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Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

OguzSenturk said:
Only enemy left for Damascus is YPG/PKK. We don't have to cooperate against YPG/PKK because when we roll in from north, Damascus will not sat back and watch, they will also roll in from south into YPG/PKK territory.

So there will be natural, un-planned cooperation on the ground anyway.
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so speak with them and open your embassies then you can cooperate to solve common problems and threats.
I know you have many products and goods to sell to Damascus and before 2011 you earn a lot from their markets.
You have many similarities with them both countries are secular with big number of Sunni and Alevi Muslims, absolutely you can find common ground to work.
 
While i agree on the idea of cooperating with Assad against PKK scum; we will not leave buffer-zones we created. This eliminates any possible cooperation, because if Assad swallows this he will lose huge prestige in both domestic & international areas. He won't do that. He also will not fight against Hezbollah terrorists too. The only positive thing with Assad is, Russian collar will be tighter on Assad's neck due to economic-military dependence, which makes Assad more predictable and less unstable.

Unfortunately, there are some ground should be fixed before any large scale cooperation;

> Assad has to recognise that he is uncapable leader, he failed to defend his territorial integrity and lost territores to Terrorists who attacked Turkey.
> Assad has to recognise the legitimacy of our buffer-zones to secure our own borderline.
> Assad has to kick Hezbollah out of Syria.

I don't think these are happening anytime soon.
 
Assad has no authority over Hezbollah, and Russia does not care about Hezbollah. So Hezbollah will stay in Syria.
 
OguzSenturk said:
Assad has no authority over Hezbollah, and Russia does not care about Hezbollah. So Hezbollah will stay in Syria.
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How many Hezbollah would there be in Syria now still, probably more Iraqi Shia militiamen from Harakat al-Nujaba group in Syria than Lebanese Hezbollah. They're mostly around Aleppo nowadays. They don't take orders from Assad though indeed, they would only take them from Tehran or Baghdad, for Lebanese Hezbollahi it would only be Iran and Nasrallah party group.
 
OutOfAmmo said:
How many Hezbollah would there be in Syria now still, probably more Iraqi Shia militiamen from Harakat al-Nujaba group in Syria than Lebanese Hezbollah. They're mostly around Aleppo nowadays. They don't take orders from Assad though indeed, they would only take them from Tehran or Baghdad, for Lebanese Hezbollahi it would only be Iran and Nasrallah party group.
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Lebanese Hezbollah is indeed small in Numbers... But it's Hezbollah lieutenant that are ruling upon other Shia Jihadi groups... Like what we saw in early times When Iran gave the leadership to Hezb upon her new "Jihadi recruits" from Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan etc...

It's like Saying AQ in Syria was only Al Nusra Front...and therefore if they are no more, then AQ is out...
 
Latest news from Idlib...
The Demilitarization zone is not 20ish km BTW both sides... it's only Inside Rebels Areas...
Meaning making Idlib almost 60+% Demilitarized... And Idlib City the only city/area left who is militarized aka "HTS stronghold"...

The Q now is How many soldiers/Equipements TR is willing to send in that 25Km zone all around 275+km Idlib pocket...
And What will happen to those FSA soldiers in those "newly" made demilitarized zone...Since according to "Previous" Deal, Whoever in Demilitarized zone shall put down weapons...

Armed HTS vs Unarmed FSA... That quite strange...

New Demilitarized Zone make of 70-80% of FSA Territories... and HTS and related make of 20-25% of their territory...

Ps: Few Factions are reconsidering the TR-RU deal after this "newly" made Demilitarization area...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1046027175479189504

Ps2: Withdrawal of "radical" factions from Demilitarized zone will result in boosting Idlib city area of Men and Equipements.

http://nedaa-sy.com/reports/183

Aka Turkey is moving out Terrorist groups out of Syria
And
Aka Get prepared, Because Deals are just words...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1045806872039690240
 
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OguzSenturk said:
While i agree on the idea of cooperating with Assad against PKK scum; we will not leave buffer-zones we created. This eliminates any possible cooperation, because if Assad swallows this he will lose huge prestige in both domestic & international areas. He won't do that. He also will not fight against Hezbollah terrorists too. The only positive thing with Assad is, Russian collar will be tighter on Assad's neck due to economic-military dependence, which makes Assad more predictable and less unstable.

Unfortunately, there are some ground should be fixed before any large scale cooperation;

> Assad has to recognise that he is uncapable leader, he failed to defend his territorial integrity and lost territores to Terrorists who attacked Turkey.
> Assad has to recognise the legitimacy of our buffer-zones to secure our own borderline.
> Assad has to kick Hezbollah out of Syria.

I don't think these are happening anytime soon.
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:-)
I smile.
You forgot that you are not in position to put condition on Syrians to dialogue.
Syrian government will back every inch of its soil.
SO SIMPLE

Your time is ending to clean Idlib from Terrorists.
Do what you promise to do before become too late.
 
HannibalBarca said:
Latest news from Idlib...
The Demilitarization zone is not 20ish km BTW both sides... it's only Inside Rebels Areas...
Meaning making Idlib almost 60+% Demilitarized... And Idlib City the only city/area left who is militarized aka "HTS stronghold"...

The Q now is How many soldiers/Equipements TR is willing to send in that 25Km zone all around 275+km Idlib pocket...
And What will happen to those FSA soldiers in those "newly" made demilitarized zone...Since according to "Previous" Deal, Whoever in Demilitarized zone shall put down weapons...

Armed HTS vs Unarmed FSA... That quite strange...

New Demilitarized Zone make of 70-80% of FSA Territories... and HTS and related make of 20-25% of their territory...

Ps: Few Factions are reconsidering the TR-RU deal after this "newly" made Demilitarization area...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1046027175479189504


Ps2: Withdrawal of "radical" factions from Demilitarized zone will result in boosting Idlib city area of Men and Equipements.

http://nedaa-sy.com/reports/183

Aka Turkey is moving out Terrorist groups out of Syria
And
Aka Get prepared, Because Deals are just words...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1045806872039690240
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Let's hope they will come to their senses:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1046323169433399296
 
HannibalBarca said:
Lebanese Hezbollah is indeed small in Numbers... But it's Hezbollah lieutenant that are ruling upon other Shia Jihadi groups... Like what we saw in early times When Iran gave the leadership to Hezb upon her new "Jihadi recruits" from Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan etc...

It's like Saying AQ in Syria was only Al Nusra Front...and therefore if they are no more, then AQ is out...
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Lebanese Hezbollah doesn't rule the Iraqi Hezbollah units in Syria there's separate command. The Afghan recruits however are indeed ruled by Lebanese and others as they have not got their own command like Lebanon and Iraq's Hezbollah type of groups.

In Syria all these Shia militia groups are ultimately under IRGC command
 
OutOfAmmo said:
Lebanese Hezbollah doesn't rule the Iraqi Hezbollah units in Syria there's separate command. The Afghan recruits however are indeed ruled by Lebanese and others as they have not got their own command like Lebanon and Iraq's Hezbollah type of groups.

In Syria all these Shia militia groups are ultimately under IRGC command
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Iraqi Hezb are a minority, Many Iraqi shia Jihadist joined the Lebanese branch in the early days.
And yes IRGC is the true ruler upon them all.
 

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