many aircraft were involved. But he confirmed they had occurred since Russia's annexation of Crimea last March, which sparked a broader conflict with Ukraine and a surge in tensions between Russia and the United States.

The head of U.S. air forces in the Pacific said last May that Russia's intervention in Ukraine had been accompanied by a significant increase in Russian air activity in the Asia-Pacific region in a show of strength and to gather intelligence.

Russia's Defense Ministry said on Jan. 4 that Russian Il-78 tanker aircraft had used Cam Ranh Bay in 2014, enabling the refueling of nuclear-capable TU-95 "Bear" strategic bombers, a statement also reported in Vietnam's state-controlled media.

In that time, Russia has conducted increasingly aggressive air and sea patrols close to the borders of the U.S.-led NATO alliance, including by Bear bombers over the English Channel.

Last year, NATO conducted more than 100 intercepts of Russian aircraft, about three times as many as in 2013.

RUSSIAN BOMBER FLIGHTS

Russian bomber patrol flights, a Cold War-era practice, were cut back after the fall of the Soviet Union but President Vladimir Putin revived them in 2007.

Russia said in November it planned to send long-range bombers on patrols over North American waters but the Pentagon played this down at the time as routine training in international airspace.

In its effort to boost ties with Vietnam, the United States has been pouring in aid and assistance in health, education, landmines clearance, scholarships and nuclear energy.

Defense cooperation had been limited by an embargo on lethal arms. But Washington started to ease this in October, enabling humanitarian exercises between both militaries late last year and more are taking place this month.

Last year saw a flurry of high-level U.S. visits to Vietnam that coincided with a maritime territorial row between Hanoi and Beijing. On Friday, the U.S ambassador in Vietnam announced that the Vietnamese Communist Party chief would later this year become the first party leader to visit Washington.

U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam Ted Osius said on Friday it was understandable Hanoi would look to "historic partners" when it came to security, but the United States had "much to offer... to enhance Vietnam's security in the short, medium and long term."

I already said it on here before several times. Vietnam cant be on two boats at the same time. At some crucial point, Vietnam will have to choose one side, and obviously if the VCP is smart enough, they will side with the U.S/west, since they can offer far more to Vietnam than a declining Russia can. Vietnam will have to think deeply on this, since Russia will NEVER support Vietnam in any conflict/issue with China, as they have FAR MORE crucial relationship/interests with the Chinese against the west/U.S than little Vietnam can ever offer. So Vietnam will have to be really dumb to continue relying on Moscow. If Vietnam wants to have any chance in having any upper hand in SCS dispute and maintaining its sovereignty then it will have to side with the U.S and forget about Russia(but still maintain commercial/trade relations with Russia). Vietnam should look at its long term interests, in this regard, it has two main options(though not exclusively):
- Either she tries and sort out a peaceful deal with China and other SCS parties, where the islands/resources in the spratlys islands and SCS can be shared between the negotiating parties, even if it means compromises might be made.
-Or she shouldshed its Russian patron reliance, and ally with the U.S/west, so she can have more weight in dealing with the Chinese/other contestants. Thats the only two options in see for Vietnam.

The only last other option i see, is just for Vietnam to try and maintain the current status quo as much as possible, which means avoiding any reckless beur like firing at other nations fishermen/boats etc who enter its disputed islands waters, which is something China, Taiwan and other stronger parties are waiting for.:)

So vietnam has to avoid making the same mistakes it made during the cold war when it choosed the wrong side, which made it suffer under sanctions/famine/wars for so long, hence the reason Vietnam still lag so much behind it other peers in SEA in living standards/development like Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and even Philippines. Hopefully the current leaders there wont make the same mistakes. Good luck to Vietnam.:)

Vietnam’s Cam Ranh Bay Caught in US-Russia Crossfire
How will Hanoi respond to U.S. pressure to curtail flights of Russian refueling aircraft out of Cam Ranh Bay?

carl-thayer-36x36.jpg

By Carl Thayer
March 13, 2015

On March 11, veteran Reuters correspondent David Brunnstrom published an exclusive report that Russian Tu-95MS Bear nuclear-capable strategic bombers, conducting assertive reconnaissance patrols in the airspace near U.S. military bases in Guam, had been refueled by Russian Il-78 tanker aircraft staging out of the military airfield at Cam Ranh Bay on Vietnam’s central coast.

U.S. officials noted that Russian bomber flights near Guam were part of a global pattern of renewed assertiveness approved by President Vladimir Putin against the U.S. and NATO allies in response to raising tensions over Russian annexation of Crimea, destabilizing activities in Ukraine, and Western punitive sanctions.

It was also reported that the U.S. Embassy in Hanoi had raised official concerns with Vietnam’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. According to an anonymous State Department official, “We have urged Vietnamese officials to ensure that Russia is not able to use its access to Cam Ranh Bay to conduct activities that could raise tensions in the region.”

At the same time the State Department noted that the U.S. government respected Vietnam’s right to reach agreements with other countries for access to Vietnam’s military bases.

The State Department also revealed that it was aware of a Russian-Vietnam agreement permitting Russia to fly Il-79 refueling aircraft out of Cam Ranh Bay.

Russia’s Defense Ministry confirmed that the airport at Cam Ranh was first used for staging Il-78 tankers for aerial refueling of Tu-95MS bombers in January 2014.

Russia’s actions in staging refueling flights out of Cam Ranh Bay to support air operations by Bear bombers put Vietnam in the awkward position of having to reconcile its declaratory policy toward the major powers with reality.

On the hand, Vietnam’s most recent Defense White Paper, published in 2009, declares that “Vietnam advocates neither joining any military alliances nor giving any other countries permission to have military bases or use its soil to carry out military activities against other countries (emphasis added).” This policy guidance is commonly referred to as the “three nos.”

On the other hand, senior Vietnamese military officials have gone on record as supporting a U.S. military presence in the region as long as it contributes to regional peace.” Deputy Defense Minister Lt. Gen. Nguyen Chi Vinh, stated, for example, ”Vietnam respects the U.S. stand on the region and its interest in the Asia-Pacific region, Southeast Asia specifically. But the respect and welcome is based on the condition that its [the U.S.] presence can maintain peace and stability as well as promote equality in international relations.”

Russian tanker flights out of Cam Ranh Bay would seem to contradict the third no — using Vietnamese soil to conduct “military activities against other countries.” Russian actions also raise the question whether Vietnam will apply the same standards of behavior to Russia as it does toward the United States.

Clearly Russian Bear flights have raised U.S. concerns and, if continued, are likely to lead to increased tension in East Asia. For example, General Vincent Brooks, Commander of the U.S. Army Pacific Command, told Brunnstrom that Russia was acting as “a spoiler to our interests and the interests of others” in the Asia-Pacific region and that the flights were “provocative.”

Igor Korotchenko, Director General of the Russian Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade, responded to news reports of the U.S. diplomatic démarche in these terms:

“The request by the U.S. government is a clear rudeness. An insinuation that Russian aircraft that may refuel at Cam Rahn [sic] Bay are by definition carrying nuclear warheads is a provocative and unfounded statement. Russian bombers on missions in the Asia-Pacific pose no threat.”

Korotchenko counter-charged that:

“Regional instability may be provoked… by America and its allies that are unfolding the Asian segment of missile defense system which only stirs up the external tension and activates the arms race.”

Korotchenko offered his assessment that Vietnam would not respond to the U.S. request. As of this writing, Vietnam has remained silent on this issue.

Vietnam’s dependence on Russia as the main source of military platforms, equipment, and armaments, has now put Hanoi in a difficult spot. Russia has pressed for special access to Cam Ranh Bay ever since it began delivering enhanced Kilo-class submarines to Vietnam. Initially Russia wanted a stop over for its navy after completion of anti-piracy duties in the Gulf of Aden.

Given the precedent set in January last year to permit Russian tankers to stage out Cam Ranh, Russia certainly would be displeased if Vietnam reversed policy and set conditions or denied future access. Russia might react to Vietnamese attempts to curtail its refueling activities by slowing the pace and scope of defense cooperation with Vietnam. Russian hands are tied to a certain extent, however, because it does not have air access agreements of this nature elsewhere in Southeast Asia.

China is likely to be quietly supportive of Russian activities because they share the common objective of challenging the U.S. global leadership role. China would be even more pleased if the Russian tanker issue raised complications in Vietnam’s relations with the United States.

The U.S. demarche comes at an awkward time for Hanoi as it prepares for the first visit by party Secretary General Nguyen Phu Trong to Washington. The current contretemps could sour Trong’s visit, set back U.S. approval for the sale of lethal weapons “on a case by case basis,” and slow the growing momentum in defense cooperation.

Hanoi is invariably cautious and risk adverse in its relations with the major powers. The current issue of Russian tankers staging out of Cam Ranh pits Russia and China on one side and the United States on the other. There is no easy solution for Vietnam.

I agree with the comment completely. What about you @BoQ77 , what do you think? Vietnam should side with the U.S or Russia?:) I know its a tough choice for you, but you have to choose at some point to be honest.:)

Uncle Sam has really gone out of portion this time. If Viets offend Russia the country will go to hell in no time...
lool How will Vietnam go to hell?? :cheesy: Last time i checked, its not Russia who created Vietnam.lool

no love, but bottemless hatred on vietnam.

you know vietnam and china are like a divorced couple. we had wonderful times together. like any couple we endure highs and lows. but if both have more differences and common ground, it is time to separate. vietnam is like a girl, that seeks the divorce, while china is like an angry man, that rejects to accept the new reality. though, the man finds a new relationship (a beautiful girl in pakistan), he hates his ex-wife and finds all possible ways to make the new life of his ex-viet wife as difficult as possible.

china is like a man, that dreams of the past and refuses to move on.


bro, forget submekong empire... today is 2015, not 1715.

we will keep our good relatinship to russia. the russians can continue to provide us with weapons and other things, but vladimir putin is not capable to give us what we need: security and massive economic assistance.

AHAHAHHA......you are actually one of the few Vietnamese member here(with Carlosa to some extent) who often make alot of insightful/valuable contributions. I agree with your post.:)
 
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I already said it on here before several times. Vietnam cant be on two boats at the same time. At some crucial point, Vietnam will have to choose one side, and obviously if the VCP is smart enough, they will side with the U.S/west, since they can offer far more to Vietnam than a declining Russia can. Vietnam will have to think deeply on this, since Russia will NEVER support Vietnam in any conflict/issue with China, as they have FAR MORE crucial relationship/interests with the Chinese against the west/U.S than little Vietnam can ever offer. So Vietnam will have to be really dumb to continue relying on Moscow. If Vietnam wants to have any chance in having any upper hand in SCS dispute and maintaining its sovereignty then it will have to side with the U.S and forget about Russia(but still maintain commercial/trade relations with Russia). Vietnam should look at its long term interests, in this regard, it has two main options(though not exclusively):
- Either she tries and sort out a peaceful deal with China and other SCS parties, where the islands/resources in the spratlys islands and SCS can be shared between the negotiating parties, even if it means compromises might be made.
-Or she shouldshed its Russian patron reliance, and ally with the U.S/west, so she can have more weight in dealing with the Chinese/other contestants. Thats the only two options in see for Vietnam.

The only last other option i see, is just for Vietnam to try and maintain the current status quo as much as possible, which means avoiding any reckless beur like firing at other nations fishermen/boats etc who enter its disputed islands waters, which is something China, Taiwan and other stronger parties are waiting for.:)

So vietnam has to avoid making the same mistakes it made during the cold war when it choosed the wrong side, which made it suffer under sanctions/famine/wars for so long, hence the reason Vietnam still lag so much behind it other peers in SEA in living standards/development like Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and even Philippines. Hopefully the current leaders there wont make the same mistakes. Good luck to Vietnam.:)



I agree with the comment completely. What about you @BoQ77 , what do you think? Vietnam should side with the U.S or Russia?:) I know its a tough choice for you, but you have to choose at some point to be honest.:)


lool How will Vietnam go to hell?? :cheesy: Last time i checked, its not Russia who created Vietnam.lool

Vietnam is sliding to west, slowly, it is clear. The first step is to join in Asean.

In the reasonable time, VCP could be released, like Hồ Chí Minh did in 1945 and restableshed former Vietnam Democratic Party and Vietnam Socialist Party of Ho Chi Minh. So VCP does not lose his power in Vietnam.:woot:
 
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lol, so you are saying, US will lose TW-JP-SK-SING-AU when US don't try to court Vietnam?? lol...I felt down the chair actually after reading your post.

seriously, are you @Superboy with an Vietnamese twist??

Cause you sounded and thought like him.

ahahahhaah......i agree. My good friend Nice guy is the Chinese version of Superboy, Chinese tiger is also one, though at least he often makes sense/useful comments, but he's also to ultra nationalisticto the point of blindness, but he does makes sense sometimes,Ind4ever and Atawolf are also another Turkish/Indian version of superboy.lool to each his own on here.....ahahahahah.

What i have noticed is that all of the above seem to think their country is on top of the world.lool:lol:
 
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On topic, what American asked and may failed is stop everything relate Russian.
For example, Mistral carrier contract, I'm not sure they're successful or not.

They can't stop Russian to patrol South China Sea and Pacific, while they have been deploying everything there. At this time Vietnamese only permit both Russian and American get supplements from their bases; if American stop Russian tankers to land in Vietnam, logically they also limit their chance to get same support from Vietnam.
They could agree that, because they have Subic, Singapore, Guam, Kadena ... in the region, while Russian has no other choice.
But, actually, they expect more, preferential policy to them from Vietnam.

American think : Vietnam would Yes to American and No to Russian
Vietnam think: Yes to American and Yes to Russian ; or No to Russian and No to American
Russian think : Vietnam would lean to Yes to American, so they want another Yes to them.
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Conclusion: at last this movement is stop the plan of Russia to recreate the base in Cam Ranh
 
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Viet : always blame BoQ and still want to be Number 1 in Southeast Asia, compete with Indonesia, Thailand... he's wrong because he want to avoid attack by Chinese but attack Southeast Asian partners.
:laugh: Yeah i confirmed this, he almost always showed in any Indonesian-related news with a bit envious tone :shout:
But dont worry since Indonesian poster here didn't take too serious about it.
 
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A very interesting and lucid statement from the US ambassador. Sounds like the US has now openly invited VietNam into its camp. The US has never been this direct before. Their previous official statements had always been along the line "we're just building our friendship, we're not forging a military alliance against anyone, etc."

The timing seems apt, especially when Russia is now struggling. It's like the US is saying, see what happen when Russia messes with the West? see how weak Russia is? We have more to offer. So who are you going to choose VietNam?

What is your opinion on this @BoQ77?

My personal opinion is this. Russia is using Vietnam, USA is using Vietnam. Vietnam simply can say "We are neutral."

It is not Vietnam's battle between Russia and USA. Vietnam doesn't care if Russia take over Crimea. Vietnam doesn't care if USA has a problem with Russia. But USA has a problem with Vietnam. Do you see Russia having problem with Vietnam when USA is there? no. So remain Neutral is your best option.
 
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@jhungary : Chinese origin but turn to banana. Hahaha. I love you, anyway.
BoQ : always keen for truths , accept the ugly truths. I'm not so picky, ready to Thanks to any logical post, no matter what nationality posted.
Viet : always blame BoQ and still want to be Number 1 in Southeast Asia, compete with Indonesia, Thailand... he's wrong because he want to avoid attack by Chinese but attack Southeast Asian partners. @madokafc can you confirm my comment?
@Soryu ; @Rechoice : always support BoQ : Thank you two so much

You forgot to mention Black Flag: Kind, good-hearted, friendly and peaceful. A representative of Viet Nam.

On topic:

This also has another implication: If Russia is now accusing the US of interferring with VietNam's internal affair, then in the future, if VietNam allows the US to use Cam Ranh's facility, then Russia cannot say anything otherwise they will also be "interferring in VN internal affairs."
 
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