Rising divorce rates in Pakistan

[Trango Towers]

I am a male myself, how can I have a blind hatred for men?
emotional abuse is highly improbable due to the fact that male should be mature enough to handle tough situations, they should not be cry babies, like in drama serials


because parents have suffered, they think it is the "norm" and it is "alright" that is why the enforce is saying "they know what is best for their children"

that's the problem they don't knows whats best for their children....if they knew they wouldn't mess up the kids lives

 

[Fledgingwings]

i don't know rest but they are not your friends they are asteen ke saanp

My thought Exactly ! Looks like they no longer like me being happy !

 

[Pak-Punjabi]

Given that most of the marriage particularly in lower classes are simply convenient prostitution arranged parents and elders..divorce is a good thing..it means people are waking up to their consciousness and wanting escape from slavery imposed upon them by elders..

What do you think love marriage is? All other things like ethnicity and religion being equal, love marriage is a man wanting the prettiest woman he can get vs the highest value man a woman's beauty can afford.

"Love" that male perceive it is an ILLUSION. Let me tell you a woman does NOT NOT NOT love you for what a cool, funny guy you are & make her feel special with your words. She needs PRIMARILY security i.e. $ then social status. Baqi "personality" waghaira baad mein. Even if she is well off herself she always seeks someone higher up the ladder. We are not just different in physical terms, but how we are programmed to think. You should see how women dump their men here when they lose their jobs. Just like that. It isn't something she thinks about. You know how men subconsciously stare at women? It is default behaviour, same with women. I can back what I am saying with studies where #1 thing women associate love with is $$$. Nothing wrong with this, it is how God made us.

Even the religious Muslim girls in the West who have the option to choose whom they marry. How many do you think that are engineers, doctors, business professionals marry a guy who has great Imaan & can support a family however drives a Truck (pays well in West)???

Remember, don't look at what a woman says, her words. Look at what she does.

LOL divorce is not a good thing. The breakdown of family is not good it is sad.

p.s. Not attacking you just sharing my point of view.

 

[Metanoia]

@Desert Fox Check this out whenever you've some time. Quite interesting.

PS: He's a Muslim. Good talk on Hypergamy.

 

[Trango Towers]

good, the women are starting to speak up against abusive relationships

I don't agree with arranged marraige for this reason. Whole life because your parents thought you are suitable.....lol. one only has to judge the achievements of a typical parent to know it will end in disaster

rising divorce rates everywhere is just a chall of few liberal elements who have hijacked many facets of social life.. this. is the liberal virus

So if thinks just liberal why did divorce happen at the time of our beloved prophet. Why has Allah allowed it even though he hates it. Please be careful what you say. Have a nice day

 

[Desert Fox]

@Desert Fox Check this out whenever you've some time. Quite interesting.

PS: He's a Muslim. Good talk on Hypergamy.

Yes, he makes good points. But honestly he's just describing the problem and not offering any credible solutions.

You can still get married without registering with the government. If two people genuinely like each other and want to get married then they should have this discussion, agree on prenups, how to settle potential disagreements in marriage, etc.

So if thinks just liberal why did divorce happen at the time of our beloved prophet. Why has Allah allowed it even though he hates it. Please

Then why didn't Prophet Muhammad (SAW) divorce any of his wives if divorce is such a good thing? Afterall what better example of a Momin is there besides him (SAW)?

Also, divorce is something that is done as a last resort in the case of either spouse not fulfilling the rights of the other. You don't divorce someone because he can't buy you a certain car, house or diamond ring (in the case of a girl) or because she doesn't perform a certain sexual act on you that you saw on some pornographic video (in the case of a guy).

Most people divorce over superficial things these days.

I don't agree with arranged marraige for this reason. Whole life because your parents thought you are suitable.....lol. one only has to judge the achievements of a typical parent to know it will end in disaster

Love marriages have a have a higher failure rate than arranged marriages.

Arranged marriage =\= Forced marriage

Also, in the West where majority marriages are Love marriages the divorce rate is more than 50% and more than 75% of the divorce is initiated by the woman.

@Psychic @Ocean @HAIDER

 

[Trango Towers]

Yes, he makes good points. But honestly he's just describing the problem and not offering any credible solutions.

You can still get married without registering with the government. If two people genuinely like each other and want to get married then they should have this discussion, agree on prenups, how to settle potential disagreements in marriage, etc.


Then why didn't Prophet Muhammad (SAW) divorce any of his wives if divorce is such a good thing? Afterall what better example of a Momin is there besides him (SAW)?

Also, divorce is something that is done as a last resort in the case of either spouse not fulfilling the rights of the other. You don't divorce someone because he can't buy you a certain car, house or diamond ring (in the case of a girl) or because she doesn't perform a certain sexual act on you that you saw on some pornographic video (in the case of a guy).

Most people divorce over superficial things these days.


Love marriages have a have a higher failure rate than arranged marriages.

Arranged marriage =\= Forced marriage

Also, in the West where majority marriages are Love marriages the divorce rate is more than 50% and more than 75% of the divorce is initiated by the woman.

@Psychic @Ocean @HAIDER

Youbwrote all that and yet quoted me....but didn't rad the bit.....he slows it even though he hates it.

Now would would the prophet divorce his wives if he was fine with them? Why would anyone divorce of they are getting on....
I just don't get your reasoning. Are you just arguing for nothing???

 

[Desert Fox]

Youbwrote all that and yet quoted me....but didn't rad the bit....

Actually I read everything you wrote and I found it to be nonsensical.

he slows it even though he hates it.

And only under extreme circumstances as I already pointed out, and not for the reason you claimed (arranged marriages) which was really silly.

Now would would the prophet divorce his wives if he was fine with them?

You were the one who tried to justify divorce by bringing up the Prophet (SAW) so the onus is on you to prove that divorce is a good thing, and if it is a good thing why didn't the Prophet (SAW) divorce any of his wives.

I just don't get your reasoning

Of course you don't, I make too much sense for you.

Are you just arguing for nothing???

You made a silly claim and I refuted it. If you cannot handle that then don't post on a public forum.

 

[Trango Towers]

Actually I read everything you wrote and I found it to be nonsensical.


And only under extreme circumstances as I already pointed out, and not for the reason you claimed (arranged marriages) which was really silly.

You were the one who tried to justify divorce by bringing up the Prophet (SAW) so the onus is on you to prove that divorce is a good thing, and if it is a good thing why didn't the Prophet (SAW) divorce any of his wives.

Of course you don't, I make too much sense for you.

You made a silly claim and I refuted it. If you cannot handle that then don't post on a public forum.

Ok I see from your writing that arguing for the sake of arguing is your goal here. Enjoy.
Clearly you didn't understand what I was saying to the chap and you jumped on the riotous bandwagon.
You the the holiest and the most knowlegable here everyone else is as you say nonsensical. Happy. Now go finish your fast. Don't get divorced

 

[Desert Fox]

Ok I see from your writing that arguing for the sake of arguing is your goal here. Enjoy.
Clearly you didn't understand what I was saying to the chap and you jumped on the riotous bandwagon.
You the the holiest and the most knowlegable here everyone else is as you say nonsensical. Happy. Now go finish your fast. Don't get divorced

I see you're running away after I tore your silly argument apart that arranged marriages = divorce even though statistically love marriages have a higher divorce rate (Western divorce statistics prove this).

Fine by me. Just don't complain when others quote you on a public forum

 

[Reichsmarschall]

 

[Metanoia]

Yes, he makes good points. But honestly he's just describing the problem and not offering any credible solutions.

There's no credible solution for the human nature, especially women. AWALT.

You can still get married without registering with the government.

In the context of the Western world, there are certain countries whereby mere cohabitation with your S/O will sufficiently lead her to take you to the cleaners. Commonwealth law.

Re-read and reconsider your attachment. Honour belongs to only The One God.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Women talk shows = Divorce
Indian movies = Divorce

The promotion of fake world and fake ideals is the main culprit of false expectations

 

[HAIDER]

Yes, he makes good points. But honestly he's just describing the problem and not offering any credible solutions.

You can still get married without registering with the government. If two people genuinely like each other and want to get married then they should have this discussion, agree on prenups, how to settle potential disagreements in marriage, etc.


Then why didn't Prophet Muhammad (SAW) divorce any of his wives if divorce is such a good thing? Afterall what better example of a Momin is there besides him (SAW)?

Also, divorce is something that is done as a last resort in the case of either spouse not fulfilling the rights of the other. You don't divorce someone because he can't buy you a certain car, house or diamond ring (in the case of a girl) or because she doesn't perform a certain sexual act on you that you saw on some pornographic video (in the case of a guy).

Most people divorce over superficial things these days.


Love marriages have a have a higher failure rate than arranged marriages.

Arranged marriage =\= Forced marriage

Also, in the West where majority marriages are Love marriages the divorce rate is more than 50% and more than 75% of the divorce is initiated by the woman.

@Psychic @Ocean @HAIDER

I have noticed , if you analyze any divorce case, you will find major reason behind is peer pressure and usually issue is very minor. Which can be mutually resolved if both sit togather in privacy .
My father advice everyone and love to share with you guys too. " Husband and wife never let there personal issues out of door step. Moment issue cross your door step , trouble comes in. " ... once a divorced is done, all those peer not only disappear they end up blaming husband and wife for there wrong decision. So, whenever in life if anyone from married couple dry discuss or complaint about spouse behavior on serious note, always ignore and tell them its normal in life. Until or unless something serious.
As far as Holy Prophet PBUM marriages , we ll dicuss this issue later .

 

[Desert Fox]

I have noticed , if you analyze any divorce case, you will find major reason behind is peer pressure and usually issue is very minor. Which can be mutually resolved if both sit togather in privacy .
My father advice everyone and love to share with you guys too. " Husband and wife never let there personal issues out of door step. Moment issue cross your door step , trouble comes in. " ... once a divorced is done, all those peer not only disappear they end up blaming husband and wife for there wrong decision. So, whenever in life if anyone from married couple dry discuss or complaint about spouse behavior on serious note, always ignore and tell them its normal in life. Until or unless something serious.
As far as Holy Prophet PBUM marriages , we ll dicuss this issue later .

Yes, your father is correct, similar advice has been given by elders in my family too. Most people want to add fuel to the fire and watch from the sidelines. People want drama rather than reconciliation between husband and wife.