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Sikh Light Infantry officers, soldiers clash during boxing match; 3 hurt - Rediff.com India News


Sikh Light Infantry officers, soldiers clash during boxing match; 3 hurt

October 11, 2013 14:09 IST




Officers and soldiers of the Sikh Light Infantry clashed in Meerut on Friday, leaving two officers including the second-in-command of the unit injured.

The incident took place in the 10 Sikh Light Infantry regiment during an inter-company boxing match there, sources said in New Delhi.



The Army Headquarters said a Brigadier-level officer has been tasked to conduct a Court of Inquiry into the clash.

The Lt Col, who is the second-in-command of the unit, has been hospitalised in the local military health facility after he was beaten up by the jawans after they felt they were being discriminated against, the sources said.

Army Chief Gen Bikram Singh also belongs to the Sikh LI regiment. The 10 Sikh LI is based in Delhi and is in Meerut for practice, Army officials said.

The Army tried to downplay the incident, saying in contact sports such as boxing, emotions and passions run high and sometimes result in such clashes and officers and men have not been separated.

In the last couple of years, the number of clashes between officers and jawans has gone up considerably.

On August 8, 2012, jawans agitated against the commanding officer and certain functionaries of the 16 cavalry unit in Samba, while on May 10-11, 2012, a case of manhandling involving officers and other ranks of the 226 artillery unit took place at the Mahe field firing range in Leh, he said.

On April 29, 2010, an altercation had taken place between an officer and a jawan of the 45 cavalry unit in Gurdaspur.

The army has already taken steps against its personnel in these cases and more than 200 officers and jawans have faced disciplinary or administrative action last year.

After incidents of clashes between officers and jawans, Army commanders have been told to exercise zero tolerance in such cases and exemplary punishment is promulgated to give "necessary preventive lessons" to the personnel.
 
The Sikh LI is composed primarily of scheduled caste Sikhs mainly from the Chamar & Chura castes (Ramdasia and Mazabhi). But the officers are from any caste.

It is an elite unit and well decorated unit.
 
Pathetic. This is what our defense forces has withered down to. :tdown:

This has now become a regular feature in our Army. All this in peacetime. One wonders what will happen if ever there is war.

An army full of Officers who lack moral fiber, integrity and character. This is the legacy the leadership of the Army, AF & Navy has left us. Its a long spiraling way to hell. Only hope is to pray that our enemies are just as incompetent.
 
Do they still serve that Old Monk XXX rum in army?:P

Oh yes.....if you are an officer you have a good chance to get served by your junior officers wife too.

You see Indian Army has a new caste system. Its called the IMA pass outs. These now high caste IMA 21 year old pass outs get to boss over soldiers who have spent 15 years doing their job and fighting insurgencies. Now this kind of bossing around is addictive and tends to make them believe the rest of the soldiers are there to serve their needs. You see Army jawans are often posted exclusively for officers' personal use, to polish his shoes, to cook for him.... you get the general idea. They even end up serving the officers wife and kids.

Now in earlier british days the soldiers used to suck up and get grind-ed down by these 'officers'. But today's soldiers are born in free India and they smarten up pretty quickly and realize that these officers have no real moral authority to tell them what to do. Guess what happens next ?

Of course the bureaucracy has its own high cast system called the IAS and the IPS.
 
The Sikh LI is composed primarily of scheduled caste Sikhs mainly from the Chamar & Chura castes (Ramdasia and Mazabhi). But the officers are from any caste.

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Where did you conjure this retarded theory from?

Sikhs themselves son't believe in caste system, the Pakistani punjabis do, not sikhs.
 
Where did you conjure this retarded theory from?

Sikhs themselves son't believe in caste system, the Pakistani punjabis do, not sikhs.

Bullcrap. I come from a Sikh family and I know that caste system is strong in Sikhs. Go to any village in Punjab you will find a minimum of two Gurudwaras: One of dominant village caste and one for the scheduled castes. My paternal village has 3 Gurudwaras, one for Jatts, one for Sainis and one for Chamars.

See the wikipedia entry for Sikh LI.


The Sikh Light Infantry previously known as The Mazabhi and Ramdasia Sikh Regiment is an elite[1] Regiment of the Indian Army. Its name was changed to the Sikh Light Infantry in 1944. The Sikh Light Infantry is the successor unit to the Mazhabi Sikh Pioneers 23rd, 32nd and 34th Sikh Pioneers. The Sikh Light Infantry inherited the battle honours, colours and traditions of the Mazhabi Sikh Pioneers on its merging with a few Ramdasia companies in 1941.[2]
 
Bullcrap. I come from a Sikh family and I know that caste system is strong in Sikhs. Go to any village in Punjab you will find a minimum of two Gurudwaras: One of dominant village caste and one for the scheduled castes. My paternal village has 3 Gurudwaras, one for Jatts, one for Sainis and one for Chamars.

See the wikipedia entry for Sikh LI.


The Sikh Light Infantry previously known as The Mazabhi and Ramdasia Sikh Regiment is an elite[1] Regiment of the Indian Army. Its name was changed to the Sikh Light Infantry in 1944. The Sikh Light Infantry is the successor unit to the Mazhabi Sikh Pioneers 23rd, 32nd and 34th Sikh Pioneers. The Sikh Light Infantry inherited the battle honours, colours and traditions of the Mazhabi Sikh Pioneers on its merging with a few Ramdasia companies in 1941.[2]

You are confusing panths with castes :lol:. Again, no hierarchy of higher or lower caste. One man go shouting around claiming his caste is higher but theres no religious basis is sikhism for that.

That wiki entry is for british units divided by clans, not castes. Theres the difference.
 
You are confusing panths with castes :lol:. Again, no hierarchy of higher or lower caste. One man go shouting around claiming his caste is higher but theres no religious basis is sikhism for that.

That wiki entry is for british units divided by clans, not castes. Theres the difference.

And you are in denial. There is no religious basis of castes in Sikhism, Islam and Christianity but in India, the caste system in these communities is as strong as in Hindus.

Just type "jatt vs chamar fight" in Youtube and see how the current generation of Sikhs are hating each other based on their caste.
 
Where did you conjure this retarded theory from?

Sikhs themselves son't believe in caste system, the Pakistani punjabis do, not sikhs.

I wouldn't have jumped in if you hadn't dragged Pakistan into it with stupid comment about Pakistani Punjabis - You should first go and watch Jatt vs Chamar videos on youtube
 
Oh yes.....if you are an officer you have a good chance to get served by your junior officers wife too.

You see Indian Army has a new caste system. Its called the IMA pass outs. These now high caste IMA 21 year old pass outs get to boss over soldiers who have spent 15 years doing their job and fighting insurgencies. Now this kind of bossing around is addictive and tends to make them believe the rest of the soldiers are there to serve their needs. You see Army jawans are often posted exclusively for officers' personal use, to polish his shoes, to cook for him.... you get the general idea. They even end up serving the officers wife and kids.

Now in earlier british days the soldiers used to suck up and get grind-ed down by these 'officers'. But today's soldiers are born in free India and they smarten up pretty quickly and realize that these officers have no real moral authority to tell them what to do. Guess what happens next ?

Of course the bureaucracy has its own high cast system called the IAS and the IPS.

What do you mean by getting served by junior officers wife?

And the absurd logic you are applying is bullshit.According to you a 10th class passout having 15 years of service is more qualified than a 22 year old graduate and trained in NDA and IMA?

Indian Army officers have always lead from the front unlike western armies and till date this is the reason we have such a high officer to soldier kill ratio.

Any war you take from Kargil to 1948 the Officer of the IA has performed well and lead from the front be it Vikram Batra in 99 or Somnath in 1948.
 
What do you mean by getting served by junior officers wife?

And the absurd logic you are applying is bullshit.According to you a 10th class passout having 15 years of service is more qualified than a 22 year old graduate and trained in NDA and IMA?

Indian Army officers have always lead from the front unlike western armies and till date this is the reason we have such a high officer to soldier kill ratio.

Any war you take from Kargil to 1948 the Officer of the IA has performed well and lead from the front be it Vikram Batra in 99 or Somnath in 1948.

You know what I mean.

How often do these 10th standard passout get to go for officer training ? I have heard that Indian Army is having a shortage of officers.

We can all see where the NDA passed out 'officers' have lead the IA. The first post of this thread is in their honor.
 
You know what I mean.

How often do these 10th standard passout get to go for officer training ? I have heard that Indian Army is having a shortage of officers.

We can all see where the NDA passed out 'officers' have lead the IA. The first post of this thread is in their honor.

What exactly are you implying?

You cannot generalize and form an opinion about the whole army because of such sporadic instances.

If in any way you are questioning the integrity and the values of the Indian Army i would say you are being Naive.

What do you think is the reason for the glorious past of the IA? The same officers who you seem to put the blame on. Please the same people are defending our borders with full commitment.
 

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