Turkish Navy to be in strongest position with major Projects

[Akritas]

Both Germany and UK offered the Islands to Turkey for to join the war on their side, but the government of that time refused. Turkey even send SS Kurtuluş ship to Greece for five time to bring aid and we never try to take advange from Greece at its civil war times.. Problems only start when Greeks start Enosis bs in Cyprus

What Turkey was asking for, what Britain and Germany were giving it, are all analyzed (with facts and sources) in the following book.

 

[Trisolaran]

What Turkey was asking for, what Britain and Germany were giving it, are all analyzed (with facts and sources) in the following book.

Turkey and Greece were allies against Italy as members of the Balkan pact before the second world war.
It was a fact that if the Germans won in Stalingrad, we would fight on the side of the Germans, but the target here would be the Turkic lands in Soviets at that time, there was no high government official who wanted to occupy the Greek lands in any way, only the Germans and the British offered it as a gift to lure us to join their side.
If there was any desire to invade islands, we could easily do this when germans was weak in 1944 or when Greece was in civil war.

 

[Foinikas]

Problems only start when Greeks start Enosis bs in Cyprus

Cyprus...was problematic from the beginning. The British had offered Cyprus to us if we joined WWI,eventually we joined in June 1917 and after the war the British decided to keep the island. They generally slightly favored the Turks,probably because the Greeks wanted independence and/or Enosis.

Later,the Turkish side wanted more priviliges,the two communities were at at various times and places hostile to each other,fights here,mobs there,then the junta of Ioannides in 1974 had Samson installed...

Makarios wanted Cyprus to be closer to the socialist countries of the Middle-East and the non-aligned,instead of NATO...
So Cypriot-Greeks who were with Samson and wanted to unite with Greece fought against the ones who supported Makarios,
the Cypriot-Turks wanted partition,in the chaos of the EOKA B coup and Greek-Cypriot infighting,Attila I and II were launched and we are were we are now.

The problem is,that people like MMM-E follow the AKP government line,that ignores Turkey's recognition and approval of Greece's right to have garrisons on the islands,back in the '30s and maybe 40s too. And then Bahceli wants the Dodecanese back. They have selective memory. They only remember the Treaties that suit them and ignore the following ones,that replaced them.

 

[Trisolaran]

Cyprus...was problematic from the beginning. The British had offered Cyprus to us if we joined WWI,eventually we joined in June 1917 and after the war the British decided to keep the island. They generally slightly favored the Turks,probably because the Greeks wanted independence and/or Enosis.

Later,the Turkish side wanted more priviliges,the two communities were at at various times and places hostile to each other,fights here,mobs there,then the junta of Ioannides in 1974 had Samson installed...

Makarios wanted Cyprus to be closer to the socialist countries of the Middle-East and the non-aligned,instead of NATO...
So Cypriot-Greeks who were with Samson and wanted to unite with Greece fought against the ones who supported Makarios,
the Cypriot-Turks wanted partition,in the chaos of the EOKA B coup and Greek-Cypriot infighting,Attila I and II were launched and we are were we are now.

The problem is,that people like MMM-E follow the AKP government line,that ignores Turkey's recognition and approval of Greece's right to have garrisons on the islands,back in the '30s and maybe 40s too. And then Bahceli wants the Dodecanese back. They have selective memory. They only remember the Treaties that suit them and ignore the following ones,that replaced them.

Whatever have happened in the past is gone but the core of the Greek-Turkish conflict from the 1950s to the present time is in Cyprus.
the Annan plan was the last hope for the unification of the island while the Erdogan government was pro-EU..
If the Cyprus problem had been solved at that time, we would not have experienced such severe crises in the Aegean and the Eastern Mediterranean sea's now, yes the problems could still exist, but it would have been easier to find a solution.
Thats why 6 mile issue was easily resolved because there was no Cyprus problem, and Turkey and Greece had better relations.. Why am saying all this ? Because Greek Turkish confilict is not about history, religion or culture but lost of trust.

 

[Foinikas]

the Annan plan was the last hope for the unification of the island while the Erdogan government was pro-EU..

The Annan plan had a lot of flaws,problems would have appeared again sooner or later. Besides,Erdogan has been doing everything he shouldn't be doing for Turkey to get in the EU. It's like he keeps shouting "I wanna get in,I wanna get in,I want to get in the club,let me in!",while at the same time he's walking the opposite way. And the Europeans have scolded Turkey as a State numerous times,because under Erdogan,the country rarely does something for the pre-conditions to get in the club.

 

[Trisolaran]

The Annan plan had a lot of flaws,problems would have appeared again sooner or later. Besides,Erdogan has been doing everything he shouldn't be doing for Turkey to get in the EU. It's like he keeps shouting "I wanna get in,I wanna get in,I want to get in the club,let me in!",while at the same time he's walking the opposite way. And the Europeans have scolded Turkey as a State numerous times,because under Erdogan,the country rarely does something for the pre-conditions to get in the club.

Erdogan between 2002 and 2013, introduced liberal reforms that no previous secular government had done.
He started a dialogue with the Armenians, supported the Pro PKK HDP party to enter the parliament and many other social-economic reforms were made, but Erdogan did not know the fact that Turkey would not be able to enter the EU even if we became a country of Norwegian standards. I remember even Greece supported Turkey to enter EU because than Aegan issue would be solved more easily, but Germany and France know very well, Turkey in EU would break their economic influence.. So it was impossible

 

[Danjuma Musa]

Your history talks only discuss the existence and lack of solution to the current issues between Turkey and Greece. What it doesn't explain is the artificially high level of tension. After in-depth research and months of thinking and reasoning, I identified the explanation as Turkey's threat to the petrodollar.

 

[Danjuma Musa]

Hello folks. Back to the topic of whether or not the U.S. is preparing a war between and Greece to neutralize Turkey's threat to its Arab puppets and by extension, the petrodollar system. I'm 100% sure this is what the U.S. is preparing. Greek leaders understand that the U.S. is the only hope for the continuation of Western dominance of the Middle East and Islam. They are willing to use Greece to weaken Turkey and maintain this dominance. They are going to initiate or at least force Turkey into hostilities that will cause massive destruction to both countries. This is their plans to maintain Western hegemony over the Muslim world. They aren't going to let Turkey get stronger before starting this war. All the peace overtures by Sisi, Saudi, U.A.E. towards Turkey is fake. They want to sit on the sidelines when this war begins. They want to avoid any Turkish retaliation that will endanger their regimes. So, they are glad to let America and Greece take the lead while they pretend to not be involved. My recommendations is for Turkey to do the following:
1. Deepen cooperation with Russia and buy more and more S-400 systems
2. Speed up work on indegenous systems with particular emphasis on this coming war
3. Train more Libyan soldiers and arm them to the teeth
4. Do not fire the first shot unless absolutely necessary
5. Strengthen alliances with Azerbaijan, Qatar, and especially Pakistan
6. Do not pull out of Libya