Turkish Navy to be in strongest position with major Projects

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Dude,just stop smoking whatever you're smoking.

another silly post
I am not smoking anything
maybe You and Goming-21 are smoking whatever ...
same lunatic troll team retaxis , Iblini ,Goming-21 , Foinikas and other false flager accounts who hate president Erdogan and Turks

when push comes to shove, erdogan and turkey runs away and backs down from sisi in libya and assad. aint no way Turkey can win a war against Greece, Israel, Saudi, Iran or Egypt at the moment. All bluster from a dictator who ruined turkeys economy.

Foinikas and his troll friends again destroyed my thread ...

 

[Foinikas]

another silly post
I am not smoking anything
maybe You and Goming-21 are smoking whatever ...
same lunatic troll team retaxis , Iblini ,Goming-21 , Foinikas and other false flager accounts who hate president Erdogan and Turks

you again destroyed my thread ...

You destroyed your thread the moment you started mocking and arrogantly insulting others,who don't think that the Turkish Navy is the strongest one in the Eastern Mediterranean. You have to stop blaming others all the time and understand what you're doing wrong.

 

[Akritas]

250 Turkish UCAVs = 1.000-1500 missiles

Apart from the fact that your numbers are for fun, you are making a methodological mistake as always. You analyze only the Turkish side's capabilities as a whole, as if there were zero Greek capabilities. If you analyze the Greek capabilities as well, you will see that things are spectacularly more difficult for the Turkish Surface Fleet due to its completely inadequate AA field protection.
The same is happening in the Air Force, where the Greek air power, only with the newly acquired Rafales and Vipers, multiply the firepower.

Mass action by the Turkish Navy and Air Force in the Aegean is not expected, because it would be pure suicide. Even in the Eastern Mediterranean it would be too dangerous for them. Therefore, the overall additions of weapons you make give a completely wrong picture if the Turkish Fleet is locked in its ports and the Sea of Marmara or if it is at the bottom of the sea before it can deploy and operate in the Aegean.

The geographical advantage given by the Greek islands and the expected air and naval supremacy for the coming years of the Greek forces cannot be overcome by the Turks even if Nelson was the admiral of the Turkish Fleet

 

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You destroyed your thread the moment you started mocking and arrogantly insulting others,who don't think that the Turkish Navy is the strongest one in the Eastern Mediterranean. You have to stop blaming others all the time and understand what you're doing wrong.

You and Your friend Goming-21 have started trolling ,personal attack and insulting

read again your posts sneaky provocateur


Goming-21 calling Turkish weapons as plastic and plywood paper
Its trolling ..nothing else

Nothing but a bunch of PATHETIC daydreaming plywood paper mâché makeup for dreamers like you.

That looks like some pretty serious plastic.

You have a huge bug up your rectum about ERDOGAN , Turkiye and Turks
Your post has proved it ... I never said anything bad for Egyptian People

I called Erdogan the Er-DOG-AN, as a mangy stray dog in the streets go ahead

filthy DOG Erdogan the two masked individual coward.

THOSE BARBARICMONGOLION ORIGIN TORKD DICTATEANYTHING SAMLAL.

Your silly posts for trolling to provoke me

 

[Akritas]

but Turkish TCG PIRIREIS U-214 from 2022

You're talking about a submarine that was designed in 2008-11, based to German U-214, construction began in 2015, and here we are....2023, and it's still being tested.

 

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The same is happening in the Air Force, where the Greek air power, only with the newly acquired Rafales and Vipers, multiply the firepower.

Turkish Air Force will not sleep and to block Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean against Hellenic Air Force

235 F-16s , 4 Boing E-7T AEWC , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also 16 Frigates armed with 576 SAMs ..
also land based TRLG-230 , ATMACA missiles in anti-ship role

250 Turkish UCAVs will be under protection of the Turkish Armed Forces , while Greek mainland is 600-800 km away from Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[Foinikas]

Apart from the fact that your numbers are for fun, you are making a methodological mistake as always. You analyze only the Turkish side's capabilities as a whole, as if there were zero Greek capabilities. If you analyze the Greek capabilities as well, you will see that things are spectacularly more difficult for the Turkish Surface Fleet due to its completely inadequate AA field protection.
The same is happening in the Air Force, where the Greek air power, only with the newly acquired Rafales and Vipers, multiply the firepower.

Mass action by the Turkish Navy and Air Force in the Aegean is not expected, because it would be pure suicide. Even in the Eastern Mediterranean it would be too dangerous for them. Therefore, the overall additions of weapons you make give a completely wrong picture if the Turkish Fleet is locked in its ports and the Sea of Marmara or if it is at the bottom of the sea before it can deploy and operate in the Aegean.

The geographical advantage given by the Greek islands and the expected air and naval supremacy for the coming years of the Greek forces cannot be overcome by the Turks even if Nelson was the admiral of the Turkish Fleet

Great post.

He always assumes that ALL Turkish missiles will find their target and none of the enemy missiles will manage to hit anything Turkish. Either it is a ship,an aircraft,a base etc. He always talks as if all Turkish weapons will hit the enemy,but ignores all counter-measures and weapons of the enemy. I've told him that many times in the past. Of course,he always ignored it.

If someone comes on the forum and reads his threads and posts,he will have a picture of a Turkey that is a superpower. A Turkey that cannot be defeated,that has the best weapons and systems,the best public works,the best leaders,technology that is far ahead.

The numbers,the assumptions he makes,the half-finished projects he keeps talking about all the time,it's like a conman trying to present others with a completely different picture. You know,like in the Communist countries,when they were showing all the fake statistics and slightly exaggerated numbers,all the multitude of weapons etc.

235 F-16s , 4 Boing E-7T AEWC , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also 16 Frigates armed with 576 SAMs ..
also land based TRLG-230 , ATMACA missiles in anti-ship role

250 Turkish UCAVs will be under protection of the Turkish Armed Forces , while Greek mainland is 600-800 km away from Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

See that? He's like a broken record,he keeps repeating the same things. We've debated that stuff so many times,even on this thread and he still repeats the same numbers and the same weapons and equipment. Like a parrot.

I mean has anyone ever told him that ATMACA might not be the superweapon he thinks it is? Or that theyy might not have so many AA missiles to equip all of the ships? Or that Siper isn't even in service?

Does he not recognize that his Air Force has had problems ever since Erdogan sacked most of the pilots and officers? And that ever since the sanctions,they got no spare parts for the F-16s and Phantoms?!

 

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Mass action by the Turkish Navy and Air Force in the Aegean is not expected, because it would be pure suicide. Even in the Eastern Mediterranean it would be too dangerous for them. Therefore, the overall additions of weapons you make give a completely wrong picture if the Turkish Fleet is locked in its ports and the Sea of Marmara or if it is at the bottom of the sea before it can deploy and operate in the Aegean.

You worry about destroyed air bases in Skyros , Athens , Larissa
and You worry about how to defend Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

You can not lock the Sea of Marmara ... not even close


in the Aegean , all Greek Navy fleet in range of land-air based missiles and kamikaze Drones TRLG-230 , ATMACA , SOM , HARM , SLAM-ER , TOLUN-IIR , SIMSEK , KARGI

even no need the Turkish Navy



I am talking about Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean
and Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone

 

[Akritas]

Turkish Air Force will not sleep and to block Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean against Hellenic Air Force

235 F-16s , 4 Boing E-7T AEWC , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also 16 Frigates armed with 576 SAMs ..
also land based TRLG-230 , ATMACA missiles in anti-ship role

250 Turkish UCAVs will be under protection of the Turkish Armed Forces , while Greek mainland is 600-800 km away from Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

It's like you haven't read anything I've written. It's okay, other people are reading them.
Now, I also add the following......

The kind of saturation that you are talking about requires a great deal of coordination of detection sensors and means of attack, coordination that only the US, a country with incomparably greater detection, intelligence and media capabilities than Turkey, has demonstrated in real warfare.

Furthermore, to saturate the air defenses of a moving target(land and sea), you must first accurately locate it, and you must locate it before you can be detected yourself.
So you have to survive first.
And therein lies the significance of the sensor weapons and long-range weapons choices have made recently (Rafale, Viper, FDI). The Greek forces will have the superiority of sensors (RBE-2, APG-83, Seafire) and weapons (Meteor, Aster 30, Exocet Block 3C) and the ability to "look first shoot first".
Therefore, Turkish sensor and weapons platforms will first need to be survivable before they can coordinate saturation strikes against Greek forces.

All of the above is proven by the following: if Turkey was so strong, and Greece so weak, your authoritarian government, with the reckless Erdoğan, would have already attacked Greece, as did it in Cyprus at 1974, in Syria and Iraq at 2015

 

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The geographical advantage given by the Greek islands and the expected air and naval supremacy for the coming years of the Greek forces cannot be overcome by the Turks even if Nelson was the admiral of the Turkish Fleet

Maybe only in your dreams

read and learn about your Greece is nothing in front of Turkiye

-- Greece has no strategic dept for self defence
-- All Air bases , naval bases in the range of Turkish missiles
-- Hellenic Navy easy target for land based TRLG-230 ,ATMACA Missiles in the Aegean
-- Hellenic Navy easy target for SIMSEK , KARGI kamikaze Drones in the Aegean
-- Hellenic Navy easy target for air based SOM , TRLG-230 , SLAM-ER , TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-TJ , HARM

-- Dozens of unmanned Combat Vessels and Submarines to attack Hellenic Navy as Sharks in the Aegean

-- Hellenic Air Force can not cross 25th meridian in the Aegean
Thanks to 235 F-16s , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems

-- Greece never can defend Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

and In the Eastern Mediterranean Greece has zero chance

 

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It's like you haven't read anything I've written. It's okay, other people are reading them.
Now, I also add the following......

I read your post .. full of fantasy


read again my post and learn your place


Turkish Air Force will not sleep and to block Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean against Hellenic Air Force

235 F-16s , 4 Boing E-7T AEWC , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also 16 Frigates armed with 576 SAMs ..
also land based TRLG-230 , ATMACA missiles in anti-ship role

250 Turkish UCAVs will be under protection of the Turkish Armed Forces , while Greek mainland is 600-800 km away from Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

The kind of saturation that you are talking about requires a great deal of coordination of detection sensors and means of attack, coordination that only the US, a country with incomparably greater detection, intelligence and media capabilities than Turkey, has demonstrated in real warfare.

Turkiye has everything .. if you know nothing worldwide military its your problem


-- All Greek Air and Naval Bases are clear ... Thanks to Turkish military Satellites

-- There are hundreds of thousands of Turks in Greece for enough intelligence

-- Turkiye has GESKOM which is only a few countries in the world
Turkey's highest capacity intelligence and SIGINT listening base
We hear even when Greek Fighter Jets take off from their bases

-- 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar sees everything in the Aegean

-- 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km Radar sees everything even in Athens

-- 1.000 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone itself find and destroy enemy Radars - AD Systems

-- Turkish UCAVs sees everything in Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

and CATS E/O System can keep laser designator on Greek military targets from 30 km away and TRLG-230 laser guided MLRS hit the target from 70 km away in Islands

only Turkiye in NATO
American HIMARS can not hit moving targets

 

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And therein lies the significance of the sensor weapons and long-range weapons choices have made recently (Rafale, Viper, FDI). The Greek forces will have the superiority of sensors (RBE-2, APG-83, Seafire) and weapons (Meteor, Aster 30, Exocet Block 3C) and the ability to "look first shoot first".

Turkish long range Ballistic and Cruise Missiles can hit your Rafales even in jet hangars at Tanagra Air Base

Thanks to BORA , TAYFUN , KARA-ATMACA , SOM missiles


and Turkiye has superior Radars ... "look first shoot first"

-- 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar sees everything in the Aegean
-- 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km Radar sees everything even in Athens
-- 600 km BIG BIRD Radar

Thanks to network centric warfare for cooperative engagement capability for superior missiles

-- 380 km 40N6E air defense missile with speed of mach 3,5
-- 250 km 48N6E3 air defense missile with speed of mach 5,9

-- 100-150 km SIPER air defense missile
-- 120 km AIM-120C7 Air to Air Missile

-- 280 km SOM anti-ship Missile
-- 250 km ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- 150 km TRLG-230 supersonic Missile

also stealth KIZILELMA unmanned Fighter Jet is coming armed with 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to hunt old Rafale and F-16V in BVR combat

Hellenic Air Force can not cross 25th meridian in the Aegean

 

[Foinikas]

-- Greece never can defend Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

So the islands are not a threat to Turkey,so your government is lying,so there's no point to use dumb excuses to attack us.

Ok moving on.

 

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. He always talks as if all Turkish weapons will hit the enemy,but ignores all counter-measures and weapons of the enemy. I've told him that many times in the past. Of course,he always ignored it.

If someone comes on the forum and reads his threads and posts,he will have a picture of a Turkey that is a superpower. A Turkey that cannot be defeated,that has the best weapons and systems,the best public works,the best leaders,technology that is far ahead.

Dont compare your Greece which produce nothing with Turkiye which produce everything


Turkiye has the 2nd strongest fire power in NATO after USA

Greeks still living in 1996 .. wake up , this is 2022
in 1996 Turkiye had nothing ... today Turkiye has great defense industry


Greece doesnt have enough AD missiles to defend itself
I am telling true to you. but you have big hatred towards Turkiye , therefore you are trying to fool people for defaming the real power of Turkiye


Turkiye produce 495 SOM Cruise Missiles
Also 50 SLAM-ER , 97 POPEYE , 100 JSOW , 95 HARM already in service


Turkiye produce hundreds of 60 km ALPAGUT , 80 km DELI , 200 km SIMSEK and 1.000 km KARGI kamikaze Drones .. so cheap and lethal

Turkiye produce hundreds of long range guided Bombs KGK , SDB and TOLUN-IIR

Also 150 km CAKIR and 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ Missiles on the way

Turkiye has developed KARA-ATMACA ground based Cruise Missile to hit every point in Greece


Turkiye has its own TRG-122 , TRLG-122 , TRG-230 , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles and guided MLRS to hit every point in Greece and Greek Islands

also 250 Turkish UCAVs can carry 1.000 - 1.500 of MAM-L , MAM-T , HGK-82 , UMTAS


even I am not talking about upcoming future missiles
CENK Ballistic Missile ,
GEZGIN long range strategic cruise Missile
AKBABA anti-radiation Missile
RAMJET powered supersonic cruise Missile


Turkiye can fire cheap SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone and Greece can fire expencive PATRIOT and S300 air defense missiles

Turkiye can keep producing missiles , guided bombs and kamikaze drones
but Greece can not produce PATRIOT and S300 air defense missiles
and Greece has limited AD Missiles


I want to inform all of you and to discuss as friendly
but you are trying to deflect the facts and trolling

 

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So the islands are not a threat to Turkey,so your government is lying,so there's no point to use dumb excuses to attack us.

Ok moving on.

Dont worry
We will come suddenly one night as like 1974

between 1964-1974 , Greeks always said hey Turks if you so brave come and take

in 1974 Turks said we are brave , we came and took

today Turkiye 100 times stronger than 1974


dont provoke Turkiye and dont test our strength
then it will be too late to cry another 50 years for losing Islands as like Cyprus