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Russia unhappy about China's production of J-16 fighter

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A J-16 fighter climbs during a test flight. (Internet photo)

After a satellite image revealed that Shenyang Aircraft Corporation has already produced eight J-16 multirole fighters, drawing complaints from the Russian aviation industry that its aircraft have been copied without permission, according to the Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang, a Canadian military analyst also known as Pinkov.

As the eight J-16 fighters in the image were all painted in yellow markings, the article said it remains unknown whether the aircraft will be turned over to the PLA Air Force or Navy. However, it is certain that J-16 multirole fighters will replace J-11B fighters designed for aerial combat.

China slowed down the production of fighters such as J-15, J-16 and J-11B because Russia refuses to sell more AL31F engines to Beijing, and this is the technology that China had been unable to reverse engineer. Without enough Russian-built engines, the PLA Air Force and Navy Air Force is unable to field such advanced fighters in large numbers. However, China has finally able to put its domestic Taihang engines into J-16 fighters since 2013. The reliability of the Taihang engine will be put to the ultimate test after the J-16 enters service.

Kanwa Defense Review also said reports that the J-16 is equipped with active electronically scanned array radar remain questionable. At the same time, a source from the Russian aviation industry said Russia is very unhappy about the development of the J-16 fighter as China did not gain permission from Russia to design the fighter based on the blueprint of the Russian Su-30MK2.

source: Russia unhappy about China's production of J-16 fighter|Politics|News|WantChinaTimes.com
 
It's a Russian air frame and design, of course they're unhappy. On the other hand, China is playing catch up, so why not take from the best? It's not like the Russians can do anything about it.
 
I wonder why chinese not do the same with the European products like rafale or tyfoon?!.
 
I wonder why chinese not do the same with the European products like rafale or tyfoon?!.
French and brits wont even allow Chinese to come near to their prides let alone sell them, the only way Chinese can reverse engineer them if they manage to get the blue prints.

We have the example of J10 based on lavi a supposed replacement of F16 for Israelis.
 
russians are fool enough to sell military hardware to the chinese, who are known worldwide as copycats, have no respect for someone's hard labour :D
 
russians are fool enough to sell military hardware to the chinese, who are known worldwide as copycats, have no respect for someone's hard labour :D

yes, this is the only way to create a distrust between russia and china.
 
Dont the chinese have a plane that looks similar to f 35 ? can someone tell me the name?
 
French and brits wont even allow Chinese to come near to their prides let alone sell them, the only way Chinese can reverse engineer them if they manage to get the blue prints.


Same as Israelis, Europeans got absolutely no problem selling China weapons, the only problem is US pressure. France and Germany have proposed several times to lift the arms embargo on China.
 
Russia unhappy about China's production of J-16 fighter

J16-173822_copy1.jpg

A J-16 fighter climbs during a test flight. (Internet photo)

After a satellite image revealed that Shenyang Aircraft Corporation has already produced eight J-16 multirole fighters, drawing complaints from the Russian aviation industry that its aircraft have been copied without permission, according to the Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang, a Canadian military analyst also known as Pinkov.

As the eight J-16 fighters in the image were all painted in yellow markings, the article said it remains unknown whether the aircraft will be turned over to the PLA Air Force or Navy. However, it is certain that J-16 multirole fighters will replace J-11B fighters designed for aerial combat.

China slowed down the production of fighters such as J-15, J-16 and J-11B because Russia refuses to sell more AL31F engines to Beijing, and this is the technology that China had been unable to reverse engineer. Without enough Russian-built engines, the PLA Air Force and Navy Air Force is unable to field such advanced fighters in large numbers. However, China has finally able to put its domestic Taihang engines into J-16 fighters since 2013. The reliability of the Taihang engine will be put to the ultimate test after the J-16 enters service.

Kanwa Defense Review also said reports that the J-16 is equipped with active electronically scanned array radar remain questionable. At the same time, a source from the Russian aviation industry said Russia is very unhappy about the development of the J-16 fighter as China did not gain permission from Russia to design the fighter based on the blueprint of the Russian Su-30MK2.

source: Russia unhappy about China's production of J-16 fighter|Politics|News|WantChinaTimes.com


So you put chocolate candy in front of a kid.

Kid eats it.

And you become unhappy that he ate it.

What kind of logic is that?
 
French and brits wont even allow Chinese to come near to their prides let alone sell them, the only way Chinese can reverse engineer them if they manage to get the blue prints.

We have the example of J10 based on lavi a supposed replacement of F16 for Israelis.

Lavi was not the an F-16 replacement. It was an F-4 replacement. Israel stopped working on it due to pressure from the US. In fact the US gave about a dozen or more F-16 as compensation for making them stop their Lavi project.
 
So if India copies su-30 design or Pakistan copies f-16 design, do you think its justified?

Are you making a photo copy? I am sure they'll be ok with it. If you are talking about building it, neither country has so much infrastructure and capability to copy produce anything like the -16 or the SU-30. Plus Russia has a LOT more interests with China than it does with India (Strategic interests), they already consider India gone to West. So you might get the Russians really upset if you copied their stuff.
 
Are you making a photo copy? I am sure they'll be ok with it. If you are talking about building it, neither country has so much infrastructure and capability to copy produce anything like the -16 or the SU-30. Plus Russia has a LOT more interests with China than it does with India (Strategic interests), they already consider India gone to West. So you might get the Russians really upset if you copied their stuff.

Actually Russia is still our close partner who offered us use of their version of GPS how much more can we share? they provided us a nuclear submarine akula 2 would the yanks give us a n sub? I think not
 

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