Tamil actor in trouble Over 'Derogatory' Remark on Hindus' Mahabharatha

[$@rJen]

Have you figured out what is a "Satan" ?

No, because i don't believe them.. but the people who believe say most of them can be found in a temple

well, at least you can take a joke

of course i can take, it depends on what a joke is!!

 

[DineshS]

No, because i don't believe them.. but the people who believe say most of them can be found in a temple

Meh...Hindus don't have a concept called Satan.
Our hell is where one of our most righteous gods preside over and he ain't evil or cruel.

 

[PlugnPlay]

No, because i don't believe them.. but the people who believe say most of them can be found in a temple

If you don't believe in "Satan", then why did you mention "Satan" and call the Pandava's as "Satan"


BTW who are the people who say "Satan" can be fond in a Temple ? are they called "Christians"

of course i can take, it depends on what a joke is!!

Look in a mirror and tell us if you see the Joke

 

[PlugnPlay]

hindus doesn't believe in them... but others who believe in them point the finger at temples..

What are these "others" called ?

no it doesn't

That only means you have a poor sense of humor

 

[$@rJen]

others

most of the people i come across

 

[DineshS]

What do you think of the concept of worshiping a Roman Torture Instrument ?

"liberals" now a days use the same during foreplay.

I don't believe in satan or god....

but he's a funny looking fatty fellow, and makes a laugh when people pray or hear his story...
and people say a elephant head is wait for the girl

I think its Nuts...

Again, repeated targeting of only Hindu gods..
BUT not a word on others..

It sort of proves you to b a coward or a Hindu hating bigot.

 

[PlugnPlay]

I don't believe in satan or god....

but he's a funny looking fatty fellow, and makes a laugh when people pray or hear his story...
and people say a elephant head is wait for the girl

I think its Nuts...

but ...but ...but .... you just said the Pandava's were "Satan"

Are you now telling us that you were just blabbering like a Fool ? ....... that you don't believe half the things you say ? Are you currently on some strong medication ? I suggest you double the doze. Its not doing you any good.

Again, repeated targeting of only Hindu gods..
BUT not a word on others..

It sort of proves you to b a coward or a Hindu hating bigot.

Give his kind enough rope and we get to see what they are really made of.

 

[PlugnPlay]

Fool.. didn't i say the people i come accross point he finger at Temple...
yes i'm on marijuana like some Fool who eats filth and walk naked

Yes, you did admit you come from a family of people who point fingers at a Hindu temple and call it "Satan". The rotten apple has not fallen far from the tree.

There are those who eat filth and walk naked, and then there are religious Perverts who rape kids, coir boys, on an institutional level and get "forgiveness" so that they can go forth and multiply.

No prize for guessing which kind of "Filth" is more dangerous to society and Nation.

Well, At least he can take a joke.
But the Hindu hating bigotry in guise of Atheism is amazingly refreshing....have not seen that tactic plyed out in a while..

most Atheists are very un-afraid.

Oh, he is no Atheist. That is just a sham to help him Abuse Hinduism without any blowback to Christianity.

In one of his previous posts he had admitted that "most of us are devout Catholics" while supporting the involvement of the Church in the political process.

 

[manlion]

Which MB are u referring to?
Even Bhagavatham is part of MB if we go by your logic

MB main strand is not about religion, it is about dharma.
Out of the original MB story, was borne the religious scriptures.
Don't confuse the original story with religious scriptures that followed.

dharma has multiple meaning e.g religion sanatana dharma , purusartha dharma - righteous duties

Because of this, the Vyasa who authored Mahabharata was contemporary to the incidents mentioned in Mahabharata, where as the Vyasa who authored Bhagavata_Purana lived several centuries after the incidents mentioned in Bhagavata. Life of (Vasudeva) Krishna is mentioned both in Mahabharata and Bhagavata. But the Vyasa who narrated about Krishna in Mahabharata was a contemporary of Krishna, where as the Vyasa who narrated about Krishna in Bhagavata Purana lived several centuries after Krishna. The Vyasa who authored Bhagavata probably was a Vyasa in the lineage of original Vyasa who authored Mahabharata.

http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/purana-and-itihasa

Think of it the same way as Shirdi baba...His story while happening was remotely non-religious. But it has become part of main stream religion with his own namams & poems.
Don't confuse history with religion...One is based on truth and other is based on belief.

MB has it's place and so does BG, Bhagavatham & Co.
MB's main arc is not BG or Bhagavatham or numerous other religious arcs..

There is a reason why Bhagavatham although happens in the same period as MB, is learnt separately.
MB is history, Bhagavatham is an ode to god...

Both MB and SB are important religious text to vedantist and vaisnavas as its central character is the god, Krishna ( not S Baba). Since MB contains BG, its constitutes an important part in vaisnava theology.

guror apy avaliptasya karyakaryam ajanatah utpatha-pratipannasya parityago vidhiyate

If the guru becomes attached to sense gratification, loses his sense of duty, and follows a degraded path, a path other than devotional service to the Lord, he should be rejected. [Mahabharata]

iti smaranat, tasya vaisnava-bhava-rahityenavaisnavataya
"avaisnavopadistena" ity-adi-vacana-visayatvac ca,

As stated in smti [in this verse from Mahabharata], when one finds that the guru is bereft of the Vaisnava mentality and showing instead the qualities of a nondevotee, one should consider him the avaisnava mentioned in the verse 밶vaisnavopadistena�.

http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/09-05/editorials52.htm

Are you really advocating that Women be Subservient to Man to make peace ?

A women is free to mock any man without fear.

If not then might as well put them in a Burkha.

by the same logic of woman's freedom, right to mock, Hindus shouldn't be whining over the disrobing. And according to your warp thinking, its morally right (dharmic) to invite and have the guest mock and humiliated in public ?

 

[PlugnPlay]

by the same logic of woman's freedom, right to mock, Hindus shouldn't be whining over the disrobing. And according to your warp thinking, its morally right (dharmic) to invite and have the guest mock and humiliated in public ?

Mocking a guest might be bad manners and poor etiquette, but its not Adharma.

Disrobing a women in public is Adharma and a crime against society and social sensibilities.

 

[Hindustani78]

Mock a guest might be bad manners and poor etiquette, but its not Adharma.

Disrobing a women in public is Adharma and a crime against society and social sensibilities.

First thing which is important here that Mahabharata war took place and this proof is enough to show who were the Aryans of Indus valley Civilization and then what type of war tactics and weapons were used by the ancient rig vedic tribes and then how many allied nations took part in the Mahabharata battles.

 

[Spring Onion]

The Dravidian here means Brahuis of Balochistan/Gedrosia area not Tamils of South India. Genetically and culturally, Brahuis differ very much from South Indian/Tamils and are pretty much indistinguishable from Balochs.
Refer to Zagros farmers paper, who were Neolithic migrants from West Asia to Mehrgarh. Modern day South Indians most likely shifted their language to Dravidian from Austro-Asiatic. Can a Bengali or Sri Lankan claim Yamnaya or some European civilization just because he speaks an Indo-European language?

And honestly, what connections do Tamils have with Sumerians/Levantines or Elamites/Iranians? They genetically differ a lot, if anything only Brahuis have that connection.



Lol, I guess they put some drugs in their fish. Now he's claiming Tamils are related to Sumerians and Elamites. Anything but Sri Lanka and Andaman Islands

hahahaha NVM we had been seeing Indian Aryan complex over the years here on many forums so they can claim anything.

It is nice to see someone after a long time who comments about history.

Welcome to the forum

 

[xairhossi]

you are just going in circles, every researcher have identified the Dravidians of IVC as Tamils not Brahuis (except Pakistani) or the so called Dravidians of S India. (Unless you can show historical and cultural evidence to validate the contrary)

None have called IVC people as genetically similar to Tamils, all they said is that they spoke a proto-Dravidian language. Dravidian is a linguistic group, just like Indo-European. Doesnt mean all Indo-Europeans or Dravidians are related.

Even if we were to accept your opinion for argument sake, the present Brahuis , are culturally and racially diluted lot. Whereas, this isn't the case with Tamils, hence your proposition that language shift is not valid.

How are Brahuis racially and culturally diluted? This makes no sense. They still live in the Indus Valley, around the area of Mehrgarh while these Tamilo-Madrasies live far away in the jungles of South India. Who is culturally diluted? People of IVC were not Australoid or with significant Onge and Andamanese genes like Tamils are. Sorry, but genetics are very clear on this.

The most like theory would be, when the Sumerians were sacked by the Gutians and other Semites around 2100 B.C, large scale SumeroTamils migrated to the sub continent and finally 'pushed' to settle in the South establishing the Tamil sangam culture.

If you are going to continue on harking about Sumerians and Elamites, tell me who do you think is genetically, phenotypically and culturally more similar to Iranians (Elamites) and Sumerians (Levantines)?
Brahuis or Tamils? Get real.

http://www.israel-a-history-of.com/dravidians-indians-and-sumerians.html

Elamite and Tamil Connection

http://www.academia.edu/7608175/Elamite_and_Tamil_Connection

This is only based on linguistics. By the same logic one can show a Sri Lankan Sinhalese and Norwegian connection because they both are Indo-European or 'Aryan'. Your Adivasi and Andamanese kin to this day live without civilization btw.

 

[manlion]

Mocking a guest might be bad manners and poor etiquette, but its not Adharma.

Disrobing a women in public is Adharma and a crime against society and social sensibilities.

I can understand your desperation to defend an act that triggered the disrobing and subsequent war, as the blame will be on the god Krishna/his queens and the Pandava gang and not Duryodhana.

Tell us in which Hindu scriptures its stated that disrobing a women is adharma and a crime ?

 

[Nilgiri]

I can understand your desperation to defend an act that triggered the disrobing and subsequent war, as the blame will be on the god Krishna/his queens and the Pandava gang and not Duryodhana.

Tell us in which Hindu scriptures its stated that disrobing a women is adharma and a crime ?

First tell us which self-declared Tamil cannot distinguish between Tamil and Kannada script?