Tillerson out, Pompeo in, this change is about Iran

[Taimoor Khan]

You gotta realize that unlike WH, US militarily establishment do enjoy better relationship with their Pakistani counterparts. Also the gap which was created in between Pakistan and Saudia Arab, after idiotic Pakistani parliament vote of "no to Saudia war" has now been filled completely - will help us to get exceptions from these arrogant US leaders. So as far as Pakistan is concerned, most they will do is to cut the aid completely, which they already have and some sanctions threats for e.g fatf but in the longer run, I do not think they will go beyond this. Iran definitely has to play smart here since all the anti Iranian forces around them are getting aligned one by one.

If we are hedging our bets on Pentagon, then we are biggest fools. State to state relations do not work like this. All American power corridors must be aligned in their policy towards Pakistan, whatever it might be and then we in Pakistan deal with them, as state to state. Till then, best to keep them at arms length. Whatever Secretary Janjua was negotiating with yanks recently, has come to nothing with this sudden change. And I am not sure what favours you are talking about from Saudi Arabia. They just back stabbed us in fatf.

They do act in the form of drones. So what further else ?

I don't think you remember the whole story. Let me refresh.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1374412


CIA Director Mike Pompeo has warned Pakistan that if it does not eliminate the alleged safe havens inside its territory, the United States will do “everything we can” to destroy them.


So no, it wasn't just about drones. This was followed by PAF chief explicit warning to shoot down not only drones but any jet trespassing into Pakistani airspace. There were also rumors going about cruise missile attacks, which were followed by Harbah sea based cruise missile test.



This chap Pompeo, he hates Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and basically anything relating to Islamic world which may put up resistance to their agenda. Good luck in talking with this nutcase.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Whatever Secretary Janjua was negotiating with yanks recently, has come to nothing with this sudden change. A

Janjua is not there to meet Rex at first place but direly to Trumps close aides. Do you even know all this time when she is/was in US, Rex was on official visit to African nations which implies that she was even not scheduled to meet him and his team. So with whom she is having negotiations with ? Let me inform you it was, Trumps South Asian adviser Lisa Curtis and her team which recently visited Pakistan as well. She probably has more influence over Trump w.r.t Pakistan than Rex ever had.Just leave it to this and wait for few days.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Janjua is not there to meet Rex at first place but direly to Trumps close aides. Do you even know all this time when she is/was in US, Rex was on official visit to African nations which implies that she was even not scheduled to meet him and his team. So with whom she is having negotiations with ? Let me inform you it was, Trumps South Asian adviser Lisa Curtis and her team which recently visited Pakistan as well. She probably has more influence over Trump w.r.t Pakistan than Rex ever had.Just leave it to this and wait for few days.

Sec Janjua is not high level official. She wouldnt be able to meet Tillerson anyway. If it was FM Asif Khawaja then yea perhaps.

Lisa Curtis is another b|tch and her diatribes against Pakistan are well known. You need to understand one thing, American power corridors are getting filled by people who are extremely anti-Pakistan. Do not give them impression that Pakistan is longing for talks. That will embolden them further. In this prevailing scenario, it is best for Pakistan to keep America at arms length. What Muneer Akram described as "Strategic disengagement".

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Sec Janjua is not high level official. She wouldnt be able to meet Tillerson anyway. If it was FM Asif Khawaja then yea perhaps.

Lisa Curtis is another b|tch and her diatribes against Pakistan are well known. You need to understand one thing, American power corridors are getting filled by people who are extremely anti-Pakistan. Do not give them impression that Pakistan is longing for talks. That will embolden them further. In this prevailing scenario, it is best for Pakistan to keep America at arms length. What Muneer Akram described as "Strategic disengagement".

I do understand that but Iran is more a concern to them than Pakistan for now while you are of the view that Pakistan is not Iran. Basically they all hate Muslim nations. They cannot piss off Saudis because of their petro of dollars and Kaaba's location.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I do understand that but Iran is more a concern to them than Pakistan for now while you are of the view that Pakistan is not Iran. Basically they all hate Muslim nations. They cannot piss off Saudis because of their petro of dollars and Kaaba's location.

Everything leads to Pakistan, eventually. We are the prime target will remain so.

Even though I despise the Persians and their stupid bravado, their non sense and the mayhem they are causing in Middle East, Last thing we would want in Pakistan is to let Iran get trampled by America and her allies, or a regime change in Iran at this point in time. Imagine how they turned a friendly Afghanistan into the hot bed and source of all terrorism against Pakistan, multiple it by atleast ten time, if they ever managed to get control of Iran, directly or by proxy. Our border with Iran is least protected.

 

[Kastor]

You are just about as sharp as a bag of hammers. This is a topic about Iran, and here you are derailing it with complete BS scenarios while insulting the Persians in the forum...wow!

 

[N_Al40]

So what if they had Turkic origins? You do not understand Iran at all, and many turks like you for some reason like to randomly bring up that most dynasties were turkic. Iran is a multi-ethnic country and time and time again, whether Iranian turk or any other Iranian, persian culture & language was revived, promoted and supreme.. The fact that some of them were of turkic origin means nothing. But I don't expect a non-Iranian to understand this. Their loyalties were always with Iran, not to turks or turkishness. They were all Persianate dynasties.

Worth noting that the Pahlavi's weren't 'Pure Persian'...Mohammad Reza Shah had Turkic in him and also had Georgian roots from his mothers side.

Pure Persians are rare; but still, few seem to understand that regardless of ethnic background, we are all united under the Iranian national identity, and have been for thousands of years.

 

[N_Al40]

Iran military capabilities are of no threat to Israel. Its Pakistan which is they know can make mince meat out of Israel if they cross certain red lines. Those red lines they need to cross to ensure the arrival of their messiah. Understand who is ruling both American and Israel these days.




Iran military capabilities pose no threat to Israel but Pakistan is completely different league all together. Both American and Israel are now ruled by religious nutcases working towards their prophecies. Its only Pakistan which can make mince meat of Israel if certain red lines are breached, not Iran. And that is why in his the first tweet of year, Trump went full ballistic against Pakistan. And before that, this chap Pompeo had to say this, which is just short of full fledge war with Pakistan.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1374412

US will act if Pakistan does not destroy safe havens: CIA

"Iran military capabilities pose no threat to Israel" - With all due respect brother, are you OK? Like seriously do you read about politico-military affairs? Then WHY on God's Earth has Israel been doing the following:

1.) Urging US to attack Iran since 1989
2.) Draw up plans to attack Iran itself
3.) Throw a HUGE fit over Iranian ballistic missiles for the past 40 years; THEMSELVES calling it a "Threat" to Israel
4.) Complaining about Iran's shipment of precision guided Ballistic Missiles to Hezbollah
5.) Calling on the EU and US to LIMIT Iran's missile to 300 km MAX - any higher and sanctions should be imposed
6.) Attempting to court Russia to not sell S-300 to Iran between 2015-2016
7.) Complaining about Iran's presence in Syria

Those are but a few; I won't give an all-out lecture on the BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS.

Now to the slightly (being generous with the word 'slightly btw), more sensible claim of yours:

"Israel but Pakistan is completely different league all together. Both American and Israel are now ruled by religious nutcases working towards their prophecies. Its only Pakistan which can make mince meat of Israel if certain red lines are breached"

1.) Pakistan hasn't done shi* from clay to help the Palestinians in any material way; bar SYMBOLIC visits, statements of solidarity, and some caravan walk. All of which are standard bare minimum Muslim States' support for Palestine.
2.) What 'Red Line' are you talking about brother? Please tell me? When has Pakistan ever threatened Israel seriously? OH that's right, that one time in 2016 when it 'Threatened' nuclear war over fake news. THAT ONE TIME IN ISRAEL'S 68 YEARS OF EXISTENCE. Iran has done this many times since 1979, and it's red lines aren't only a threat to it's homeland as it was in Pakistan's case.
3.) Pakistan ONLY JUST opened an embassy for the State of Palestine in January 2017. NEWS FLASH: Iran had one for them since 1979.
4.) Given the low-key cozy relationship between the Saudi's and Israel; Pakistan wouldn't dare to do shi* to Israel as the Saudi's would stop giving the Pakistani State generous financial and material donations. AND WE ALL KNOW HOW SUSCEPTIBLE PAKISTAN IS TO SAUDI PRESSURE. Bloody hell, Saudi offered the Israeli's their airfield to bomb Iran; you think the would sit by while Pakistan makes "Mince Meat" of Israel while they are currently in a low-key alliance against Iran.
5.) Maybe Pakistan should let itself out of US grip and then come talk to us about Pakistan threatening the ultimate nucleus of US decision making: Israel. Maybe start off by taking sovereign control of your airspace by US drones!!

Look I respect differences of opinion; but outright misinformation absolutely infuriates me.

I have lots of Pakistani friends here in London, and I was practically raised with them since birth, so I'm not totally surprised by what you've said. Allow me to explain: Over the course of my many years of living around Pakistani's, and getting to broadly know their religious and political views as a community; I can say with utmost confidence that Pakistani's seem to have this complex that Pakistan is the sole defender of the Islamic World and Ummah, just because they have Nukes. With all due respect, Iran is a far greater threat to Israel and has done more for the Islamic World and Ummah than Pakistan has.

You are just about as sharp as a bag of hammers. This is a topic about Iran, and here you are derailing it with complete BS scenarios while insulting the Persians in the forum...wow!

I know.

Their hubris is disgusting and their insults to us insane.

Kisafat ahmakh

 

[SubWater]

@Kastor dude, do u can read farsi?​

به گزارش مشرق، محمد عبداللهی در کانال تلگرامی خود نوشت: برکناری تیلرسون از وزارت خارجه آمریکا مهمترین نشانه این گزاره است که آمریکا برای جنگ و حمله نظامی به ایران مهیا میشود.

ترامپ در حال آماده کردن همه بسترها برای حمله به ایران است. جایگزین تیلرسون ( پمپئو ) یکی از بزرگترین حامیان حمله نظامی به ایران است. رجوع به آرشیو سخنرانی های او در مقام رئیس سیا نشان میدهد که ترامپ همراه ترین گزینه ممکن برای حمله نظامی به ایران را بعنوانوزیر خارجه به کابینه دعوت کرده است. قطعات دیگر این پازل را بنگرید:

مذاکره با رهبر کره شمالی: مذاکره با کره شمالی معنایی جز این ندارد که آمریکا در تلاش برای تعویق جنگ با کیم است تا با فراغ خاطر به گزینه نظامی علیه ایران بیندیشد.
یادداشت دیگری از محمد عبداللهی را بخوانید:
چند نکته در خصوص مساله حجاب
آقای شهردار، مردم را چه فرض کرده اید؟

برگزاری بزرگترین رزمایش نظامی مشترک آمریکا و اسرائیل در منطقه، سفر نتانیاهو به آمریکا و برکناری فوری تیلرسون (بعنوان بزرگترین مخالف جنگ با ایران در اطرافیان ترامپ) و تضمین اسرائیل برای کمک به آمریکا در جنگ با ایران و مثلا نابودی کامل جمهوری اسلامی بعنوان راه حل نهایی.

سفر بن سلمان به انگلستان و آمریکا برای خرید تسلیحات بیشتر و پر کردن کامل انبار تسلیحات عربستان: اتحاد اعراب و اسراییل و آمریکا و انگلیس با سفر دوره ای اخیر محمد بن سلمان، خبر از استارت فازی جدید از این دسیسه می دهد.

و در نهایت، بهترین سناریو برای آمریکا حمله به «ایرانِ آشوب زده» است. آشوب در داخل و خارج. در نظر بگیریم که در این هفته سه حمله به سفارتخانه های ما در انگلستان، اتریش و آلمان صورت گرفته است. هدف از این حملات القای بی ثباتی در ایران آن هم در فضایی است که آشوب خیابانی داخلی جواب نداده است.

یادداشت دیگری از محمد عبداللهی را بخوانید:

رفراندوم یا نخودسیاه؟!
آقای روحانی راست می‌گویند؟

آنچه پیداست، نظام باید برای این گزینه احتمالی نیز پیش بینی های لازم را داشته باشد. برجام با شعار ممانعت از جنگ، به قلب راکتور ها سیمان ریخت و روحیه مقاومت را آنچنان به ضعف کشاند که کفتارهای نظام سلطه را به حمله وسوسه کرده است. حفظ آرامش کشور، کمک به تولید و رونق اقتصاد و نیز تقویت توان موشکی و تسلیحاتی کشور، بهترین گزینه برای پیشگیری از هر جنگی است.
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به گزارش مشرق، احمد کاظم زاده در یادداشت روزنامه جوان نوشت:

این روزها بحث‌های زیادی درباره برکناری رکس تیلرسون، وزیر امور خارجه امریکا آن‌هم به صورت غیرمتعارف و تحقیرآمیز در جریان است و از زوایای مختلف به این مسئله نگریسته می‌شود اما یک زاویه‌ای که به نظر می‌رسد در این بررسی‌ها مورد غفلت قرار گرفته است، نقش رژیم صهیونیستی و همپیمانان آن در این ماجرا است و از این نظر برکناری تیلرسون را می‌توان رهاورد سفر نتانیاهو به امریکا و لابی‌گری‌های وی در آیپک بزرگ‌ترین سازمان مافیای یهودی در امریکا دانست. رکس تیلرسون در آخرین سفر منطقه‌ای خود به اسرائیل سفر نکرد و پیش از آن نیز ظاهراً سفری نداشت و شاید بتوان گفت از معدود چهره‌های کابینه ترامپ بود که از زیاده‌روی در ابراز ارادت به جناح راستگرای حاکم بر رژیم صهیونیستی به ریاست نتانیاهو خودداری کرد و در ساخت و پاخت‌های جدید برای قربانی کردن کامل فلسطین در چارچوب آنچه که از آن به «معامله قرن» تعبیر می‌شود، چندان رد پایی ازتیلرسون دیده نمی‌شود و اساساً این بحث‌ها در خارج از چارچوب وزارت خارجه دنبال می‌شود که تیلرسون ریاست آن را برعهده داشت.

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روایت روزنامه سعودی از برکناری تیلرسون
البته پذیرش نقش رژیم صهیونیستی و شخص نتانیاهو در برکناری تیلرسون منوط به پذیرش نقش و نفوذ این رژیم و نتانیاهو بر شخص دونالد ترامپ هم هست، چراکه تیلرسون با دستور ترامپ کنار گذاشته شده است و لذا باید دید گستره نفوذ رژیم صهیونیستی و نتانیاهو بر ترامپ چقدر است. به طور خلاصه باید گفت اگر ترامپ از حمایت یک مافیای پرنفوذ همچون مافیای صهیونیستی که با مافیای سعودی- اماراتی هم دست به یکی کرده‌، برخوردار نبود، نمی‌توانست خود را به سرعت از ته جدول نامزدهای انتخاباتی سال 2016 به بالا بکشاند و در نهایت خود را به کرسی ریاست جمهوری برساند. از این دید پیروزی ترامپ پیش از آنکه نتیجه یک پروسه معمول انتخاباتی باشد، حاصل یک پروژه حساب شده و مدیریت شده بوده که در آن همه بازیگرانی که به نوعی خود را بازنده سیاست‌های دولت اوباما می‌دانستند، در آن مشارکت داشتند. عملکرد ترامپ بعد از پیروزی در انتخابات چه در زمینه اولین سفر خود به ریاض و چه در زمینه دستور انتقال سفارت امریکا به بیت‌المقدس نشان داد که وی به نوعی داشت از خجالت این طرف‌ها درمی‌آمد. البته این اواخر مقاومت‌های هرچند اندک از طرف دولت ترامپ در برابر رژیم صهیونیستی دیده‌ می‌شد که البته با ارسال پیام‌های هشدارآمیز از سوی مافیای صهیونیستی همچون ارسال بسته مشکوک به منزل پسر ارشد ترامپ نیز همراه بوده اما بازگشت مجدد ادبیات ترامپ به ادبیات نتانیاهو و همچنین اقدام عملی وی در برکناری تیلرسون نشان می‌دهد که در این دعوای پنهان زور مافیای صهیونیستی بر ترامپ چربیده و آن را دوباره در مشت خود گرفته است.

در مجموع به نظر می‌رسد با برکناری تیلرسون کابینه افراطی ترامپ افراطی‌تر می‌شود و موقعیت افرادی همانند نیکی هیلی، سفیر امریکا در سازمان ملل که عملاً خود را به عضوی از کابینه نتانیاهو درآورده‌اند تقویت می‌شود و قدرت مانور بیشتری پیدا می‌کنند اما در مقابل موقعیت افرادی مثل ماتیس، وزیر دفاع که همانند تیلرسون محافظه‌کارانه
عمل می‌کند دشوار می‌شود و امریکا بیش از پیش برای ارتکاب یک خطای استراتژیک دیگر همانند دوران جرج بوش پسر مستعدتر می‌شود.
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به گزارش مشرق، روزنامه سعودی «العرب» چاپ لندن در مطلبی با عنوان «قطر بزرگ‌ترین بازنده برکناری تیلرسون است»، نوشت که تعیین «مایک پمپئو» برای تصدی وزارت خارجه آمریکا، به محک گذاشتن راهبرد ترامپ برای محاصره ایران است.

العرب با درج تصویری از تیلرسون (در حال ترک جای خود) که زیرش نوشته «راه کسی که حرف رئیس‌جمهور را گوش نکند»، نوشت: با توجه به انتقادهایی که دیپلماسی آمریکا به رهبری تیلرسون با آن روبه‌رو بود و گفته می‌شد که ادامه سیاست آتش‌بس اوباما در مقابل روسیه، ایران و کره شمالی است، و در پی آن آمریکا را متهم می‌کرد که راه را برای کاهش نقش آمریکا در مسائل بزرگ جهانی باز گذاشته، تصمیم برکناری تیلرسون غافلگیرکننده نبود.

در ادامه این گزارش آمده است که «محافل دیپلماتیک عربی در واشنگتن می‌گویند که تغییر تیلرسون با مایک پمپئو مدیر سازمان سیا، دیپلماسی آمریکا را به عنوان قدرت اول بین‌الملل، به صحنه برمی‌گرداند».

العرب ادعا کرد: بزرگ‌ترین بازندگان این تغییر [و برکناری وزیر خارجه آمریکا] قطر و ایران هستند که [از آن] استفاده کردند؛ هر یک از جانب خود روی حساب‌های تیلرسون و لابی اوباما در وزارت خارجه حساب باز کرده بودند تا ترامپ را به چالش بکشند... .

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اعتراف امارات به دست داشتن در عزل «تیلرسون»
«دونالد ترامپ» رئیس جمهور آمریکا روز سه‌شنبه (13 مارس) طی حکمی تیلرسون را از وزارت خارجه برکنار و «مایک پومپئو» رئیس سازمان مرکزی اطلاعات (سیا) را جایگزین او کرد. ترامپ تاکید کرد که برکناری تیلرسون به خاطر اختلاف جدی بر سر توافق هسته‌ای ایران بوده است.

العرب همچنین نوشت: محافل دیپلماتیک عربی در آمریکا می‌گویند، این اقدام ترامپ، نشانه‌ای مثبت و روشن از رئیس جمهور آمریکا به کشورهای [عربی] خلیج [فارس] بخصوص عربستان، درست چند ساعت قبل از تعیین زمان سفر ولی‌عهد عربستان محمد بن سلمان به واشنگتن در بیستم مارس جاری است و پیامی آشکار از تمایل به از بین بردن اختلافات خاموش با ریاض در خصوص پرونده قطر است.

به گفته العرب، «خروج تیلرسون [از دولت] بزرگترین تغییر د دولت ترامپ تاکنون است و اختلافاتی را که چند ماه میان رئیس جمهور و مدیر اجرایی سابق شرکت "اکسان موبیل" [تیلرسون] ادامه داشت، پایان داد.

این روزنامه سعودی نوشت که «گزارش‌ها قبلا در ژوئیه [2017] نشان داد که تیلرسون در سخنان خصوصی خود، ترامپ را احمق توصیف کرده بود آن‌زمان که رئیس جمهور پیشنهاد کرده بود که زرادخانه اتمی آمریکا ده برابر شود»

بنا بر این گزارش، «ناظران امور خلیج [فارس] می‌گویند که برکناری تیلرسون سبب شد قطر یکی از مهم‌ترین حامیان خود در دولت ترامپ را از دست بدهد و این امر سبب می‌شود که از سیاست فرار رو به جلو دست بردارد و با جدیتی بیشتر به این بیندیشد که حل بحران [روابط با چهار کشور عربی] از خارج نمی‌آید و باید به توافق ریاض مورخ 2013/2014 متعهد باشد...».

العرب افزود: «محافل دیپلماتیک خلیج [فارس] می‌گویند که وزیر برکنار شده آمریکا، مسئولیت تکبرورزی قطر بر عهده اوست چرا که قبلا از تلاش قطر برای توقف حمایت مالی از گروه‌های افراطی یا پیشرفت در تقسیم لیست تروریست‌ها سخن گفته بود و قطری‌ها این سخنان را چراغ سبزی برای ادامه مظلوم‌نمایی خود دانسته بودند... بر خلاف اینکه ترامپ قطر را به حمایت از تروریسم متهم کرد و آن را تحت فشار گذاشت، دیپلماسی تیلرسون کاملا عکس رویکرد رئیس جمهور آمریکا بود و به جای فشار بر دوحه، رابطه غیرمتوازنی با دو طرف بحران برقرار کرد».

العرب با اشاره به موضوع ایران نوشت: قطر تنها نقطه اختلافی ترامپ و تیلرسون نبود. اختلاف بزرگ‌تر بر سر مسئله هسته‌ای ایران بود که راهبرد ترامپ در منزوی کردن ایران را تعطیل کرده بود. ترامپ سه‌شنبه گفته که او و تیلرسون توافق نظر کامل دارند اما در برخی مسائل اختلاف دارند و گفته بود که درباره توافق (هسته‌ای) ایران فکر می‌کند که آن هولناک است اما تیلرسون آن را قابل قبول می‌داند. او [ترامپ] گفته که خواستار لغو یا اقدامی درباره آن [توافق هسته‌ای] بوده اما موضع تیلرسون کمی متفاوت بوده بنابراین در مواضعشان متفق‌القول نبوده‌اند.

بنا بر این گزارش، «ناظران می‌گویند که تعیین مایک پمپئو [رئیس سازمان سیا برای وزارت خارجه] محکی جدی برای راهبرد ترامپ برای محاصره ایران است بخصوص که مدیر سیا و رئیس جدید دستگاه دیپلماسی آمریکا به اینکه نباید تماس امن میان ایران و عراق و سوریه تا لبنان که حزب‌الله بر آن مسلط است، وجود داشته باشد، اعتقاد دارد... وزیر خارجه جدید آمریکا پیشتر توصیه کرده بود که کاروان‌های حامل سلاح و تجهیزات در راه سوریه برای تقویت بشار اسد یا حزب‌الله لبنان، هدف قرار بگیرند. او به فشار بیشتر بر اسد اعتقاد دارد ولو اینکه با زور باشد به جای اینکه اجازه داده شود که او (اسد) بر شهرهایی که از دست داده، کنترل پیدا کند».
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/840082/روایت-روزنامه-سعودی-از-برکناری-تیلرسون
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/840106/برکناری-تیلرسون-و-عواقب-استراتژیک-آن
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/840069/آیا-آمریکا-رویای-حمله-به-ایران-را-در-سر-دارد​

Three short article about Rex Tillerson fire.
You as American must be careful b/c Americans are going to trap by Emaratis and Israilis.
The gap in NATO will rise and maybe we see American soldiers in areas like Yemen, Syria and Lebanon in favor of some small countries in MENA.
MR Zarif one time said some guys in region are ready to fight till last American soldier.

 

[Kastor]

Yes, I can read it but poorly, I agree with some of the analysis, especially the timing of Netanyahu's visit and Tillerson's dismissal in Africa. I doubt anyone in the Pentagon will think an attack on Iran is advisable. Not when they have a variety of other options at their disposal. Trump only talks tough, he will withdraw from the JCPOA and he will ratchet up sanctions on Iran, but he won't attack. Lastly, they will oppose Iran and maybe even Russia in Syria but only through air attacks. Iran needs to plan for both of those eventualities.
PS: this is only my opinion, I'm basing it on the feel of the American public, they do not want to be involved in another war, the only way an attack on Iran can happen is if they build a public case for it or if Iran does something foolish like attack a U.S. ship or position. The best defense is to be quiet for now and just win Syria and prepare Hezbollah in case Israel gets any ideas.

 

[SubWater]

Yes, I can read it but poorly, I agree with some of the analysis, especially the timing of Netanyahu's visit and Tillerson's dismissal in Africa. I doubt anyone in the Pentagon will think an attack on Iran is advisable. Not when they have a variety of other options at their disposal. Trump only talks tough, he will withdraw from the JCPOA and he will ratchet up sanctions on Iran, but he won't attack. Lastly, they will oppose Iran and maybe even Russia in Syria but only through air attacks. Iran needs to plan for both of those eventualities.
PS: this is only my opinion, I'm basing it on the feel of the American public, they do not want to be involved in another war, the only way an attack on Iran can happen is if they build a public case for it or if Iran does something foolish like attack a U.S. ship or position. The best defense is to be quiet for now and just win Syria and prepare Hezbollah in case Israel gets any ideas.

that is one of IRGC websites. For me is interesting that They think these decisions are imposed on Trump from outside like what you said.
the current Iran situation is not worst than 2006, I was child that period of time but I remember that many here believe that, Israel war on Hezbollah is first action to attack Iran at that period tens of thousands soldiers were ready in west and east borders to attack Iran but Hezbollah survived and all plans failed.
nowadays, Iran successfully create armed land in both west and east borders and Iraq and Afghanistan government are more independence and Hezbollah is more powerful.
as result direct war b/w Iran and US is not possible till existence of Hezbollah in Syria and Iraq.
But if I was Pompeo, I work on below scenario to hit Iran.
Saudis showed how much they are unpredictable recently, my fear is that something bad happen in Persian gulf (which non of Iran and Saudis want to happen or maybe false flag operation by traitor forces in Iran side or Saudi side) and as result war b/w Iran and Saudis start. This is favorable scenario for both Americans and Israel.
That is war b/w two Islamic country so Iran can not hit Israel and Americans as respond while they can help Saudis in shadow to damage Iran in expense of Saudis.
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about JCPOA, nobody knows what will happen and even if American leave what Iran will do as respond.
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I believe Pompeo will damage NATO unity and that is exact thing what Russians and in lesser Iran want.
emaratis are celebrating new job for Pempeo and that mean something is cooking behind of sense against Ekhvanis. and my prediction is Turkey(as big brother of Ekhvanis gangs) with help of Russians will create more problems for Americans in places like Syria than Iran.
and Europeans as other pillar of NATO won't stand behind America in any war in middle east more.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

So what if they had Turkic origins? You do not understand Iran at all, and many turks like you for some reason like to randomly bring up that most dynasties were turkic. Iran is a multi-ethnic country and time and time again, whether Iranian turk or any other Iranian, persian culture & language was revived, promoted and supreme.. The fact that some of them were of turkic origin means nothing. But I don't expect a non-Iranian to understand this. Their loyalties were always with Iran, not to turks or turkishness. They were all Persianate dynasties.

I agree about their loyalty to Iran.

If we are hedging our bets on Pentagon, then we are biggest fools. State to state relations do not work like this. All American power corridors must be aligned in their policy towards Pakistan, whatever it might be and then we in Pakistan deal with them, as state to state. Till then, best to keep them at arms length. Whatever Secretary Janjua was negotiating with yanks recently, has come to nothing with this sudden change. And I am not sure what favours you are talking about from Saudi Arabia. They just back stabbed us in fatf.




I don't think you remember the whole story. Let me refresh.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1374412


CIA Director Mike Pompeo has warned Pakistan that if it does not eliminate the alleged safe havens inside its territory, the United States will do “everything we can” to destroy them.


So no, it wasn't just about drones. This was followed by PAF chief explicit warning to shoot down not only drones but any jet trespassing into Pakistani airspace. There were also rumors going about cruise missile attacks, which were followed by Harbah sea based cruise missile test.



This chap Pompeo, he hates Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and basically anything relating to Islamic world which may put up resistance to their agenda. Good luck in talking with this nutcase.

As the CIA director his first foreign visit was to Turkey, which is putting everything on table without any taboos...

 

[AmirPatriot]

I would think that the US has to meet its end of the bargain also and imposing sanctions out of the blue needs justification

"Hurr durr missiles, hurr durr nukes" etc

 

[Mav3rick]

You are kicking the hornet nest my friend. But yea, we know what you are referring to, the imported revolution from France!


Iran will be used as the smoke screen, but no doubt Pakistan is in the cross hair. They guy himself tweeted in a very threaten tone against Pakistan not long ago.

Pakistan and Iran are 2 countries against which the US can never win on the ground. They can most definitely achieve complete air superiority and run over the AF/Navy but putting boots on the ground is a different matter altogether. Plus, in case of Pakistan, we have the added strength of Nuclear weapons.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

"Iran military capabilities pose no threat to Israel" - With all due respect brother, are you OK? Like seriously do you read about politico-military affairs? Then WHY on God's Earth has Israel been doing the following:

1.) Urging US to attack Iran since 1989
2.) Draw up plans to attack Iran itself
3.) Throw a HUGE fit over Iranian ballistic missiles for the past 40 years; THEMSELVES calling it a "Threat" to Israel
4.) Complaining about Iran's shipment of precision guided Ballistic Missiles to Hezbollah
5.) Calling on the EU and US to LIMIT Iran's missile to 300 km MAX - any higher and sanctions should be imposed
6.) Attempting to court Russia to not sell S-300 to Iran between 2015-2016
7.) Complaining about Iran's presence in Syria

Those are but a few; I won't give an all-out lecture on the BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS.

Now to the slightly (being generous with the word 'slightly btw), more sensible claim of yours:

"Israel but Pakistan is completely different league all together. Both American and Israel are now ruled by religious nutcases working towards their prophecies. Its only Pakistan which can make mince meat of Israel if certain red lines are breached"

1.) Pakistan hasn't done shi* from clay to help the Palestinians in any material way; bar SYMBOLIC visits, statements of solidarity, and some caravan walk. All of which are standard bare minimum Muslim States' support for Palestine.
2.) What 'Red Line' are you talking about brother? Please tell me? When has Pakistan ever threatened Israel seriously? OH that's right, that one time in 2016 when it 'Threatened' nuclear war over fake news. THAT ONE TIME IN ISRAEL'S 68 YEARS OF EXISTENCE. Iran has done this many times since 1979, and it's red lines aren't only a threat to it's homeland as it was in Pakistan's case.
3.) Pakistan ONLY JUST opened an embassy for the State of Palestine in January 2017. NEWS FLASH: Iran had one for them since 1979.
4.) Given the low-key cozy relationship between the Saudi's and Israel; Pakistan wouldn't dare to do shi* to Israel as the Saudi's would stop giving the Pakistani State generous financial and material donations. AND WE ALL KNOW HOW SUSCEPTIBLE PAKISTAN IS TO SAUDI PRESSURE. Bloody hell, Saudi offered the Israeli's their airfield to bomb Iran; you think the would sit by while Pakistan makes "Mince Meat" of Israel while they are currently in a low-key alliance against Iran.
5.) Maybe Pakistan should let itself out of US grip and then come talk to us about Pakistan threatening the ultimate nucleus of US decision making: Israel. Maybe start off by taking sovereign control of your airspace by US drones!!

Look I respect differences of opinion; but outright misinformation absolutely infuriates me.

I have lots of Pakistani friends here in London, and I was practically raised with them since birth, so I'm not totally surprised by what you've said. Allow me to explain: Over the course of my many years of living around Pakistani's, and getting to broadly know their religious and political views as a community; I can say with utmost confidence that Pakistani's seem to have this complex that Pakistan is the sole defender of the Islamic World and Ummah, just because they have Nukes. With all due respect, Iran is a far greater threat to Israel and has done more for the Islamic World and Ummah than Pakistan has.

You lost your marbles ?

First of all, make up your mind as to who are YOU, when you say WE??? Waving an Iraqi flag while fiddling with Persian testicles doesn't come across as someone who got self respect.


Now coming to the rest of your rants, Brother.


From point 1) to 7), anyone with slight knowledge and idea of relatively recent past history, would know that Israel use America and by in large western world to get want it wants. I mean, why put your men and resources in danger when others can be utilize to achieve the desire result. Of all people, if you are a Iraqi, you should know how America trampled your country for the sake and interest of Israel. It is the same strategy they are employing with Iran. If I had such privilege available to me, I would do the same, let someone else do the dirty work for me.


Now moving to Pakitan:

1) Supporting Palestinian issue for the sake of Palestinians (in isolation of the religious significance of the holy places) is a complicated issue for us. You see, its hard to sell to our people when we see the likes of PLO and its leaders sucking on our worst enemy India and its leaders. And when you see them recall their envoy back just because the chap was seen with a Kashmiri freedom activist, that was the last straw that broke the camel back. Irony is, the gathering and event was in support to Palestine over Juresalem issue. And That happened after our UN ambassador, after co-sponsoring the UN resolution against America on the issue of Jerusalem , made a very hard hitting speech. Let that all sink in!! Historically, there is deafening silence or just random BS of no real significance when it comes to Kashmir issue from Muslim world by in large. You are all sucking on India, alteast give us respect that our passports still carry this text on each page which say "NOT VALID FOR ISRAEL". We don't have any direct beef with Israel. We fought with them with Arabs, our pilots shot down IAF jets while the Arabs were getting their arse handed over to them in aerial battles. Yea maybe in past it was a Palestinian issue for us, as group people of certain ethnicity, BUT now, its more of a religious significance. We are more interested in the sanity of the "qibla-e-awal", the Al-Aqsa then anything else. We are looking at it as issue of Muslims without an ethnic non sense attached to it.

2) As I mentioned, our red lines are related to the sanctity of Al-Aqsa. Any harm done to it for the sake of temple of Solomon by Zionist will warrant a response, you can be assure of that. For the rest, time and again, as a proud nation, we don't want to be humiliated and left in lurch by PLO and Muslims world in large when it comes to our interests in relation to our arch enemy India. We warned Israel in 1998 before our nuke tests and they complied. We train our special forces while making them aware the importance of Jurselam to Muslim world, I repeat "MUSLIM" world. We don't care about Arab or Persian , ajam or non ajam no sense. We are above that.

Bottom line is, we don't suffer from verbal diahreaa and neither we believe in empty rhetoric of "death to America" and "death to Isreal" shouting match as we often see among the Persian mullahs and their gathering. Laughable!! We believe in capabilities and hence we are the fourth biggest nuke power in the world. A responsible power. Our threats are not for public consumptions and are measured and discrete. We don't believe in chest thumping. Our enemies are all non muslim nations, we don't go about drilling holes in the ship of Ummah like the Persian mullahs and their counter parts in Saudi Arabia. You lot are embracing and pathetic.

3) Yes we opened a very nice embassy on our own expenses with all the background which I just mentioned to you. What Iran has achieved with opening the embassy earlier? NADA!! Pathetic and childish argument.


4) LOL, you are one ignorant brat! Since when Saudi start to dictate Pakistani state response and its strategy to Israel? We have more pressing issues about Indo-Isreal nexus and its effects on Pakistan security and interest. We have openly expressed our displeasure over this Indo-Isreali nexus under American patronage. And that is why during recent trip to India, Netehyahu despite being pressed by Indians to say negative things about Pakistan, clearly said on their face that Israel do not want to make enemy out of Pakistan and would like the same in return. He clearly know and understand what it would mean for Israel if they come out in open in their hostility to Pakistan. Israel knows it place. What the hell you talking about as if Saudis owe Pakistan? LOL. That didn't work over Yemen war did it? We had a very old strategic pact with Saudi Arabia which we are abiding by, neither it was against any other so called Muslim state nor we will get into the non sense between you Persian mullah c*** suckers or the Wahabi lot. We try our best to keep you to two fighting dogs away from each other. Do you think we, the 220 Millions Pakistanis not see how you two are destroying Middle east and dividing Muslim world on the bases of sect? Don't get me started mate. Have some perspective.

5) Get out of your self concocted delusion mate, Pakistan was never in grip of America. We always worked for our national interests. We milked them when we could. Pakistan comes first and will always be like that. There are reasons that from American congressman, to CIA. to POTUS, to their military, everyone tear their hair out in frustration when it comes to Pakistan. So take your BS where the sun don't shine. Your diatribes are laughable. Go and ask anyone in American establishment as to who was the one who brought them defeat and humiliation in Afghansitan. You see, we are in business of taking on super powers and bring them down on their knees, we don't suffer from verbal diahreaa like Iran or rest of the Muslim world.


Do you see me gives a flying fk as to what infuriates you or your kind? I am blunt with FACTS. may be the kick in the back you lot need to get out of your slumber and start building capabilities then chest thumping! Your idols, the Persian mullahs surrendered their nuke programme (ironically provided by Pakistan, the AQ Khan saga!) just to curry some favours from west. I do actually fear for Iran now seeing what happened to Libya after they surrendered their nuke program. The last thing we want is American lead regime change in Iran, next door to us, if Afghansitan wasn't enough!


You know shit about Pakistan, whatever tiny bit of respect that is left in Muslims world, where they are not going about screwing each other, is because of Pakistan. we defended Sarajevo when it was left to the mercy of blood thirsty dogs. We locked horns with might soviet bear and brought it down and now we are doing the same with another arrogant power. We are in perpetual war with millions of hindu terroists and fundamentals and their state in our east. Our figths, our wars our conflicts are all with anti Muslim entities. Since when Iran fought a war with kuffars? Oh I remember, you last one was with YOU , if you are a Iraqi!! Bah, the Irony. I don't want to even laugh coz its not funny. You lot are so consumed drilling holes in Muslim lands beaucse you are shia and others are sunni, so much so that you cant even comprehend how pathetic it looks from outside.

Piss off from here brother! You know nothing.

And YES we are the SOLE nuke power of Muslim world and we are damn proud and arrogant about it. Rather living in jealously, try to catch up , not roll over infront of America and west.