"Training in Pakistan was better than that in USA" tells Iranian fighter pilot

[KaiserX]

F35 is as maintenance heavy as an F-16.

Lol, I still stand by my word. F-35s would destroy any 4th generation air force.

F35 still has many drawbacks. Though it would be interesting to see how it would fair against a NATO/MAJOR-NONE NATO alleys air force. A while back a read that F16s were able to track and take down F35s in war games.

Stealth fighters by nature are far more maintenance heavy. The F35 is a complete system consisting of ground detection pods, EW pods, all built into the airframe itself. Even the stealth coating has to be maintained to pristine as even a small scratch or bird poop can cause major deviations in the RCS leading to the stealth fighters detection. Taking these minor details in prospective it is far more maintenance heavy than the F16s.

Also Pakistan has apparently inducted Chinese ground based radars capable of detecting stealth fighters. Anyways I doubt Pakistan or Israel would ever have any conflict. Way to far from one another and the US would prevent it far before

 

[Beny Karachun]

F35 still has many drawbacks. Though it would be interesting to see how it would fair against a NATO/MAJOR-NONE NATO alleys air force. A while back a read that F16s were able to track and take down F35s in war games.

Stealth fighters by nature are far more maintenance heavy. The F35 is a complete system consisting of ground detection pods, EW pods, all built into the airframe itself. Even the stealth coating has to be maintained to pristine as even a small scratch or bird poop can cause major deviations in the RCS leading to the stealth fighters detection. Taking these minor details in prospective it is far more maintenance heavy than the F16s.

Also Pakistan has apparently inducted Chinese ground based radars capable of detecting stealth fighters. Anyways I doubt Pakistan or Israel would ever have any conflict. Way to far from one another and the US would prevent it far before

F-35s aren't trackable from any significantly close distance. Not by F-16s, not by ground based radars of any sort today.

F-35s have been taken down in wargames only when the scenarios were shifted heavily in advantage of the F-16s, because in a realistic scenarios the F-16s couldn't detect the F-35, let alone provide weapons guidance. The F-35 shot them down from BVR or got inside the WVR without being detected.

Maintenance cost is a function of how difficult it is to maintain the plane. F-35 costs 30,000 dollars per flight hour, which is already F-15 territory, and within a few years will go down to 25,000 dollars, F-16 territory.

 

[KaiserX]

F-35s aren't trackable from any significantly close distance. Not by F-16s, not by ground based radars of any sort today.

F-35s have been taken down in wargames only when the scenarios were shifted heavily in advantage of the F-16s, because in a realistic scenarios the F-16s couldn't detect the F-35, let alone provide weapons guidance. The F-35 shot them down from BVR or got inside the WVR without being detected.

Maintenance cost is a function of how difficult it is to maintain the plane. F-35 costs 30,000 dollars per flight hour, which is already F-15 territory, and within a few years will go down to 25,000 dollars, F-16 territory.

F-35 operating costs may exceed funding by billions per year - Sandboxx

The F-35 Lightning II is a marvel of engineering and the most advanced aircraft in the U.S. arsenal. But throughout its history, the stealth fighter has been plagued with problems. First, it was a plethora of technical issues that kept restricting the aircraft and its production. But now, as the...

www.sandboxx.us

F-35 hourly cost is 36k which is 50% more than the F-16 and believe me these are fairly optimist figures taking into consideration supply shortages, high inflation, chip shortages, etc... the US military still sources much of its chips from Taiwan/China.

The F35 literally has many many design flaws including its stealth features.

F-35 Program Stagnated in 2021 but DOD Testing Office Hiding Full…

More than 20 years after Lockheed Martin won the contract for the F-35 program, development has largely stalled, with little real progress having been demonstrated over the past several years. And now there’s even less transparency.

www.pogo.org

'Not ready for war': Concerns raised over F-35 program due to design flaws and mounting costs

The F-35 was touted as the ultimate war machine, and Australia committed to spending $16 billion on buying up to 100 of them. But there are growing concerns the combat aircraft is nearing its use-by date.

www.abc.net.au

Fact Sheet: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Costs and Challenges - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation fact sheet on the United States F-35 joint strike fighter's costs and challenges

armscontrolcenter.org

Many more issues which have been "Classified" in order to protect national security and major export orders.

You can literally deny it all you want or push it under the rug, but boasting of measly squadron of untested and structurally vulnerable jets shows your insecurity.

In the end it would not even matter if Israel had 500 F35s.. If Pak launched 20 nukes on israel there would be 0 Israel left in the rest of history. Even if Israel dropped 40 nukes back on Pak we would still survive and thrive while wiping out any remnent of the apartheid zionist state

This is the response israel gave to a JOKER DEFENCE Minister of pak

https://twitter.com/x/status/812662530728402944

Wait until we get a hardliner one day who follows your same zionist policy

 

[Beny Karachun]

F-35 operating costs may exceed funding by billions per year - Sandboxx

The F-35 Lightning II is a marvel of engineering and the most advanced aircraft in the U.S. arsenal. But throughout its history, the stealth fighter has been plagued with problems. First, it was a plethora of technical issues that kept restricting the aircraft and its production. But now, as the...

www.sandboxx.us

F-35 hourly cost is 36k which is 50% more than the F-16 and believe me these are fairly optimist figures taking into consideration supply shortages, high inflation, chip shortages, etc... the US military still sources much of its chips from Taiwan/China.

The F35 literally has many many design flaws including its stealth features.

F-35 Program Stagnated in 2021 but DOD Testing Office Hiding Full…

More than 20 years after Lockheed Martin won the contract for the F-35 program, development has largely stalled, with little real progress having been demonstrated over the past several years. And now there’s even less transparency.

www.pogo.org

'Not ready for war': Concerns raised over F-35 program due to design flaws and mounting costs

The F-35 was touted as the ultimate war machine, and Australia committed to spending $16 billion on buying up to 100 of them. But there are growing concerns the combat aircraft is nearing its use-by date.

www.abc.net.au

Fact Sheet: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Costs and Challenges - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation fact sheet on the United States F-35 joint strike fighter's costs and challenges

armscontrolcenter.org

Many more issues which have been "Classified" in order to protect national security and major export orders.

You can literally deny it all you want or push it under the rug, but boasting of measly squadron of untested and structurally vulnerable jets shows your insecurity.

In the end it would not even matter if Israel had 500 F35s.. If Pak launched 20 nukes on israel there would be 0 Israel left in the rest of history. Even if Israel dropped 40 nukes back on Pak we would still survive and thrive while wiping out any remnent of the apartheid zionist state

This is the response israel gave to a JOKER DEFENCE Minister of pak

https://twitter.com/x/status/812662530728402944

Wait until we get a hardliner one day who follows your same zionist policy

Lol, you're retarded

 

[Signalian]

Flying & Fighting in the Mirage III/V: interview with Mirage pilot

Conceived as a Cold War interceptor for France, the Mirage has fought with the Pakistan Air Force for half a century. We spoke to former PAF Mirage pilot Fahad Mahsood about flying and fighting in …

hushkit.net

Thought would be a good read.

Good read, thank you

 

[Sayfullah]

Lol a single squadron of F-35s would destroy the entire PAF.

And a single shaheen 3 with a nuclear warhead would destroy entire najas state of Israel.

 

[Beny Karachun]

And a single shaheen 3 with a nuclear warhead would destroy entire najas state of Israel.

You wish lol.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Hi,

The USAF trains to the minimum capability level of the trainee foreign pilot.

With PAF they have to be at their best otherwise the Paf pilots would smash thru them.

Lol

My guy even demo teams are told not to show the true capability of fighter in airshows let alone BFM and friendly exercises with foreign nations.

Don't be silly. Even squadrons don't share their aircraft secrets and their capabilities with sister squadrons of the same air force.

Wachu Talkin bout

 

[MastanKhan]

Lol

My guy even demo teams are told not to show the true capability of fighter in airshows let alone BFM and friendly exercises with foreign nations.

Don't be silly. Even squadrons don't share their aircraft secrets and their capabilities with sister squadrons of the same air force.

Wachu Talkin bout

Hi,

Okay, if you say so.

You spilt the trurth so fast.

You kids cant keep any secrets.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Hi,

Okay, if you say so.

You spilt the trurth so fast.

You kids cant keep any secrets.

What can I say except your welcome

 

[LeGenD]

F-35 operating costs may exceed funding by billions per year - Sandboxx

The F-35 Lightning II is a marvel of engineering and the most advanced aircraft in the U.S. arsenal. But throughout its history, the stealth fighter has been plagued with problems. First, it was a plethora of technical issues that kept restricting the aircraft and its production. But now, as the...

www.sandboxx.us

F-35 hourly cost is 36k which is 50% more than the F-16 and believe me these are fairly optimist figures taking into consideration supply shortages, high inflation, chip shortages, etc... the US military still sources much of its chips from Taiwan/China.

The F35 literally has many many design flaws including its stealth features.

F-35 Program Stagnated in 2021 but DOD Testing Office Hiding Full…

More than 20 years after Lockheed Martin won the contract for the F-35 program, development has largely stalled, with little real progress having been demonstrated over the past several years. And now there’s even less transparency.

www.pogo.org

'Not ready for war': Concerns raised over F-35 program due to design flaws and mounting costs

The F-35 was touted as the ultimate war machine, and Australia committed to spending $16 billion on buying up to 100 of them. But there are growing concerns the combat aircraft is nearing its use-by date.

www.abc.net.au

Fact Sheet: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Costs and Challenges - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation fact sheet on the United States F-35 joint strike fighter's costs and challenges

armscontrolcenter.org

Many more issues which have been "Classified" in order to protect national security and major export orders.

You can literally deny it all you want or push it under the rug, but boasting of measly squadron of untested and structurally vulnerable jets shows your insecurity.

In the end it would not even matter if Israel had 500 F35s.. If Pak launched 20 nukes on israel there would be 0 Israel left in the rest of history. Even if Israel dropped 40 nukes back on Pak we would still survive and thrive while wiping out any remnent of the apartheid zionist state

This is the response israel gave to a JOKER DEFENCE Minister of pak

https://twitter.com/x/status/812662530728402944

Wait until we get a hardliner one day who follows your same zionist policy

Those reports are overblown for political reasons. Some of the "problems" stated are not much to begin with. No aircraft can have hundreds of problems and be mission capable while F-35A/B/C certainly are.

An F-35 pilot explains why the jet's bad press misses the point

There’s no other jet I’d want to go into combat in than the F-35A, the Air Force’s newest supersonic stealth fighter. As a fighter pilot who’s flown

www.sandboxx.us

GAO’s Latest Report On The F-35 Fighter Acquisition Program Finds No Major Problems. Really.

The Government Accountability Office has overlooked most of what matters about the Pentagon's biggest weapons program, focusing instead on trivia.

www.forbes.com

Some machines are better designed than others but every machine requires "maintenance." Stealthy aircraft are challenging and costly to maintain in particular but Americans have the necessary infrastructure, technical knowhow and funds to make them work. Israel is also managing its F-35 fleet very well.

Yes - F-35A/B/C availability rate is much lower than the 80% required mark. This is due to supply chain problems in large part. Removal of Turkey from the F-35 program and COVID-19 pandemic were significant causes in this matter.

A Bunch of F-35s Are Just Sitting Around Without Their Engines

You kinda need those.

www.popularmechanics.com

But the F-35 program is likely to get on track now. Congress is employing whipping tactic to make sure it does.

Congressman to F-35 contractors: 'what in the hell are you doing?' - Responsible Statecraft

Lawmakers find out that the DoD's premier fighter can't pass tests and will cost $1.3 trillion over its lifetime to sustain.

responsiblestatecraft.org

This is 'accountability process' in the works.

F-35A/B/C are deadly aircraft by any measure. It would be a grave mistake to assume otherwise.

They are not designed to do everything (no platform is) but they will make a mockery of any A2/AD arrangement in their path.

 

[MastanKhan]

Lol

My guy even demo teams are told not to show the true capability of fighter in airshows let alone BFM and friendly exercises with foreign nations.

Don't be silly. Even squadrons don't share their aircraft secrets and their capabilities with sister squadrons of the same air force.

Wachu Talkin bout

Son,

I knew the pilots at Hill AFB in the early 80's under training.

There was nothing that they were holding out.

Bottoml ine---you cannot hold back against the americans.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Bawja is a sell out. Sold his country for money. Not a good example with all due respect.

Bajwa isnt sellout........and thats coming from me a man who for the first time said that he isnt sincere with Pak.

Its in Pak's interest to have good relations with both East and West. We r no longer interested in have onesided foreign policy and relation as we did back in 1950s when we join SEATO-CENTO agreements.

Bajwa is either a genius or a fool, but time will tell. However now im more inclining on the genius side.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

F35 is as maintenance heavy as an F-16.

Lol, I still stand by my word. F-35s would destroy any 4th generation air force.

more then f16. Talk to IAF personnel. Its also giving problems to Europeans who bought it. Talk to IAF ground crew guys abt its RAM paint issues. Each aircraft is forced to get repainted after certain time.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

F-35s aren't trackable from any significantly close distance. Not by F-16s, not by ground based radars of any sort today.

F-35s have been taken down in wargames only when the scenarios were shifted heavily in advantage of the F-16s, because in a realistic scenarios the F-16s couldn't detect the F-35, let alone provide weapons guidance. The F-35 shot them down from BVR or got inside the WVR without being detected.

Maintenance cost is a function of how difficult it is to maintain the plane. F-35 costs 30,000 dollars per flight hour, which is already F-15 territory, and within a few years will go down to 25,000 dollars, F-16 territory.

Dude F16's operational costs r 4500/flight and maintenance costs r 20,000.
F35 even if operational costs it came down to 25000/ hour flight, then it still will be higher. As op. costs for f16s is 4500/flight.(not even per hour of a flight).

While the maintenance costs for f16 stand @ 20,000. Yr confusing the op. costs and maintenance cost. Both r different.

Thats why I am saying talk to a IAF personnel, the ground crew guys. Instead of talking gibberish!