Revealed: Trump's $110 billion weapons list for the Saudis

[Saif al-Arab]

when oil and money has gone next generations of arabs will curse of this generation

When that happens the Arab world will have a several trillion big GDP. KSA alone is predicted to have a 5 trillion big GDP (nominal) by 2050 and the world's 12th largest economy.

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf

You do the remaining math.

ok enlighten the topic, give link to that company so we can update our thoughts about your defence tech.

There are countless of threads in the Arab section of PDF, despite the few active Arab users here on PDF, that will educate you. Including a thread called "made in KSA". Visit that thread and the many other threads and then talk.

If that is not enough you can visit the many Arabic defense forums.

http://defense-arab.com/vb/

https://forums.arabmilitary.com/fegyarmy/3-الأخبار-العسكرية-military-news/

http://www.arabic-army.com

http://army-tech.net/forum/index.php

http://www.defense-arabic.com

http://nsaforum.com/forum/

etc.

he is right you want in 10 years to develop defence industry that take 40 years to country to develop
non arab country did it


not if oil stay that way

You don't know what you are blabbering about.

Read the report and then bark.

 

[theman111]

When that happens the Arab world will have a several trillion big GDP. KSA alone is predicted to have a 5 trillion big GDP (nominal) by 2050 and the world's 12th largest economy.

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf

You do the remaining math.



There are countless of threads in the Arab section of PDF, despite the few active Arab users here on PDF, that will educate you. Including a thread called "made in KSA". Visit that thread and the many other threads and then talk.

If that is not enough you can visit the many Arabic defense forums.

http://defense-arab.com/vb/

https://forums.arabmilitary.com/fegyarmy/3-الأخبار-العسكرية-military-news/

http://www.arabic-army.com

http://army-tech.net/forum/index.php

http://www.defense-arabic.com

http://nsaforum.com/forum/



You don't know what you are blabbering about.

Read the report and then bark.

made by ksa most of it is build in license show me something saudi arabia develop alone

 

[Khan_patriot]

I am not going to waste my time with barking and ignorant low IQ Gypsies who live in a failed state (all objective data confirming this regardless of your crying or not) compared to the holy land that you are insulting. This holy land and its native people will keep progressing on every front like they do every day. There is nothing that you can do about this expect for crying on a internet forum.

What are you implying, everyone knw that the Arabs of today are the tribulation for humanity in general and the ummah I'm specific?
Had it not been for the holy sites KSA would not have been relevent to the ummah at all.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What are you implying, everyone knw that the Arabs of today are the tribulation for humanity in general and the ummah I'm specific?
Had it not been for the holy sites KSA would not have been relevent to the ummah at all.

What are you blabbering about? What is today KSA and Arabia as a whole is the cradle of Islam. The religious and cultural center of the Islamic world along with the Arab world as a whole. It's the religious, linguistic, ancestral, architectural and cultural bastion of the Arab world and the 500 + million Arabs. Let's forget Islamic history too and all the countless of personalities and dynasties from Arabia or with ancestral ties to Arabia that changed Islamic history and enriched it forever from scholars, scientists, poets, most well-known military generals, rulers let alone Prophets etc.

What you are saying makes as much sense as claiming that KSA is a irrelevant country today.

made by ksa most of it is build in license show me something saudi arabia develop alone

Show me something that Israel has developed from scratch without using previous known knowledge and without cooperating with anyone. Not only that those who developed such a thing must only have been educated in Israel and only cooperated with Israelis. You cannot mention even 1 such example. There is a limit to how many times you can reinvent the wheel. KSA has just started this process and is developing nicely. That's all that matters. You can ignore the evidence on the ground or the facts mentioned in the detailed article that Science published (one of the most respected magazines in their field) 1 year ago. Not my problem.

 

[The SC]

Damn!
Somebody explain me, how a milky cow could be milked?
They are actually getting nothing but a bunch of howitzers, outdated naval ships and upgrades.

Even Pakistan could operate these upgradation on it's own however took some time.

@The SC F-23? !!

These goons translated the true meaning of milky cow!!!

Revealed: Trump's $110 billion weapons list for the Saudis

WASHINGTON – The administration's much touted $110 billion arms proposal to Saudi Arabia, previously slim on specifics, includes seven THAAD missile defense batteries, over 100,000 air-to-ground munitions and billions of dollars’ worth of new aircraft, according to a White House document obtained by Defense News and authenticated by a second source.

President Donald Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia on May 20 drew headlines for what was billed as a $110 billion arms agreement. However, experts quickly pointed out that much of the deal was speculative, as any arms sale has to go through the process of being cleared by the State Department, then Congress, before going through an often lengthy negotiating period with industry.

The document does, however, reveal the different buckets that make up the $110 billion figure, including “LOAs to be offered at visit,” or letters of agreement that the Kingdom has already requested and the Trump administration supports, totaling $12.5 billion as well as the ten-year sustainment estimates on those programs, totaling $1.18 billion.

Of course, these totals are best-guess estimations and likely represent the ceiling for what could be spent. The figures may well come down, and the timeframes listed may well change, based on final negotiations around the equipment.

The largest pot of money involves the “MOIs to be offered at visit” section, totaling $84.8 billion. That section represents potential sales, or memos of intent, that the Trump team offered to the Saudis while in Riyadh.

Among those listed as potential sales are:

• $13.5 billion for seven THAAD batteries, with an estimated delivery time of 2023-2026.
• $4.46 billion for 104,000 air-to-ground munitions, divided amongst five types (GBU 31v3, GBU-10, GBU-12, GBU-31v1, GBU-38).
• $6.65 billion for enhancements to Saudis’ Patriot anti-missile system, with a scope of work from 2018-2027.
• $2 billion for “light close air support” aircraft, with the aircraft and delivery date still unknown. It is possible that the winner of this contract could be related to the U.S. Air Force’s OA-X close-air support study.
• $2 billion for four new aircraft, of a to-be-determined variety, for “TASS & Strategic ISC.” TASS stands for “tactical airborne surveillance system,” similar in concept to the U.S. Air Force JSTARS system. It's possible the replacement could be the same as the JSTARS replacement currently being considered by the Pentagon. Those would be delivered in 2024.
• $5.8 billion for three KC-130J and 20 C-130J new aircraft, along with sustainment through 2026. Those planes would start delivery in 2022.
• $6.25 billion for an eight-year sustainment deal for Saudi Arabia's fleet of F-15 fighters, with another $20 million for an F-15 C/D recapitalization program study.
• $2 billion for an unknown number of MK-VI Patrol Boats, with an unknown delivery date.
• $6 billion for four Lockheed Martin-built frigates, based on the company’s littoral combat ship design. That order falls under the Saudi Naval Expansion Program II (SNEP II) heading, with planned delivery in the 2025-2028 timeframe.
• $2.35 billion to modify 400 existing Bradley fighting vehicles, along with another $1.35 for 213 new vehicles.
• $1.5 billion for 180 Howitzers, with an estimated delivery time of 2019-2022.
• $18 billion for C4I System and integration, with no further details given on what that means, nor with a delivery date offered.

The document also shows a focus on space capabilities for the Kingdom, with two “Remote Sensing Satellites” estimated at $800 million and two satellite communications & Space Based Early Warning Systems estimated at $4 billion. It also includes a notably high $40 million mark for a “SATCOM Definitization” meeting with the Office of the Secretary of Defense-Space policy team.

The list also includes two types of Lockheed Martin Black Hawk variants: 14 MH-60R Seahawk rotorcraft ($2 billion) and 30 UH-60 rescue helicopters ($1.8 billion). It is possible the rescue helicopters could be the same design as the Air Force’s new combat rescue helicopter, the HH-60W.

A Lockheed Martin press release, issued after Trump’s meeting in Riyadh, said the world’s largest defense firm was forming a joint venture with Saudi company Taqnia to “support final assembly and completion of an estimated 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters for the Saudi government.”

Sustainment estimates for the MOI list comes in around $930 million.

Meanwhile, a planned vote in the Senate that would challenge parts of the Saudi package was postponed until next week, per Connecticut Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy.

Just this week, two more orders were announced as having cleared the State Department, deals for 26 AN/TPQ-53(V) Radar Systems ($662 million) and a blanket order training program for the Royal Saudi Air Force ($750 million). Both of those count against the $110 billion figure, a source with knowledge of the agreements said.

A White House spokesman deferred comment to the Pentagon. Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Roger Cabiness said in a statement that the "arms sale announced between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia is a broad agreement in principal," adding that "steps include letters of intent, letters of offer, letters of approval, awarding of contract, and delivery. As the terms of these sales are finalized, we will notify Congress and make public the specifics of each transaction."

http://www.defensenews.com/articles...-delivery-in-spring-2018-likely-not-this-year

And this is just a partial list!
There are also up to 12 Poseidon Maritime patrol and anti sub airplanes as well as Naval or land AEGIS.. and every sale has ToT as a requirement.. Where else can anyone get these Quality systems?..and with ToT, Quality and Quantity of this quality..the best of the two worlds.. it has a price though and KSA was able and willing to pay it.. a smart and wise move..considering that the Iran Iraq war costed around $1 trillion dollars in the 80s that translates to at least $3 to$4 trillion now a days.. Thus $400 billion is not much in comparison to a similar potential war it helps to prevent..
And there is much more deals behind the scenes, be it in the military field or the civilian one..

So, what milking are you talking about?

 

[Flag_Combo]

Revealed: Trump's $110 billion weapons list for the Saudis

WASHINGTON – The administration's much touted $110 billion arms proposal to Saudi Arabia, previously slim on specifics, includes seven THAAD missile defense batteries, over 100,000 air-to-ground munitions and billions of dollars’ worth of new aircraft, according to a White House document obtained by Defense News and authenticated by a second source.

President Donald Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia on May 20 drew headlines for what was billed as a $110 billion arms agreement. However, experts quickly pointed out that much of the deal was speculative, as any arms sale has to go through the process of being cleared by the State Department, then Congress, before going through an often lengthy negotiating period with industry.

The document does, however, reveal the different buckets that make up the $110 billion figure, including “LOAs to be offered at visit,” or letters of agreement that the Kingdom has already requested and the Trump administration supports, totaling $12.5 billion as well as the ten-year sustainment estimates on those programs, totaling $1.18 billion.

Of course, these totals are best-guess estimations and likely represent the ceiling for what could be spent. The figures may well come down, and the timeframes listed may well change, based on final negotiations around the equipment.

The largest pot of money involves the “MOIs to be offered at visit” section, totaling $84.8 billion. That section represents potential sales, or memos of intent, that the Trump team offered to the Saudis while in Riyadh.

Among those listed as potential sales are:

• $13.5 billion for seven THAAD batteries, with an estimated delivery time of 2023-2026.
• $4.46 billion for 104,000 air-to-ground munitions, divided amongst five types (GBU 31v3, GBU-10, GBU-12, GBU-31v1, GBU-38).
• $6.65 billion for enhancements to Saudis’ Patriot anti-missile system, with a scope of work from 2018-2027.
• $2 billion for “light close air support” aircraft, with the aircraft and delivery date still unknown. It is possible that the winner of this contract could be related to the U.S. Air Force’s OA-X close-air support study.
• $2 billion for four new aircraft, of a to-be-determined variety, for “TASS & Strategic ISC.” TASS stands for “tactical airborne surveillance system,” similar in concept to the U.S. Air Force JSTARS system. It's possible the replacement could be the same as the JSTARS replacement currently being considered by the Pentagon. Those would be delivered in 2024.
• $5.8 billion for three KC-130J and 20 C-130J new aircraft, along with sustainment through 2026. Those planes would start delivery in 2022.
• $6.25 billion for an eight-year sustainment deal for Saudi Arabia's fleet of F-15 fighters, with another $20 million for an F-15 C/D recapitalization program study.
• $2 billion for an unknown number of MK-VI Patrol Boats, with an unknown delivery date.
• $6 billion for four Lockheed Martin-built frigates, based on the company’s littoral combat ship design. That order falls under the Saudi Naval Expansion Program II (SNEP II) heading, with planned delivery in the 2025-2028 timeframe.
• $2.35 billion to modify 400 existing Bradley fighting vehicles, along with another $1.35 for 213 new vehicles.
• $1.5 billion for 180 Howitzers, with an estimated delivery time of 2019-2022.
• $18 billion for C4I System and integration, with no further details given on what that means, nor with a delivery date offered.

The document also shows a focus on space capabilities for the Kingdom, with two “Remote Sensing Satellites” estimated at $800 million and two satellite communications & Space Based Early Warning Systems estimated at $4 billion. It also includes a notably high $40 million mark for a “SATCOM Definitization” meeting with the Office of the Secretary of Defense-Space policy team.

The list also includes two types of Lockheed Martin Black Hawk variants: 14 MH-60R Seahawk rotorcraft ($2 billion) and 30 UH-60 rescue helicopters ($1.8 billion). It is possible the rescue helicopters could be the same design as the Air Force’s new combat rescue helicopter, the HH-60W.

A Lockheed Martin press release, issued after Trump’s meeting in Riyadh, said the world’s largest defense firm was forming a joint venture with Saudi company Taqnia to “support final assembly and completion of an estimated 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters for the Saudi government.”

Sustainment estimates for the MOI list comes in around $930 million.

Meanwhile, a planned vote in the Senate that would challenge parts of the Saudi package was postponed until next week, per Connecticut Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy.

Just this week, two more orders were announced as having cleared the State Department, deals for 26 AN/TPQ-53(V) Radar Systems ($662 million) and a blanket order training program for the Royal Saudi Air Force ($750 million). Both of those count against the $110 billion figure, a source with knowledge of the agreements said.

A White House spokesman deferred comment to the Pentagon. Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Roger Cabiness said in a statement that the "arms sale announced between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia is a broad agreement in principal," adding that "steps include letters of intent, letters of offer, letters of approval, awarding of contract, and delivery. As the terms of these sales are finalized, we will notify Congress and make public the specifics of each transaction."

http://www.defensenews.com/articles...-delivery-in-spring-2018-likely-not-this-year

And this is just a partial list!
There are also up to 12 Poseidon Maritime patrol and anti sub airplanes as well as Naval or land AEGIS.. and every sale has ToT as a requirement.. Where else can anyone get these Quality systems?..and with ToT, Quality and Quantity of this quality..the best of the two worlds.. it has a price though and KSA was able and willing to pay it.. a smart and wise move..considering that the Iran Iraq war costed around $1 trillion dollars in the 80s that translates to at least $3 to$4 trillion now a days.. Thus $400 billion is not much in comparison to a similar potential war it helps to prevent..
And there is much more deals behind the scenes, be it in the military field or the civilian one..

So, what milking are you talking about?

‘Shooting blanks’: Trump’s $110bn arms deal with Saudis mostly speculative – report
Published time: 9 Jun, 2017 02:43Edited time: 9 Jun, 2017 10:22

© Jonathan Ernst / Reuters

That $110 billion arms deal President Donald Trump signed with Saudi Arabia isn’t much of a deal at all, according to reports which found the majority of the agreement was based on memos, rather than contracts.
On May 20, Trump negotiated an arms deal with Riyadh. The State Department said it was worth nearly $110 billion to support “the long-term security of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region in the face of malign Iranian influence and Iranian related threat.”

Read more
Trump strikes arms deal with Saudis worth $350bn, $110bn to take effect immediately
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer hailed it the “largest single arms deal in US history.”

The State Department then released a general list of the weapons that were included in the deal. However, many experts have said that most of the arms sales had not been cleared by the State Department, Congress or even the industries themselves.

On Thursday, Defense News released a more detailed list of the weapons included in the deal, according to documents they obtained from the White House.

The ‘deal’ lists $84.8 billion under memos of intent (MOI) “to be offered at visit,” and $12.5 billion under letters of agreement (LOA), rather than contracts.

NPR also obtained a list of commercial deals from a White House spokeswoman and found that it added up to $267 billion, but said most of the deals were listed as “memoranda of understanding” (MOU).

“There is no $110 billion deal,” Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel wrote in blog post Monday.

“Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts,” Riedel said. “Even then the numbers don’t add up. It’s fake news.”

Defense News listed many of the weapons and systems in the deal, which they said were “potential” sales. One of the most expensive component of the ‘deal’ was for seven THAAD batteries, worth $13.5 billion. The estimated delivery time for the systems was between 2023 and 2026.

Riedel says although the Saudis have expressed interest in the systems for years, no contracts have been finalized. He also said that former President Barack Obama approved the sale in principle at a summit in 2015.

Most of the deals were negotiated by former President Barack Obama, according to Riedel. He calls the deal a “wish list” and claims the Saudis will not be able to pay for the $110 billion deal, since they are currently struggling to meet the payments on a 2012 arms deal, due to falling oil prices.

“What the Saudis and the administration did is put together a notional package of the Saudi wish list of possible deals and portray that as a deal,” Riedel said.

The list from Defense News also contains four new Lockheed Martin-built frigates, worth $6 billion. The estimated delivery time for the frigates is between 2025 and 2028.

However, Riedel said that the proposal for those frigates was first reported in 2015, and no contract has been signed. He also claims the frigate is a derivative of a vessel that the Navy uses which “doesn’t actually exist yet.”

The list from Defense News also contains 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters, but Riedel says that this deal is also “repackaged” from the Obama administration.

Trump said the deal created “tremendous investments in the United States,” according to The Hill. He also promised “jobs, jobs, jobs” to come as a result.

The Saudi government said that the 150 Black Hawk helicopters would be assembled locally, leading to about 450 jobs being created in the Kingdom. Not so, according to Arab News.

The list from Defense News also contains $4.46 billion for more than 100,000 air-to-ground munitions, $2 billion for “light close air support,” $2 billion for four additional aircraft “of a to-be-determined variety,” $6.65 billion for enhancements to Saudis’ Patriot anti-missile system and $800 million for two “Remote Sensing Satellites.”

 

[theman111]

What are you blabbering about? What is today KSA and Arabia as a whole is the cradle of Islam. The religious and cultural center of the Islamic world along with the Arab world as a whole. It's the religious, linguistic, ancestral, architectural and cultural bastion of the Arab world and the 500 + million Arabs. Let's forget Islamic history too and all the countless of personalities and dynasties from Arabia or with ancestral ties to Arabia that changed Islamic history and enriched it forever from scholars, scientists, poets, most well-known military generals, rulers let alone Prophets etc.

What you are saying makes as much sense as claiming that KSA is a irrelevant country today.



Show me something that Israel has developed from scratch without using previous known knowledge and without cooperating with anyone. Not only that those who developed such a thing must only have been educated in Israel and only cooperated with Israelis. You cannot mention even 1 such example. There is a limit to how many times you can reinvent the wheel. KSA has just started this process and is developing nicely. That's all that matters. You can ignore the evidence on the ground or the facts mentioned in the detailed article that Science published (one of the most respected magazines in their field) 1 year ago. Not my problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries
drones we started in 70s with no one help

 

[Saif al-Arab]

‘Shooting blanks’: Trump’s $110bn arms deal with Saudis mostly speculative – report
Published time: 9 Jun, 2017 02:43Edited time: 9 Jun, 2017 10:22

© Jonathan Ernst / Reuters

That $110 billion arms deal President Donald Trump signed with Saudi Arabia isn’t much of a deal at all, according to reports which found the majority of the agreement was based on memos, rather than contracts.
On May 20, Trump negotiated an arms deal with Riyadh. The State Department said it was worth nearly $110 billion to support “the long-term security of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region in the face of malign Iranian influence and Iranian related threat.”

Read more
Trump strikes arms deal with Saudis worth $350bn, $110bn to take effect immediately
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer hailed it the “largest single arms deal in US history.”

The State Department then released a general list of the weapons that were included in the deal. However, many experts have said that most of the arms sales had not been cleared by the State Department, Congress or even the industries themselves.

On Thursday, Defense News released a more detailed list of the weapons included in the deal, according to documents they obtained from the White House.

The ‘deal’ lists $84.8 billion under memos of intent (MOI) “to be offered at visit,” and $12.5 billion under letters of agreement (LOA), rather than contracts.

NPR also obtained a list of commercial deals from a White House spokeswoman and found that it added up to $267 billion, but said most of the deals were listed as “memoranda of understanding” (MOU).

“There is no $110 billion deal,” Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel wrote in blog post Monday.

“Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts,” Riedel said. “Even then the numbers don’t add up. It’s fake news.”

Defense News listed many of the weapons and systems in the deal, which they said were “potential” sales. One of the most expensive component of the ‘deal’ was for seven THAAD batteries, worth $13.5 billion. The estimated delivery time for the systems was between 2023 and 2026.

Riedel says although the Saudis have expressed interest in the systems for years, no contracts have been finalized. He also said that former President Barack Obama approved the sale in principle at a summit in 2015.

Most of the deals were negotiated by former President Barack Obama, according to Riedel. He calls the deal a “wish list” and claims the Saudis will not be able to pay for the $110 billion deal, since they are currently struggling to meet the payments on a 2012 arms deal, due to falling oil prices.

“What the Saudis and the administration did is put together a notional package of the Saudi wish list of possible deals and portray that as a deal,” Riedel said.

The list from Defense News also contains four new Lockheed Martin-built frigates, worth $6 billion. The estimated delivery time for the frigates is between 2025 and 2028.

However, Riedel said that the proposal for those frigates was first reported in 2015, and no contract has been signed. He also claims the frigate is a derivative of a vessel that the Navy uses which “doesn’t actually exist yet.”

The list from Defense News also contains 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters, but Riedel says that this deal is also “repackaged” from the Obama administration.

Trump said the deal created “tremendous investments in the United States,” according to The Hill. He also promised “jobs, jobs, jobs” to come as a result.

The Saudi government said that the 150 Black Hawk helicopters would be assembled locally, leading to about 450 jobs being created in the Kingdom. Not so, according to Arab News.

The list from Defense News also contains $4.46 billion for more than 100,000 air-to-ground munitions, $2 billion for “light close air support,” $2 billion for four additional aircraft “of a to-be-determined variety,” $6.65 billion for enhancements to Saudis’ Patriot anti-missile system and $800 million for two “Remote Sensing Satellites.”

Russia Today. Great source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries

You did quite clearly not understand what I wrote. BTW, I know that you are not a Israeli, but 2/3's of all Israelis are Arab Jews so your theory needs to be flushed down the toilet.

 

[theman111]

Russia Today. Great source.



You did quite clearly not understand what I wrote.

drones
spike missles

 

[Saif al-Arab]

drones

Drones were already invented. Those that were involved in Israel with this field had studied abroad and learnt their craft from foreigners. Hence your example does not work. Nice try though, false-flagger.

 

[theman111]

Drones were already invented. Those that were involved in Israel with this field had studied abroad and learnt their craft from foreigners. Hence your example does not work. Nice try though, false-flagger.

spike missles
however you can reverse engeeniring what you buy like alot of country doing like china iran

 

[Frogman]

spike missles
however you can reverse engeeniring what you buy like alot of country doing like china iran

How hard is it to understand that inventions and research/development is based on past endeavors by other people?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

How hard is it to understand that inventions and research/development is based on past endeavors by other people?

@theman111

BTW 2/3's of all Israelis are Arab Jews who are genetically identical (as confirmed by actual DNA) to Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Spaghetti Flying Monster believing Arabs so how do you explain the "theory" that you have propagandized a few times on this forum of Arabs not being capable when there are 1000's of Arab scientists in Western Europe alone? Or the fact that the same Arabs were a leading scientific power for almost 1000 years during Islam and in particular the Islamic Golden Age? Or that the oldest civilizations in the world are found in the Arab world and science itself was born in our lands? So basically quit bullshiting.

What is the problem in the Arab world is instability, corruption, nepotism and failed political systems. Not the ability of the people when given the right environment to succeed in. Which KSA's recent rise in the past 10 years ago (almost) is a clear example of. Our leaders started to invest in education and science and we already see the results within such a short time period. Much more is to come. Get that into your shallow and empty head once and for all or I will have to smash your skull online. Same goes with all the other foreign "geniuses" that have been polluting this thread with their nonsense.

 

[theman111]

How hard is it to understand that inventions and research/development is based on past endeavors by other people?

yes we get some help from usa on arrow and david sling but we was one of the pioneer on drones tech we sold to uk and to europe drone tech

@theman111

BTW 2/3's of all Israelis are Arab Jews who are genetically identical (as confirmed by actual DNA) to Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Spaghetti Flying Monster believing Arabs so how do you explain the "theory" that you have propagandized a few times on this forum of Arabs not being capable when there are 1000's of Arab scientists in Western Europe alone?

however even if you get tech you dont know what to do with that without
Scientific infrastructure look china they copy alot and leran fron that you can do it so

@theman111

BTW 2/3's of all Israelis are Arab Jews who are genetically identical (as confirmed by actual DNA) to Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Spaghetti Flying Monster believing Arabs so how do you explain the "theory" that you have propagandized a few times on this forum of Arabs not being capable when there are 1000's of Arab scientists in Western Europe alone? Or the fact that the same Arabs were a leading scientific power for almost 1000 years during Islam and in particular the Islamic Golden Age? Or that the oldest civilizations in the world are found in the Arab world and science itself was born in our lands? So basically quit bullshiting.

What is the problem in the Arab world is instability, corruption, nepotism and failed political systems. Not the ability of the people when given the right environment to succeed it. Get that into your shallow and empty head once and for all or I will have to smash your skull online. Same goes with all the other foreign "geniuses" that have been polluting this thread with their nonsense.

you have very
religious power control the country its not going to change and dictator regime that not help you to sucseed
i belive skilled people will go to better place where paying more like europe or usa

 

[Muhammed45]

And this is just a partial list!
There are also up to 12 Poseidon Maritime patrol and anti sub airplanes as well as Naval or land AEGIS.. and every sale has ToT as a requirement.. Where else can anyone get these Quality systems?..and with ToT, Quality and Quantity of this quality..the best of the two worlds.. it has a price though and KSA was able and willing to pay it.. a smart and wise move..considering that the Iran Iraq war costed around $1 trillion dollars in the 80s that translates to at least $3 to$4 trillion now a days.. Thus $400 billion is not much in comparison to a similar potential war it helps to prevent..
And there is much more deals behind the scenes, be it in the military field or the civilian one..

So, what milking are you talking about?

There is no ToT, you are wishful thinking.
The reason behind the deal was USA's support for Saudi monarchy against the rise of Arabian people. In fact a رشوه for Trump which ensures their illegal kingdom and delays their fall for some time.
The statement about Iran-Iraq war, you just related it to this deal. It's ok. Please enlighten me, you want Saudis to attack Iran in the future or you were talking about (non existing) Iranian threat to Arab monarchs, actually USA's excuse to milk these goons?