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It is interesting to see how the big powers in Europe split Eastern Europe into zones of interest. Romania and Moldova was given to France, hence why most Romanian companies were sold to French companies, and now this. Nice to see them being obvious about it.
Ultimately, all wars about $$$. We find out years or decades later who benefited and how. And we sure will find out about this war too. But what damn tribal people! In case of countries like India and Pakistan, with their ethnic diversity, there would be probably 200+ countries in India and Pakistan's geographical borders if nationalism were to go to such extremes as in Europe! Maybe some who above made the right point: Uncle Sam's NATO is needed to keep the European tribalism in check!

True up to a point. This war is media driven and ThatGuy is right that Russian media is no match for Western media.

However, when the economic impact hits Europe, the Western media's job will become harder as the public looks for excuses to exit the war. The public will become receptive to the interpretation that Ukraine is being used by the US, and that Europe has now joined Africa and the Middle East as the meat grinder for the super powers' proxy wars.

Europe--which would be nothing without Germany and France-- could yet again become a pawn in the hands of the Anglos. Colonel Macgregor keeps saying that.

The only obstacle is Russia does not trusts Zalensky and all these proposal of talks is to buy him more time.

Russia as per Sergei Lavrov believes Zalensky cannot make any decision on his own as he is just a puppet of the US and NATO.

And I don't blame Russia.
Look at what happened to the peace talks in Turkey. A complete waste of time.

Zelensky has real time intelligence data, special troops protecting him, while hiding deep down in some bunker a lot of time and media people projecting him as some modern day Che Guevara with rough appearance, simple clothes and the new beard. A very carefully crafted image!! But he is so self assured only because he knows who are his backers: The mightiest and the richest military alliance in human history. Remove that from his backing and see.... He would have almost certainly ran away within a short time or would have meted the fate of President Amin when the Soviets started invasion of Afghanistan around Christmas 1979...
 
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Europe--which would be nothing without Germany and France-- could yet again become a pawn in the hands of the Anglos. Colonel Macgregor keeps saying that.

It is working right now and will continue for a while but European nationalism will reassert itself sooner or later. The whole entire point of the EU, led by Germany and France, was to make Europe independent of the US post WW2.

The US diplomats have their work cut out for them being the actual boss but making France and Germany think they are masters of their own destiny.
 
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Russia to Cut Gas to Poland and Bulgaria, Making Energy a Weapon​

  • Focus now turns to how other European capitals will respond
  • Moscow demands gas be paid for in rubles after new decree

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Maciej Onoszko,
Maciej Martewicz, and
Slav Okov
April 26, 2022, 11:20 PM GMT+8Updated onApril 27, 2022, 4:18 AM GMT+8

Russia will cut off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday in a major escalation in the standoff between Moscow and Europe over energy supplies and the war in Ukraine.
Moscow is making good on a threat to halt gas flows to countries that refuse President Vladimir Putin’s new demand to pay for the fuel in rubles. The European Union has rejected the move in principle but now payment deadlines are starting to fall due, governments across Europe need to decide whether to accept Putin’s terms or lose crucial supplies -- and face the prospect of energy rationing.
European gas prices surged as much as 17% as traders calculated the risk of other European countries being hit next.


“This is a turning point that has been accelerated by Russia today,” said Piotr Naimski, Poland’s top official for strategic energy infrastructure.

Share of natural gas imports coming from Russia, 2020​



Sources: Eurostat, U.S. Energy Information Administration, Austria's Ministry of Climate Protection
Note: Data for 2020 are not available for the U.K. and Bosnia-Herzegovina, 2019 data are shown in those countries. Norway imported 10 million cubic meters of gas from Russia in 2020, but as a net exporter is not dependent on Russian imports.

The threat of cutoffs has been looming for weeks, but there was an indication last week that the EU was suggesting a potential way out of the standoff. The move against bloc members Poland and Bulgaria probably makes some kind of compromise less likely. It also removes from the EU’s toolkit the option of sanctioning Russian gas.

“The decision of Russia to stop gas supplies to Poland and Bulgaria represents an historical turning point in the bilateral energy relationship and might well represent the preview of similar moves coming up vis-a-vis other European countries in coming weeks,” said Simone Tagliapietra, a researcher at the Bruegel think tank. “European governments now need to deploy all emergency measures they have at their disposal, both on the supply and demand side to ensure security of supply.”

Payment Schedules​

The first ruble payments are due in late April and May, though companies’ individual payment schedules have not been disclosed. Polish news outlet Onet.pl reported earlier that the deadline for Poland’s main gas company PGNiG’s fell on Friday, and Gazprom said on Tuesday the payment was due immediately.


Other companies have more time and European governments and executives are in many cases still trying to figure out how best to respond. The EU last week suggested that companies continue to pay in euros, and seek possible exemptions from Moscow to the decree.

The decree demands companies set up two accounts, one in a foreign currency and one in rubles, with Gazprombank. The Russian bank would convert the foreign currency payments into rubles before transferring the payment to Gazprom PJSC, the state-owned gas company.

“The Polish example suggests that those buyers that will not accept the new mechanism or will not secure an exemption from it are likely to see their supplies cut as well if no payment has reached Gazprom’s account when it is due,” Yafimava said.

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lol nice

so no one want to pay in toilet currency i guess

nato has to keep helping ukraine to carry attach inside russia

This is the reason why the West is panicking. The Russian missile and aerial assaults on bridges and railways plus the troops freed from Mariupol have shown the West that they're in a losing game.

Second, the Ukrainian forces on the front-line are collapsing as relentless Russian aerial assaults are having a huge impact.

Lastly, there is a division within NATO camp on how far they want to push it. Germany and France don't seem to be enthusiastic about prolonged conflict, plus Switzerland, Hungry, and Austria are also maintaining their neutrality. the Russians themselves are also not only fighting on the military front, but they're starting to use their energy exports to inflict pain on the West. We're already seeing the cracks in the Western camp.
let us know the drugs u taking ha ha

 
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Any thing with range longer than 300km will be the violation of set world order and MTCR?
Yes but 300km is really sufficient for Ukraine's needs in this war. All the Russian supply depots and fuel would be within range because Russia needs them close to the war.

Is a new front opening up in Moldova breakaway region? @The SC @Ich @Hassan Al-Somal




No its a feint. Russians are making way too big a deal of this to distract the fighting that's going on in Kherson where the Russians are trying to launch an offensive attack while dealing with Ukrainian counter offensive. They want to distract Ukrainian forces in and around Odessa from helping the Kherson operations. If the Russians do decide to really do something this stupid to sacrifice a small Russian force to get to Odessa, they be in a big surprise and get wiped out. I mean heck at least it gets rid of the Russian forces that's surrounding Ukraine on that side.
 
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The problem is Ukraine doesn't use Russian 152mm, Ukraine uses own 152mm cased ammo. Russian 152mm uses separately loaded charges.

Ukraine has another problem, they don't have short range 152mm rounds, only full power, and 70% power rounds.

Ukrainian 152mm is army division level, while Russian 152mm is regimental.
First time I heard of that. They used the same weapons as the Russians and should be using the same ammo with separately loaded charges for artillery. Didn't know about Ukraine's cased ammo type.
 
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Sure. We will see soon enough. It seems Poland isn't the only one in the plan. Other parts of Europe are also in it.

Russia should also stop all movement of Russian grain and oil seeds and cooking oil to any countries supplying arms to Ukraine Nazis


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Germany recently gives Ukraine 2 billion euros. That’s not little. The reason why Germany is hesitant in providing mass of tanks and artillery is Olaf Scholz. he is a weakling.
If Germany is hesitant to provide heavy weaponry at least give them more helmets, body armor, rifles, night vision, etc. as well as other basic supplies for infantry which is what is needed for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian troops.
 
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War is more than a numbers game.

If it was just a numbers game than Russia would have already have taken the north .But a handful of Ukrainians armed mainly with bravery , javelins and NLAWS , managed to make them turn tail.

Don't know why you want to undermine the effect of all those weapons suppled to Ukraine.

I don't know of a time in history where so many countries sent aid to one country at war. More than 50 countries suppled aid , more than 30 countries are supplying military aid.


And some of the stuff they are getting is the most advanced weapon systems in the world. If they had managed at the beginning of the war with so little , one can presume they would do a lot better now.


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Looool yes Ukraine is winning on TV but losing on the ground.
The agreement between Russia and Ukraine to withdraw from Kiev was spun into victory on TV. But the again operation desert shield turned to desert storm and no one noticed. Most people just lap un anything they see in the media. Eg Russians were killing the people in the cinema building in maripol and turns out the surviors coming out of the building when interview said it was the nazi battalion of Ukraine that was keeping them in the building and Russians freed them.

Don't get me wrong. Russia should NOT have invaded Ukraine but the blame is 100% at Ukraine door. For 25years it was asked to keep nato away from Russian border and Russia won't stand for it. Now enjoy.

Who would think a jew at the head of Ukraine would supply weapons to nazi Ukrainian units fighting Russia. Oh the irony
 
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It is working right now and will continue for a while but European nationalism will reassert itself sooner or later. The whole entire point of the EU, led by Germany and France, was to make Europe independent of the US post WW2.

The US diplomats have their work cut out for them being the actual boss but making France and Germany think they are masters of their own destiny.
One of the biggest mistakes for Germany was reducing its nuclear energy and relying more on Russian gas and oil supply. Big mistake on that part and that is forcing Germany to be sitting on the fence. Even hesitant enough to provide 5k helmets.
 
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If Germany is hesitant to provide heavy weaponry at least give them more helmets, body armor, rifles, night vision, etc. as well as other basic supplies for infantry which is what is needed for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian troops.
More heavy weapons from Germany will go to Ukraine it’s just a question of when. The more brutal this war the quicker. Olaf Scholz is seen by many as too weak. He fears Ukraine would be emboldened launching offensives taking back Donbas and Crime. Putin would retaliate with nuclear weapons. NATO would intervene the world goes to nuclear holocaust, we are all dead. Germany has put 100 billion euros aside for extra weapon purchases.
 
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