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Turkish Navy to be in strongest position with major Projects

that doesnt matter
most important thing is projects were started and under construction to make maiden flight in 2023

Israel doesnt have technology even to start developing mega military projects


5 years ago Turkiye had nothing ..
but today Turkiye is Drone super power in the world
SUNGUR,KORKUT,HISAR-A,HISAR-O,SIPER Air Defense Systems have been developed
and many more .. but I dont list it again and again




Why all your posts are so silly ?


what about HISAR-O and SIPER ? including GaN based AESA Radar

Nobody gives critical technologies to Turkiye including AD Systems


Thanks to ASELSAN, ROKETSAN, HAVELSAN , TAI , TEI , STM , TUBITAK-SAGE which were established after American arms embargo on Turkiye in 1975
In the words of your own ex-director of the Naval Academy...

Former Naval Academy Commander Türker Ertürk did not like our SİHAs, which the whole world admired and praised: "What have they managed so far? You take everything from outside and combine it here."

 
btw you are also biased towards Turkiye in military and geopolitical matters
Not biased as in not seeing things clearly. I don't underestimate the threat that the Turkish army poses for us. I try to see things in a neutral way and often put myself in the place of the other. That's how you can understand their mindset a bit.

We are not calling Israelis as Zionist here
We are not calling you radical christian crusader here
"Here" where? Turkey or the forum? Because you do in both :P
 
Not biased as in not seeing things clearly. I don't underestimate the threat that the Turkish army poses for us. I try to see things in a neutral way and often put myself in the place of the other. That's how you can understand their mindset a bit.

You , Benny , Goming-21 are biased and trolling here

Greece,Egypt,Israel can not develop even a Corvette
still you are dreaming about to match with Turkiye

Only Turkish unmanned Combat Systems and Missiles are enough for your Navies
250+ UCAVs , Unmanned Combat Vessels , and soon unmanned Combat Submarines

"Here" where? Turkey or the forum? Because you do in both :P


Turks ( Ottoman Empire ) saved hundreds of thousands of Jews from criminal Europe

when Greeks starve to death , Turkiye helped Greece
 
You , Benny , Goming-21 are biased and trolling here
HERE WE GO AGAIN! 🙄

Everyone who criticizes your extreme nationalism and arrogant boasting,just HAS to be a "troll".

Everyone's a troll. Egyptians,French,Israelis,British,Germans,Iranians,Chinese,Pakistanis,Americans.

Nope. We are all "anti-Turkiye propaganda trolls" who "terrorize" your threads by questioning their validity and your AKP narration.

Dozens of people from various countries,ethnicities,religions,political beliefs and cultural backgrounds with no way to communicate privately in here. But sure,we're all "trolls". No other explanation.

Only Turkish unmanned Combat Systems and Missiles are enough for your Navies
250+ UCAVs , Unmanned Combat Vessels , and soon unmanned Combat Submarines
Heeere we go again. The usual "Turkiye has 250+ UCAVs" quote

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when Greeks starve to death , Turkiye helped Greece
When was that?
 
Turks ( Ottoman Empire ) saved hundreds of thousands of Jews from criminal Europe

when Greeks starve to death , Turkiye helped Greece
When Turkey had many dead in an earthquake Israel helped Turkey, then Erdogan came and ruined everything with the Mavi Marmara and called us terrorists and child murderers for years and now he is shaking our hands.
 
The strongest in the area, it is certainly not, when e.g. Greece has the best submarines(U-214), or when Egypt has the best frigates (FREMM) and Israel the most powerful corvettes(Sa'ar 6).
Turkish navy does not have such ships at the present. It is certainly powerful e.g. in electronic warfare, or in the number of landing ships, but in these areas they are behind.


-- tiny weak Israeli Navy without even Frigates
-- old Hellenic Navy Frigates armed with only 16 SAMs
-- Egyptian Navy has 11 Frigates , 8 Submarines and zero ASW Aircraft
pathetic FREMM Frigates without EW System and armed with only 16 SAMs

Greece,Egypt,Israel can not develop even a Corvette




READ and learn what about the Turkish Navy


Turkiye has its own Naval Industry to produce everything

Turkish Navy has everything in total and far strongest in the region


Egypt bought 4 Type-209 class Submarines
Turkish Navy has already 12 Type-209 class Submarines

Its Turkish Type-214 class AIP Submarine enter service ....
( even better than 18 years old Greek Submarines )

TCG PIRI REIS .. 1 of 6 Type-214TN Submarines of the Turkish Navy
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Egyptian Navy has 11 Frigates , Turkish Navy has 16 Frigates

We dont need pathetic FREMM Frigate armed with 16 SAM and 8 anti-ship Missile



1 of 4 modernized MEKO-200 Frigates enter service in 2023

-- Havelsan ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System
-- Aselsan TAKS Fire Control System
-- SMART-S MK-II 3D Radar
-- Aselsan MAR-D 3B AESA Radar
-- Aselsan AKR-D X and Ka-Band fire control Radars
-- Aselsan ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- Aselsan PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging
-- Aselsan KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- Aselsan FERSAH Carina Mounted Sonar System
-- Aselsan HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System

-- 127 mm Gun
-- Aselsan STOP 25mm Gun
-- Aselsan GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
-- 64 ESSM Air Defense Missiles
-- 16 ATMACA Anti ship Missiles
-- 6 Lightweight Torpedoes

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1 of 4 ISTIF class Frigates enter service in 2023

ADVENT Combat Management System
CENK-S AESA Radar
ALPER LPI Surface Radar
AKREP (AKR-D Block B-1/2) Fire Control Radar
ASELSAN Piri IRST
FERSAH Hull Mounted Sonar
SeaEye-AHTAPOT EO Reconnaisance and Survellience System
Aselsan ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
Aselsan HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System
16 cells VLS

-- 1 x 76 mm Gun
-- 16 x ATMACA Anti ship Missiles ( 250 km )
-- 64 x HISAR-D RF Air Defense Missiles
-- 1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
-- 6 x Torpedos
-- 2 x 25 mm Aselsan STOP Machine Gun Platforms

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Egyptian Navy doesnt have any ASW Aircraft ( Plane )
Hellenic Navy has only 5 ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane )

on the other hand , Turkish Navy has 12 ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane )

Turkish Navy has more ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane ) than Egyptian+Hellenic Navies combined
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Turkish Unmanned Vessels to carry Anti-Ship Missiles and Torpedos
Egypt and Greece can only dream about it

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Only Turkish Navy has Electronic Warfare Ship in the region

TCG UFUK in service
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KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is coming to operate from the TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship

to carry 150-280 km CAKIR and SOM-J Cruise Missiles ( land attack - anti ship )
also 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missile
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195m TCG DERYA Sea Supply Combat Support Ship
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250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missiles are enough to wipe out the enemy Warships
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even I am not talking about future projects

still they are dreaming about Egyptian Helenic Navies
Israel doesnt have even real Navy
 
-- tiny weak Israeli Navy without even Frigates
-- old Hellenic Navy Frigates armed with only 16 SAMs
-- Egyptian Navy has 11 Frigates , 8 Submarines and zero ASW Aircraft
pathetic FREMM Frigates without EW System and armed with only 16 SAMs

Greece,Egypt,Israel can not develop even a Corvette
I have a question,since you boast about your knowledge so much and you constantly tell everyone else to go learn more about military and history...where did you get all that supposed knowledge? Do you claim to be some kind of professor? Some ex-military officer? If I remember correctly,you had said or implied something about selling cars in Germany? Or...something like that?

Yeah UFUK is one day an EW ship,then you guys say it's an intelligence collection ship,I read it's also a training ship. I'm starting to think it's just a propaganda ship with little real value.

even I am not talking about future projects

But that's what you do in every post. You keep mentioning long lists of Turkish future projects.
 
-- tiny weak Israeli Navy without even Frigates
-- old Hellenic Navy Frigates armed with only 16 SAMs
-- Egyptian Navy has 11 Frigates , 8 Submarines and zero ASW Aircraft
pathetic FREMM Frigates without EW System and armed with only 16 SAMs

Greece,Egypt,Israel can not develop even a Corvette




READ and learn what about the Turkish Navy


Turkiye has its own Naval Industry to produce everything

Turkish Navy has everything in total and far strongest in the region


Egypt bought 4 Type-209 class Submarines
Turkish Navy has already 12 Type-209 class Submarines

Its Turkish Type-214 class AIP Submarine enter service ....
( even better than 18 years old Greek Submarines )

TCG PIRI REIS .. 1 of 6 Type-214TN Submarines of the Turkish Navy
View attachment 905044




Egyptian Navy has 11 Frigates , Turkish Navy has 16 Frigates

We dont need pathetic FREMM Frigate armed with 16 SAM and 8 anti-ship Missile



1 of 4 modernized MEKO-200 Frigates enter service in 2023

-- Havelsan ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System
-- Aselsan TAKS Fire Control System
-- SMART-S MK-II 3D Radar
-- Aselsan MAR-D 3B AESA Radar
-- Aselsan AKR-D X and Ka-Band fire control Radars
-- Aselsan ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- Aselsan PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging
-- Aselsan KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- Aselsan FERSAH Carina Mounted Sonar System
-- Aselsan HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System

-- 127 mm Gun
-- Aselsan STOP 25mm Gun
-- Aselsan GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
-- 64 ESSM Air Defense Missiles
-- 16 ATMACA Anti ship Missiles
-- 6 Lightweight Torpedoes

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1 of 4 ISTIF class Frigates enter service in 2023

ADVENT Combat Management System
CENK-S AESA Radar
ALPER LPI Surface Radar
AKREP (AKR-D Block B-1/2) Fire Control Radar
ASELSAN Piri IRST
FERSAH Hull Mounted Sonar
SeaEye-AHTAPOT EO Reconnaisance and Survellience System
Aselsan ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
Aselsan HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System
16 cells VLS

-- 1 x 76 mm Gun
-- 16 x ATMACA Anti ship Missiles ( 250 km )
-- 64 x HISAR-D RF Air Defense Missiles
-- 1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
-- 6 x Torpedos
-- 2 x 25 mm Aselsan STOP Machine Gun Platforms

View attachment 905049



Egyptian Navy doesnt have any ASW Aircraft ( Plane )
Hellenic Navy has only 5 ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane )

on the other hand , Turkish Navy has 12 ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane )

Turkish Navy has more ASW Aircraft .. ( Plane ) than Egyptian+Hellenic Navies combined
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Turkish Unmanned Vessels to carry Anti-Ship Missiles and Torpedos
Egypt and Greece can only dream about it

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Only Turkish Navy has Electronic Warfare Ship in the region

TCG UFUK in service
View attachment 905052




KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is coming to operate from the TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship

to carry 150-280 km CAKIR and SOM-J Cruise Missiles ( land attack - anti ship )
also 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missile
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195m TCG DERYA Sea Supply Combat Support Ship
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250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missiles are enough to wipe out the enemy Warships
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even I am not talking about future projects

still they are dreaming about Egyptian Helenic Navies
Israel doesnt have even real Navy


This is the 3rd time you've copy-paste this comment, avoiding of course to answer what I wrote.
 
In the words of your own ex-director of the Naval Academy...

Former Naval Academy Commander Türker Ertürk did not like our SİHAs, which the whole world admired and praised: "What have they managed so far? You take everything from outside and combine it here."


He is anti-ERDOGAN
and He so hate ERDOGAN and his son-in-law who developed TB-2 , AKINCI and KIZILELMA

We dont give any sht to loser moron like Türker Ertürk



Everyone who criticizes your extreme nationalism and arrogant boasting,just HAS to be a "troll".

Goming-21 is trolling when he says Turkish weapons are plastic
while his country Egypt can not produce even plastic

You are also a troll ....nothing else
and only stupid trolls like you can send silly posts

250+ UCAVs not extreme nationalism .. stupid troll

Your pathetic Frigates armed with only 16 SAM
250 UCAVs = 1.000-1500 missiles



to fire even 48 SIMSEK Kamikaze Drones with E/O Camera to hit Radar of your Frigates
and game over !

Range : 200 km
Speed : up to mach 0,9 with new version
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Yeah UFUK is one day an EW ship,then you guys say it's an intelligence collection ship,I read it's also a training ship. I'm starting to think it's just a propaganda ship with little real value.

Typical stupid and liar Greek Media
 
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He is anti-ERDOGAN and He so hate ERDOGAN and his son-in-law who developed TB-2 , AKINCI and KIZILELMA

we dont give any sht to loser morons like Türker Ertürk
He is the former director of the Naval Academy. Not some buisenessman or politician.

Typical stupid and liar Greek Media
What Greek Media? It's YOUR sources and the internet that say it!

You didn't answer:

@MMM-E

I have a question,since you boast about your knowledge so much and you constantly tell everyone else to go learn more about military and history...where did you get all that supposed knowledge? Do you claim to be some kind of professor? Some ex-military officer? If I remember correctly,you had said or implied something about selling cars in Germany? Or...something like that?
 
when push comes to shove, erdogan and turkey runs away and backs down from sisi in libya and assad. aint no way Turkey can win a war against Greece, Israel, Saudi, Iran or Egypt at the moment. All bluster from a dictator who ruined turkeys economy.
 
Why is the Turkish navy not the strongest in the Mediterranean?
I wrote three reasons and I analyze them.

The most modern submarines currently exist in two countries,the only operational with AIP :
  • the 5 Greek (4 U-214 and 1 U-209)
  • 3 Israeli (Dolphin), .

The most powerful corvette at the moment is the Israeli Sa'ar 6-class, with an arsenal that has nothing to envy to a frigate.
  • 16 vertical launch cells for Barak-8 surface-to-air missiles
  • 40 vertical launch cells for C-Dome defense system
  • 16 Gabriel V anti-ship missile
The most powerful frigate is the Egyptian FREMM(three ships) with...
  • 16 ASTER 15 or 30
  • Strales
  • 8 Otomat Mk-2/A missiles
  • MU 90 torpedoes
 
This is the 3rd time you've copy-paste this comment, avoiding of course to answer what I wrote.

Have you no brain to understand what I wrote ?

read again

1-- You said that Turkish Navy doesnt have Type-214 Submarine
Turkish Navy has also Type-214 Submarine

TCG PIRI REIS .. 1 of 6 Type-214TN Submarines of the Turkish Navy
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2-- You talked about pathetic Egyptian FREMM Frigates without EW System
and armed with 16 SAM , 8 anti-ship missiles

Turkish Navy MEKO-200 and ISTIF Frigates far superior to pathetic Egyptian FREMM Frigates in technology , in fire power and in self sufficiency

enter service in 2023

64 SAMs
16 anti-ship Missiles
6 Torpedos
EW System
New Radars
Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System

Why is the Turkish navy not the strongest in the Mediterranean?
I wrote three reasons and I analyze them.

The most modern submarines currently exist in two countries,the only operational with AIP :
  • the 5 Greek (4 U-214 and 1 U-209)
  • 3 Israeli (Dolphin), .

The most powerful corvette at the moment is the Israeli Sa'ar 6-class, with an arsenal that has nothing to envy to a frigate.
  • 16 vertical launch cells for Barak-8 surface-to-air missiles
  • 40 vertical launch cells for C-Dome defense system
  • 16 Gabriel V anti-ship missile
The most powerful frigate is the Egyptian FREMM(three ships) with...
  • 16 ASTER 15 or 30
  • Strales
  • 8 Otomat Mk-2/A missiles
  • MU 90 torpedoes

What a silly post

Turkish Navy has everything in total and far strongest in the region

The most modern submarines currently exist in two countries,the only operational with AIP :
  • the 5 Greek (4 U-214 and 1 U-209)
  • 3 Israeli (Dolphin), .

Most modern Submarine is not 18 years old Greek U-214

but Turkish TCG PIRIREIS U-214 from 2022
 
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Have you no brain to understand what I wrote ?

read again

1-- You said that Turkish Navy doesnt have Type-214 Submarine
Turkish Navy has also Type-214 Submarine

TCG PIRI REIS .. 1 of 6 Type-214TN Submarines of the Turkish Navy
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2-- You talked about pathetic Egyptian FREMM Frigates without EW System
and armed with 16 SAM , 8 anti-ship missiles

Turkish Navy MEKO-200 and ISTIF Frigates far superior to pathetic Egyptian FREMM Frigates in technology , in fire power and in self sufficiency

enter service in 2023

64 SAMs
16 anti-ship Missiles
6 Torpedos
EW System
New Radars
Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System
The Turkish submarine is still undergoing sea trials,



while the Egyptian frigates are equipped with the EW system.

 
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